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Tha C-Master
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None of that was mentioned in your canon guide, therefore none of what you're saying happened. I read it...it's never mentioned there at all. Quote where it said Bison fought and defeated the other 12 street fighters at the same time and Ryu beat him with one punch. Quote where it said Ryu dodged bullets. Quote where it said Bison can freeze time. in fact, quote where it even MENTIONS Bison in SF3...there's no reference to him whatsoever, much less him talking about "Evil Ryu's inner potentional". In fact, your canon guide doesn't even mention an "Evil Ryu", just a "killing intent" that was released against Sagat in SF1 and never used again. Quote me otherwise, from YOUR OWN GUIDE.

You can't, can you?


Yes. thats correct. There is no "evil ryu" per say, by japan, who made the characters. Instead there is a ryu with killing intent, the evil ryu was made in america. Its an alternate personality of ryu, and shin akuma is just akuma at 100%. Other than that ryu rejected his dark side, after akuma had wished to face him with it. He is now more powerful with out it. That is canon.

The "anakutsen" was rejected, because it was intended to kill your opponents in a fight, akuma saw this was no excuse, and that a fight should be no-holds-barred. He took up the art, and it consumed his soul.

Akuma is not a demon, its just a somewhat accurtate american description.


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Originally posted by Batman Wins
Ryu got hurt by shadowlaw thugs, so Batman takes him down.


I'm tired of these weak arguments, the ones we are arguing against are showing fanboyism. Bane beat batman, so can spiderman. and wolverine.

Is there anywone that batman can't beat? Godzilla, you think batman can beat him.

Shadowlaw thugs are not weak. Cammy, juli, and juni, are exteremely strong and trainind killers, with superhuman spped and agility. They can beat batman.


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Ryu looses To Spiderman and Batman. He Might win against Deathstroke and wolverine I dont know.


These arguments are weak. You are not saying anything to convince me here, and this shows that 90% of the people arguing this, no little of the characters, so why look silly and come and defend your character against ones you know little of?


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I show a proof of what's Wolverine is capable off and then you show me some Street Fighter ingame pictures. If you think Batman Wins arguement are weak, then why don't you look to yourself your just like him. If you really want to stay on topic then nevermind him and just continue to the topic.

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I show a proof of what's Wolverine is capable off and then you show me some Street Fighter ingame pictures. If you think Batman Wins arguement are weak, then why don't you look to yourself your just like him. If you really want to stay on topic then nevermind him and just continue to the topic.


Thats funny, because the raging demon is more fatal, than the one in the game, proving without a doubt that you don't know what you are talking about. You show a feat of the most inconsistent character in comic history. The problem is I know about wovlerine, and many on these forums don't.

You say my arguments are weak? Check the last few pages, and tell me who knows their information. You and batman wins don't know anything about the characters in question here, and you have the nerve to say my argument is weak?

Your argument is weak, because you posted a pic of wolverine taking a bullet, when I EXPLICITLY stated, that ryu at his best would destroy a mountain.

Your argument is weak because you use an example of Ryu getting beat by shadolaw thugs(who you don't even know), when wolverine has had problems with elecktra.

Your argument is weak because you shown no good reason why wolverine would get NEAR ryu to do sufficient damage.

Your argument is weak because you don't even counter any points, you state the same thing over and over again.

YOUR ARGUMENT IS ULTIMATLY WEAK, because, YOU.DONT.KNOW. THE . CHARACTERS. IN. QUESTION. period, you don't know the one on your own team, and thats pathetic. If you are goign to give a sufficient argument, on why they would win, how can you argue , much less give a debate, on characters yo don't even know?

What you should be doing,instead of making yourself look silly, is ask me the powers of the characters, or better yet research them. You haven't convinced a damn person on this board, besides fanboys why your team, would stand a chance in hell against RYU at his max. Tell me how they could beat Terry Bogard, a man taht defeated god of mars, a being of pure energy, and Terry doesn't hold a candle to ryu.

Next time instead of going into a debate, because the character has "wolverine" in the title, you should know what you are talking about, or ask, so you don't sound silly.

And as for batman wins, he's just bitter over our other debates, and this disucussion has little to do with batman.

So until you come here and know the characters, and read this post twice, you are considered a fanboy, and not worthy of a valid opinion. Why should I put efffort into telling a person something, who's ignorant of the characters in mention, Its like talking to a brick wall.

Case closed.


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You tell him oh wait I had the same opinion kinda no I didn't.
Sorry man Wolverine dies horrible C-Master has convinced me this guy could fight Classic Juggs and possibly win wolvie has no chance.


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I'm really not trying to be mean, but when people consistently ignore what is given to them without knowing the characters in question, its not fun at all.

Having a debate was good with you because you listened.


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You tell him oh wait I had the same opinion kinda no I didn't.
Sorry man Wolverine dies horrible C-Master has convinced me this guy could fight Classic Juggs and possibly win wolvie has no chance.


and ringout trion juggs, but possibly lose any other way.

How about onslaught versus trion juggs.


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I hear ya some people just don't except facts and try to take thim as such.


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You want to continue our debate, it was fun, only you and me there.


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Very well my good sir let us take this there


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To CorderaMitchell, You are really funny because I said many times that games are not canon such as crossovers and other stuff. Read the rules.

I know a few about Deathstroke here it is.

Slade Wilson is capable of using 90% of his brain capacity, making him a master tactician. He also has heightened strength, agility, stamina and reflexes. In addition, he has rapid-healing powers and is immortal, being able to return from the grave and regenerate himself. The right eye he lost has since been restored with an artificial eye, equipped with infrared vision. Slade also has years of combat training. He is above average in hand to hand combat and is skilled in use of all kinds of weaponry.

Is that enough for you.

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I'm not using games, alpha was a comics, sorry if I sounded harsh but that was already mentioned.


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I'm not angry at you, And I don't want to sound harsh either. But you are changing the topic, and you are blaming Batman Wins so you can have a scape goat.

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I'm not blaming anything, I've not been off topic, the reason it seems so is that, you haven't sufficient knowledge of the characters. The only one arguing this still is you, batman wins, and demi(who is questioning powers).

Explain to me how he wins against a full powered ryu, who destroys mountains, islands, and tidal waves.

I don't need a scapegoat, I'm not losing by ANY means, whatever you say is suspect, because you don't fully know the characters.


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Show me a proof of Ryu destroying mountains and tidal waves first before I believe you. And show me some evidence if Ryu really achieved Full Power or you're just making that up.(I need comic scans not ingame screenshots)

And were not talking about 1 round match here. You know that Wolverine and Deathstroke can live many many years and still can fight at their best. Unless you too doesn't know the background of this characters.

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Ryu have several abilities to help him out, Wolverine is strong but his abilities can be compared to what Cammy (she has enhanced strength, speed, reflexes, and is capable of lifting a 2000 pound man at the beginning of Street Fighter) is doing right now in the comics, he just have a healing factor. And the Street Fighter characters does have superspeed, if you remember in issue #6 when Ryu and Ken confronted Akuma, they tried to attack him but he move in a blink of an eye. Ryu in the comics is able to beat Wolverine, Deathstroke, and Spiderman; it won't be easy but he will be able to do it. And if Ryu give in to the Dark Hado all of his abilities will increase greatly. no expression


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Show me a proof of Ryu destroying mountains and tidal waves first before I believe you. And show me some evidence if Ryu really achieved Full Power or you're just making that up.(I need comic scans not ingame screenshots)

And were not talking about 1 round match here. You know that Wolverine and Deathstroke can live many many years and still can fight at their best. Unless you too doesn't know the background of this characters.


"can" live many years, no son. I long ago put up where akuma destroys ayers's rock, and you should research, because you are arguing a dead cause.

You are the only one here, the many years of experience mean little, as they are not much farther from what a human can achieve in most apects, they are called peak human, for a reason.

You've been done, I already said that a weaker showing would lose, how can a guy beat someone who destroys a mountain?

Do you believe wolverine can beat hulk and godzilla aswell? I bet you do.


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I've read through this entire thread just to see how many people were really aware of how powerful ALL the manga characters are.

They're ALL on a far different level of power than untrained humans and from a different universe entirely than marvels characters.

Mangas characters aquire superhuman abilities through intense training and manipulation of chi. Chi in the manga world is almost like an infinite supply of the force in the star wars world.

Guile could probably take Wolverine down and Chun li could kill all three. Look at what Batman CAN do and multiply those abilitys until he has enough power throw fireballs. By the time that he reached this level of mastery he could probably kill the Hulk with his abilities.

In the DBZ manga enough training and mastery of chi allows for the power of flight. I know that doesn't make sense but if kururin( A human) can fly and move fast enough as a child to be invisible, then Bruce Wayne could also learn to accomplish these feats. The problem is that this training is not readily available to any of the three posed to fight Ryu.

Ryu has undergone training that has put him faaaar above the level of normal and can manipulate chi with great ease and apply it with each strike. He has been capable of manifesting chi in the physical form since he first appeared on the scene and has done nothing but increase in power and abilities since then.

The amount of training that it would take to manifest chi in a physical form is enough training to make defeating Batman, or any mortal that has not received any form of training that is similar, a very simple task when considering the fact that all characters are performing at the best of their given abilities. At the best of his given abilities Mega Man is an extremely formidable opponent due to the difference in power between the manga universe and non manga universe.


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are we still going by games here? I raped the shit out of ryu AND akuma using wolverine alone.....end of story....lol...


sorry but I've seen ton of different mangas, comics, dojin's, cartoons, movies, ect etc of street fighter and I have to agree, that while ryu may be powerful at FULL POTENTIAL......he's NOT AT full potential...at wolverine's or spiderman's "full potential" their ability would be nearly uncomprehensible......that's just faulty logic to use the character at a power he hasn't attained yet....and GUILE?!?!?! the hell? the same guile who fought an semi-trained teenage ken for an entire night and almost lost? yeah...he has a really good chance...roll eyes (sarcastic)

oh wait no he doesn't vega almost killed him too...


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