I agree with pretty much all you said EvilCap, but this is the 3 vs Strange alone. Fate alone has a chance to beat Srtange. Combined with Zatanna and Witchie, Strange loses bad.
I also agree about the HoM thing as well. Dam you Marvel!
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<<no he dosent......i want to see any of them attack DEATH itself.....>>
dude, ANYONE could attack death! his attack did NOTHING. death got up and laughed at him. he knocked galactus down - again, so? g didn't even hit the ground. long loves strange, but i think he is a tad overrated here. these 3 would CERTAINLY beat him. (after all, enchantress and the executioner had him beat . . .)
and kg, he's got major energy control, matter manipulation, can create energy constructs a la green lantern. he's stronger than strange and can take a lot of punishment. over the years he has evolved into strange's counterpart in dc and is usually considered roughly strange's equal. he's even got and amulet and (last i checked) a creepy house with loads of books! a well written fate could definitely tackle strange alone and have a chance to win.
and no, he doesn't get power from demons - it all stems from his helmet, from nabu, a lord of order (which by the way seem to resemble in part the vishanti). fate's a force of balance, more than good though. i also think hector himself knows some basic magic stuff even without the helmet.
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well, i suppose if you could travel interdimensionally as strange does, and had his knowledge, prolly isn't that hard to find death. after all, can't be too many robed skeletons wandering around . . .
yeah but it takes balls to attack abstract beings....and strange is no fool....he dosent attack for no reason....he wouldnt attack them all if didnt believe there is a small chance he could actually win.....or casue damage.....
major energy control, matter manipulation, can create energy constructs -a la green lantern ---------------- you got any scans you can show me issue numbers
Stonger that Strange you mean in hand to hand?
i don't know much about Fate , but can he take on say JLA?
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And yet we still haven't figured out how the three of them would take Strange w/him having 10 hours of prep. If they met each other crossing the street, that's one thing. But you're giving the Sorceror Supreme a 10 hour head start? I don't care who they are, they're going down.
Fate can basically do the same things Strange can. I dont know every detaiol about him, but how Strange has cloak of levitation and eye of agamotto, Fate has the amulet of Anubis, cloak and helmet of Nabu.
I dont think Fate really uses the amulet because Nabu himself is treapped inside. Unless thats been changed.
From off the top of my head, i know Fate can cloak, jump dimentions, turn intangible, shoot magical bolts, super strength, invunerability, teleportation.
A main part of 'Sentinels of Magic' as well as "Lords of Order and Chaos"
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<<major energy control, matter manipulation, can create energy constructs -a la green lantern ---------------- you got any scans you can show me issue numbers>.
my dc books are at my brothers. i'll do some digging IF i ever get the damn things to my house! trust me, fate is a tough sum b!tch. he could take on the league, but i doubt he could beat them.
with prep, i still don't see strange winning. what can he do with prep? study spells? he knows most already. maybe with prep he puts 1, maybe 2 down before he falls (MAYBE!) but, imho he still can't win i don't think.
This wouldn't be a fight 3vs1 Strange with prep can invoke friggin millions of demons and hordes of oddities to fight with him.
Asking what Strange can do with prep is like asking what Doom can do with it, he can go from below herald to near omnipotence with enough prep.
He has protection spells(like the one he uses while he sleeps, it keeps him from being targeted by magical attacks) demon hordes under his control, illusions that can think for themselves, invoke eternity....the list goes on and on.
With prep, he can win this, not everytime but at most half at least 4/10.
About Zatanna, she is -potentially- very powerful, but right now, she's nothing. Her biggest feats aren't really her own feats, she used the power of others to do it...i.e the moon trick, the africa trick, the gotham city trick. And afterwards, she calapses in fatigue.
Zatanna may in the future be a magical powerhouse and able to caste spells without saying them, but now she can't. No matter what she says, obviously she can not do it very well if she keeps saying it backwards.
Remember when Slade punched her in the stomach? She couldn't do anything, why didn't she just caste him away? Cuz she can't yet.
Zatanna is dead the first second, so it'd be Fate and Wanda against an untouchable Strange and a few million demons. Hmmmmm....
Doesn't Fate lose his powers if his helmet comes off? Didn't Strange spank Wanda in the Avengers issue and mind wipe her while she struggled.
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