Is it my fault I don't consider "I don't know what Ragnos has done, therefore X is stronger" or "I am unsure if Sadow's star crushing technique translates into good dueling, therefore it doesn't" good debates?
No. Because it is logical fallacy. I don't care if Jesus himself tries to make that argument. It is a false statement, it does not necessarily correlate into fact.
If that's a "holier than thou nonsense" for holding an opinion that debating is free of logical fallacy, then so be it, I have a "holier than thou" attitude. You my friend, go off reputation, and obviously have no respect for the actual intracacies of debate.
Yes, he can have his opinion, but if he can't logically express it, I will point it out. That sounds very civil to me.
Well, since you seem to appreciate that kind of Jargon.
"Because Exar never ate nacho chips, ergo I say Sadow and Ragnos will win."
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Not many people willingly put themselves in my sights. You must be a slow one.
First off, you sling logical fallacy around like you're some master logician. Watch yourself there. Here's another fallacy term for your collection: Ad Hominem. Personal attack. A taboo in true logical debate. Hypocricy tends to color your argument bad, so I suggest you reconsider your offensive behavior and try and impress us with your personality and your levelheadedness, not your bared teeth and fancy lingo.
Now, I don't go off of reputation. I make a judgment, and I let it stand some scrutiny. If it stands, I keep it. If I rethink the situation or learn something which might change my viewpoint, I do. If I lived for reputation, Vader and Luke would be gods and Ragnos would be nothing. So try and get to knw me better before you go stabbing blindly.
Secondly, your approach is anything but civil. It may seem more mature in that you use "master logician" lingo, but you still need work. So I suggest you put that up your ass and piss off. Oops. Ad hominem.
No, you must be the slow one to realize I don't care what your reputation is. If you make an inaccurate statement, I WILL point you out for it.
Now, since when is pointing out logical fallacy ad hominem? If that was the case, every police officer on this world would be committing cardinal felonies. You made far more of an effort of ad hominem than I did, because you mentioned me being a "slow one". Speaking of hypocrisy, eh?
I make no effort to impress. Perhaps you need to reconsider. I make the effort to have a logical and reasonable debate. Is thiat too much to ask?
Yes, because someone who clearly sides with the individual that can't properly hold a logical argument is the "civil one". </sarcasm>
You have everyone of your terminus confused. This isn't some quid pro quo, I'm not trying to exchange my "master logician lingo" for your respect, or to prove my point. If your agument is "I don't know if Sadow's star crushing ability impacts his dueling, ergo it doesn't" I will point it out as the logical fallacy it is.
I also find it very funny you skip over the actual logical part of my argument, and then attack the thing I am hardly even pressing. In case you didn't realise, that is called the "Straw Man" missing the point logical fallacy.
Now, you can either continue to insist on getting educated in "master logician lingo", or you can actually DEBATE the issue presented before you. Your choice, and I really don't care. You're very entertaining. Now sit.
Registered: Feb 2005
Location: Hiding from zombies
Or you can kiss my ass. My decision to debate I reserve for people who aren't sarcastic pricks. And since that includes you, I guess we won't be having a civil debate. Piss off.
[QUOTE=4442081]Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
[B]You've been here for three days. Janus is like the only vet left. I've got a thousand words for you.
LMAO.
Yeah, because an individual has been here a certain number of days, he is clearly the better logician and debater. You're a joke.
Last edited by WanderingDroid on Jul 15th, 2005 at 11:38 PM
Anyway, Ragnos was this awsome super-bad dude. Shall I go through the whole routine about how powerful he was? OK.
He had extraordinary physical strength. This is a direct quote, more believable than the one about Tulak in my opinion.
He was a half breed. The fact that a half breed ever became a DLOS is amazing in itself. What makes this evem more amazing is that he ruled for over a hundred years. Thats special even for a purebread sith.
He was feared by Naga Sadow, even on his death bed. The fact that a guy who could destroy stars was afraid of him ever is crazy. That even when he was lying, dying, he was still feared by every Sith in the ENTIRE empire. HOLY CRAP!
Is the only Sith Lord I know of that definatly died of old age. Rare.
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