"try not to say this thing out of that board......or you would become the new jester of all comic boards
(that's for He Man stuff"
I agree the He-man stuff said by him was overrating. He-man can achieve pre crisis sperman feats by calling more power from the castle. That is true. But since Hulk has punched and sent pre-crisis Supes flying i dont consider none a "child" to the other.
Byyyyy theee powerrrrrr offf greeeyyyskuulllllll..!! - He-Man no doubt a very strong dude...but I think a major fact that some tend to overlook when classifying the Hulk's strength capacity/capability in relation to others is that Marvel created him specifically to be the strongest physical being in the MU (whether it is at base level or adrenaline amped) - I think its all well and good to debate how Thor, HeMan, Juggernaut etc could be stronger etc - but fact is none were created to be THE strongest - that honour i'm afraid goes to one only...the Hulk.. - and again I am not stating an opinion and I am stating a fact as presented by Marvel themselves.
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yes , talking about start strenght level.Hulk's dynamic strenght could surpass Thanos strenght in few seconds or Pad would not have said Hulk could beat Mangog who is light years to Thanos.And Pad would not have talked about Galactus like the ultimate strenght level for the hulk.
"yes , talking about start strenght level.Hulk's dynamic strenght could surpass Thanos strenght in few seconds or Pad"
It cant be otherwise pad wouldnt had said "He was on a class on its own"
And Thanos at start levels its still above Immortal Herc, or Thor, Or regular Hulk.
"aside cosmic beings, obviously."
"And Pad would not have talked about Galactus like the ultimate strenght level for the hulk."
But isent Galactus according to Marvel, a cosmic being?
"said Hulk could beat Mangog"
Here is one that no matter his opinion, continuity wont ever suport it. Mangog a guy that has fought and did more than held his own against Odin itself and Thor at the same time? As much of a nice though it is to have Hulk figthing it alone, its never going to happen.
Do know what the really strange thing is - all of the above is pretty irrrelevant when Marvel have presented the Hulk as "the strongest physical being in the Marvel Universe" - lol i'm sure this has some sort of meaning and relevance despite what one's opinion of his capabilities compared to others (in the SAME Marvel universe) may be...
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"Do know what the really strange thing is - all of the above is pretty irrrelevant when Marvel have presented the Hulk as "the strongest physical being in the Marvel Universe"
I dont see it as strange. Marvel didnt "created" Thor or heracles. They already existed before comics. Seems understandable that they give that pun to a hero they interely created. I know i would.
Thing is everyone has puns. Herc was also called "the strongest man of all time ". In an avengers comics Wasp said he was the "strongest avenger ever" Thor and hulk included. Puns are like that. puns. Being called like that is Hulks pun, like its Jugs pun not being hurt ever.
But they have been bested and hurt before. So i dont follow them. I certainly dont belive Heracles to be the strongest ever in any and all comickingdoms or whatever. Hes one. Just like Hulk is.
And its also irrevelant Hulk being called that way when he has been fought evenly, and defeat by both heroes and villains ( some of other dimensions ) that arent even cosmic level.
Puns mate. Theyr only comercial ways to make a character recgonizable.
hulk im afarisd olympian is above herc and also thor on a physiacl level due to the fact he has limitless strngth. hell he is above all on a physical level potentially due to his strength having no limit. also his healing is in the same department. hrc is a strong due, probably just below tor, but not in hulks class and thats a fact . sorry marvel have hulk as their no 1 and thats it im afraid . tor needs to use his teleporter and herc hasnt got any magic to use so there id no way really he can win
"hulk im afarisd olympian is above herc and also thor on a physiacl level due to the fact he has limitless strngth. hell he is above all on a physical level potentially due to his strength having no limit"
then why he never knocked out both of them?
"sorry marvel have hulk as their no 1 and thats it im afraid . tor needs to use his teleporter "
Stan Lee says Thor is number 1. And at Marvel he is the most powerful hero. And since Hulk never knocked him out or made him quit, how he is " much stronger " by your words?
"herc hasnt got any magic to use so there id no way really he can win"
Ill tell you how. A weapon above what adamantium is. Wrestling skills to use and immortality.
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No,Marvel considers the hulk like Dc considers Superman.See Marvel vs Dc.They put The hulk against Superman, not Thor.
Hulk never beat Thor with a clear victory and Thor never beat The Hulk with a clear victory just for the fans.Just not to disappoint fans.
Why against Thor Hulk's dynamic strenght did not work ? did you read Avengers vs Defenders ? (old crossover)
Just to avoid Thor's loss the writer wrote the hulk fighting without his increasing strenght(his dynamic strenght did not work)
In hulk - thor annual 2001 : hulk's dynamic strenght worked and The Hulk koied Thor in 3 blows.Thor admitted The hulk was stronger than him and than anyone else.Hulk did not admit anything about "power".
Sorry at Marvel the n°1 is the hulk, not to count that Thor is today dead.
another thing don't count Marvel vs Dc decided by votes, in Hulk vs Superman 1999, hulk had the edge in strenght and durability and he has been portrayed above Superman in more than an occasion; in avengers vs JLA Thor lost , Busiek said that behind the scenes they agreed about Superman >> Thor while in Hulk vs Superman no one beat no one....this proves again how Marvel still considers the hulk n°1
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[QUOTE=4350572]Originally posted by olympian
[B]"Do know what the really strange thing is - all of the above is pretty irrrelevant when Marvel have presented the Hulk as "the strongest physical being in the Marvel Universe"
I dont see it as strange. Marvel didnt "created" Thor or heracles. They already existed before comics. Seems understandable that they give that pun to a hero they interely created. I know i would.
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No your right Marvel didnt "create" Thor or Hercules - but then again if we were talking about the ACTUAL Thor and Hercules of myth and ancient religon we would be talking about invincible and immortal Gods, overlooking the world and generally performing "God-like" duties - not the kind of "Gods" that Marvel portrays as men who are able to be defeated by MORTAL men - so infact the charecters of Thor and Hercules in Marvel are their own creations as they bare only a resemblance to the charecters from whom they are based upon.
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- and again I am not stating an opinion and I am stating a fact as presented by Marvel themselves.
