__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Honestly, feat-for-feat, the old hag beats the jawless man decisively. But I think it's fair to factor in holistic factors which put the two on a more even footing, or if anything gives Malak an edge. Then there's the SF Malak >>> Kun/Nadd quote, which, if taken at face value, puts him in another league entirely.
Malak has generally better accolades, is recognized as all time material among several mediums and his combative prowess is praised multiple times. Traya, while in possession of some very good feats, suffers from the isolation of her character from other mediums, which complicates any attempt to produce a roughly accurate comparison.
Registered: Jul 2014
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Agreed, actually. Scaling her from the post-prime Exile being ranked above ‘Thor, Satele and other Jedi yields strong results that are supported by her feats though.
We know that after killing Traya the Exile eclipsed her in power, so honestly I agree that The Exile > Traya > Malak. When you factor in Malak’s star forge amp though things go grey. I can think of many counters to the Malak > Kun quote, but I haven’t seen Ant attempt to defend it properly yet which means I’m not prepared to actually dismiss the quote out of hand.
For now then, I’m pretty happy assuming Malak edges the Exile out, leaving the ranking as SF!Malak > The Exile > Traya > Darth Malak.
@Nova: For the record, I disagree that holistic intent puts Malak above Traya. Malak’s position places him above most of the Sith in Revan’s empire, yes, but I don’t see Traya and Nihilus included in that. Especially given the time difference.
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Registered: Aug 2014
Location: The balance of the Force
I think it's pretty much concrete that Malachor V > Star Forge as a nexus. If we take into account Star Forge > Star Maps, then Trayus Core amped Traya herself may well be > Karness Muur.
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What are the reasons for Kreia hiding in the shadows when Malak ruled.
Not to mention, Kriea held Mandalorian Revan as the most powerful thing she had seen, and Malak Matched/surpassed that.
Obviously she is not referring to the exile, in terms of power. When she says Greatest. Chris's words and Revan's novel clearly suggest that it is not.
Registered: Aug 2014
Location: The balance of the Force
She specifically says that by beating her, she was her greatest student. Noting that only Revan prior to leaving the Jedi order was her student, he was no such thing after that. Prime Exile being > Mando Revan is hardly difficult to understand. The Exile's power, intellect and potential was the very reason Revan gave her over half of his forces and considered her as his greatest ally over Malak. Revan goes on to state that prime Meetra had far surpassed this potential.
She's a powerhouse, but it takes actually analysing her instead of taking her at face value to come to such a conclusion.
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Mhmm that's why she comments on his Revans mandolorians powers/command of the force is nothing she felt before, nah she is admitting clear inferiority to him.
Star Forge isn't a nexus, ffs. That machine feeds on dark side energies to work.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
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