so, now on to digi since i have to beat him in votes lol. you will basically be fighting the lords of magic and the lords of chaos, because in the past zatanna has used their powers, and can do so again. anything you conjure up, i can simply blow it up. and that suit of yours? i can simply turn it to oxygen or lightning. there goes your solar charge. after a while, i can just soffacate you or something.
Did she do all of that on a whim? Or was there some twist to her gaining all that power? Cuz having powers from the various lords would be different than actually BEING them. And the idea of overriding other magic is still a bit iffy.
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not sure if she did, but i have 24 hours of prep so i can do it. and she gained the power of the lords of order, and magic before. not sure what that means but she was as powerful as they were.
k, and it wil be very easy to overcome loki in magic. strange stalemated him even before strange became a sorcerer. according to wizard magazine, zatanna is on stranges level and probably surpasses it(according to wizard magazine) so if i am on/above stranges level now, and strange stalemated loki even before he was a sorcerer, then i have no problem overcoming you with magic. also with the lords of magic backing me up i am even more powerful, add 24 hours of prep to that and i can easily overcome you.
also wizard magazine wrote it and they always check their information. besides, zatanna has the power of the lords of magic and the power of the lords of order, in this fight she will be.
I'm not sure that's allowed, so even though it's for me I'd be inclined to ignore it for the moment. I'm not sure what the rule is on that...Evangel would have to clarify it. In any case, I doubt we can vote for ourselves...so if I were being smart I'd just say "I vote for ScarletSpider" or something like that (I'm not really voting by the way...it was just an example). So I appreciate the vote Nat, but I doubt it will be counted.
And back to you SF, overriding magic is still an incredibly iffy thing. I have reality control too...much like you, except Loki's creators decided to give him reasonable limits so he wouldn't always say he can do more than he actually can. Saying you can do anything and actually doing it are 2 different things. Hulk has "infinite" strength. Find me one occurence of strength that is indeed infinite. There are many other examples. I can control the matter within my body and have my own magical defenses up. To simply dismiss those and assume that Zatanna could bypass all of that with a thought is ridiculous. She isn't that powerful. She isn't Franklin Richards-level like you seem to be suggesting (oh, and this is a herald and below tourney by the way...if Zatanna really was this powerful I would have argued against her had I known more about her....but as it is, I don't think she's nearly as powerful as you suggest). And Strange, and probably Loki for that matter, would ruin her. And I'm still stronger, more elusive (I can teleport and phase with a thought...you have to say the words), and generally more in control of my amalgam.
i don't have to say anything to make it happen, check wonder woman # 174(i think). and yes, the person who created her stated that she can do anything through magic. ANYTHING. and i am not doing anything inside of your body, you are the one that keeps bringing it up. zatanna has the ability to mmanipulate magical energies in any form, that is how she is able to do anything. even before strange was a sorcerer, he beat loki. now someone who is on the same level as strange is at his best would be able to do the same. i can just manipulate the energy of your shield to turn it to lightning, or i can just thinkm about it turning to lightning and it should happen, or it might not. but considering zatanna is as powerful as the lords of order and the lords of magic, it should be no problem accomplishing this feat. also i could easily turn your suit to lightning, with noithing protecting your bidy the lightning would definitley hurt you. your charge would go down and you will weaken.
i'm guessing she can do something similar to god because she has done the same thing to the lords of order and the lords of magic to gain their power. and she probably could do the other thing, but i am pretty sure that is against the rules
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