Pak's canon says this. Others say Hulk and Banner are different people.
Therefore, Pak does not get to dictate how Hulk is handled under other writers, when one of his core retcons are that Banner and Hulk don't take turns sharing the same body.. They are literally one and the same.
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
So the scan you posted about Thor always holding back, that writer dictates Thor mentality for other writers? Or do we throw that up under the rug as well?
Hulk is like Thor's retarded little brother. He has crzy retard strength especially when he's angrier than usual. But crzy retard strength pales in comparison to a guy who is nearly as strong on avg, but has a howitzer that he keeps in his back pocket. No matter how retarded little bro is acting, big bro would never unload the howitzer on his little bro's head. Even though his little retarded bro who sometimes goes overboard due to anger issues is really pressing his buttons, big bro can't bring himself to put a hurtin on Warren. In the end he knows little bro can't help it.... Because he's retarded.
Big bro tends to unload his howitzer on really bad people... Like murderers or people who rob at gunpoint... Not really on people who can't help themselves... Like Warrens.
Did that writer grossly contradict decades of his history?
Like Pak did?
Your argument is that Banner "influences" Hulk. And you use Pak as your proof.
Pak said Hulk doesn't get influenced by Hulk at all. He IS Hulk. There is no "influence" here. Hulk IS Banner.
So Pak isn't the best evidence that Banner "influences" a Hulk who acts as a completely seperate entity.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Nah, Carv's just doing as Carv does: Ignoring context.
This isn't even about whether Hulk holds back anymore. It's about how his logic sucks.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
That's the thing, I dont think Thor is close to Hulk at all in strength. Hulk literally stood in one spot while two of Thor peers pounded on him and then he flexed them off. Thor at his highest couldnt achieve anything close to this. They are not close physically... sorry. Then you're mentioning tools Thor have forgetting that Hulk durability is freaking insane, then you have to add in that insane healing factor.
You're using a scan that is so old the picture is beginning to fade as evidence of Thor holding back and then you're using it for CURRENT THOR but neglecting a RECENT scan of Hulk always holding back. Who debates like this.
Also, Pak said banner always held back HULK powers. He didnt specify which Hulk, nut.
If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result, I guess I'm a nut.
And so is anyone who tries engaging you on context, logic, common sense...
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
I do think that Thor is more powerful than Hulk overall, but I have still always viewed the Hulk as the bigger threat to the Marvel universe. They are not that far apart strength and durability wise, if both go all out... but Hulk keeps growing and getting stronger.
To me Thor is just a very, very, very powerful character. The Hulk on the other hand is a force of nature. An omega level threat as stated by Reed Richards. I don't view Thor as an omega level threat. Nor someone like the Silver Surfer. While both characters can beat and have beaten the Hulk, when it boils down to life and death and given time... Hulk will come out on top, because surviving is what he does.
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