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APIECEOFME
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Has anyone seen this?

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/regulus.html

I don't know who the "well-placed source" on 28 August, 2005 was, but usually Lexicon is pretty reliable. But as they won't say who this source is, I'm not sure what to think


So the middle name is not on the link anymore. Lexicon took it off. It must have not been real. miffed I wonder if they did it on purpose to cause such a stir. confused

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Okay, So I couldn't be bothered to read every single post. I read somewhere on the first page someone saying that it couldn't be Regulus Black because he's dead. That's exact;y why it could be him. Didn't that person read the letter?

To The Dark Lord
I know I will be dead long before you read this

Okay, that's really all I needed to ilustrate my point. In my mind I know that it must be Regulus. Here I can tell you all why.
1. The initials fit (except for A but it would be possible that Regulus had a middle name and therefore was Regulus A. Black.... Could have been after Uncle Alphard... before he was no longer a spoken to memeber of the family for leaving gold to Sirius. Regulus Alphard Black. I think it works. )
2. In the letter it said that he would be dead before Voldemort would ever read it. Regulus is indeed dead. (Likely he was smart enough to realize that if you tried to quit working for Voldemort, you weren't going to get out alive. Probably decided to use the little bit of info that he had that basicallt nobody else knew to get a sort of revenge on Voldemort.)
3. In book 5 it said that Regulus got in very far with Voldemort and then panicked. If he was so far in, he could have discovered a few secrets that most, if not all, were not meant to know. (But this is one of my weeker pieces of evidence so ignore it if you wish)
4. (ah, now for my most incriminating piece of evidence) Alright. If a Black were to steal the locket where would he bring it? To the Noble and Most Ancient House of Black, 12 Grimmauld place. And if you read page 108 (when the gang and Sirius are going threw all sorts of stuff and trying to clean up) of book 5 you'll clearly notice it says ""a heavy locket that none of them could open" . Why would JK Rowling have bothered to mention something so simple if it didn't have some kind of purpose. It also is the shortest description of all of the things they find. Showing that she didn't want to draw your attention to it. I figure that that is the locket. (And of course, she probably knew that if she'd gone into more detail of the locket, like saying that it had a snake on it, it would have been a total give away.

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Originally posted by Notavailable
Okay, So I couldn't be bothered to read every single post. I read somewhere on the first page someone saying that it couldn't be Regulus Black because he's dead. That's exact;y why it could be him. Didn't that person read the letter?

To The Dark Lord
I know I will be dead long before you read this

Okay, that's really all I needed to ilustrate my point. In my mind I know that it must be Regulus. Here I can tell you all why.
1. The initials fit (except for A but it would be possible that Regulus had a middle name and therefore was Regulus A. Black.... Could have been after Uncle Alphard... before he was no longer a spoken to memeber of the family for leaving gold to Sirius. Regulus Alphard Black. I think it works. )
2. In the letter it said that he would be dead before Voldemort would ever read it. Regulus is indeed dead. (Likely he was smart enough to realize that if you tried to quit working for Voldemort, you weren't going to get out alive. Probably decided to use the little bit of info that he had that basicallt nobody else knew to get a sort of revenge on Voldemort.)
3. In book 5 it said that Regulus got in very far with Voldemort and then panicked. If he was so far in, he could have discovered a few secrets that most, if not all, were not meant to know. (But this is one of my weeker pieces of evidence so ignore it if you wish)
4. (ah, now for my most incriminating piece of evidence) Alright. If a Black were to steal the locket where would he bring it? To the Noble and Most Ancient House of Black, 12 Grimmauld place. And if you read page 108 (when the gang and Sirius are going threw all sorts of stuff and trying to clean up) of book 5 you'll clearly notice it says ""a heavy locket that none of them could open" . Why would JK Rowling have bothered to mention something so simple if it didn't have some kind of purpose. It also is the shortest description of all of the things they find. Showing that she didn't want to draw your attention to it. I figure that that is the locket. (And of course, she probably knew that if she'd gone into more detail of the locket, like saying that it had a snake on it, it would have been a total give away.


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i think that R.A.B. is three people, and R. is the first innitial of one person, A. is the first innitial of another, and B. is the first innitial of the last one. or maybe R.A.B. stands for something, like an association. like D.A. is Dumbledors Army.

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I don't think so. But your guess is just as good as mine at this point.

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Originally posted by the_ANTI
i think that R.A.B. is three people, and R. is the first innitial of one person, A. is the first innitial of another, and B. is the first innitial of the last one. or maybe R.A.B. stands for something, like an association. like D.A. is Dumbledors Army.


Doesn't seem very plausible at this point. erm


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i dont know who it is but i dont think its regulus ...im sure in one of the books sirius says that regulus wasnt the best of wizards not very powerful


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I personally think the Regalus Black theory is a sound one, that's what I came up with after reading 6. I don't think there will be too many great clues in Godric Hollow, that place to our knowledge didn't mean anything to Voldemort. I think the sorting hat and the sword are both safe from being horcruxes, how would Voldemort break into the school? Now we know 2 horcruxes are destroyed, one maybe, and there are 4 left. The ring and the diary are gone, no clues there. Voldemort will be the last one, the snake just before him. Voldemort keeps that snake awfully close to him. That leaves the cup, the unknown, and possibly the locket. The locket I'd bet is in the house and the only place to start searching for clues. If Regalus knew of one, he might know of others. And I think the key is Kreacher, he knows everything that goes on in that house. Besides if the locket was not destroyed, but hidden, and Regalus knew Voldemort was going to kill him, who would he want to find the locket? The only person he knew that wouldn't return it to the dark lord, his brother, the traitor, friend of Dumbledore and the Potters. As for Snape, he's evil, no turning back now. And I think Ron and Hermione should finally get together for good. Harry is already in love with Ginny.

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i agreee with u alot


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maybe it's raab himself? the jackass star? JKR is a well-known jackass fan.... she even wrote some jackass fanfic... mtv didn't like it because it was british



I still stand behind my theory which is the most logical.

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i thought it was regalus but no-one seems to agree


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Re: Speculation: Who is R.A.B. ????? (Spoiler Alert)

its sirius's brother

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the locket was the same one from the 5th book when they were clearing out Sirius's house there was a locket that no one could open

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i thought it was regalus but no-one seems to agree


I agree. happy


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Knowledge of how Horcruxes work?

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4. (ah, now for my most incriminating piece of evidence) Alright. If a Black were to steal the locket where would he bring it? To the Noble and Most Ancient House of Black, 12 Grimmauld place. And if you read page 108 (when the gang and Sirius are going threw all sorts of stuff and trying to clean up) of book 5 you'll clearly notice it says ""a heavy locket that none of them could open" . Why would JK Rowling have bothered to mention something so simple if it didn't have some kind of purpose. It also is the shortest description of all of the things they find. Showing that she didn't want to draw your attention to it. I figure that that is the locket. (And of course, she probably knew that if she'd gone into more detail of the locket, like saying that it had a snake on it, it would have been a total give away.


Hmm this is a very observant discovery..the locket now sound rather suspicious. But if it is 'saved' locked up in Grimmauld Place, then its no gd..cos surely Harry and gang would have forgotten about the locket..unless Harry or Hermione remembers it suddenly towards the end, like she always does.

I also want to draw the attention that only 3 known figures know of Horcruxes - Dumbledore, Voldemort and Slughorn, other than Harry,Hermione and Ron.

And so possibly only Dumbledore (or even Slughorn) knows that Voldemort had sliced up his souls thru the horcruxes. Dumbledore knew for he was the only one known to haf thought it thru. It is weak to suggest that his Death Eaters knew about it too..even though Voldemort did tell them that "he had gone further than anyone to achieve immortality" on his rebirthing in Book 4.

That's why i was rather taken aback when reading the book, to know that SOMEONE ELSE also did know about the nature of Voldemort's horcruxes. Regulus? If he's the one, then Rowling is really hiding a very big plot about him, which will only be revealed in Book 7, unbeknownst to even those who had talked about him in the previous books.


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Is it possible that R.A.B. could be more then one person though? When I first read HBP my first guess was Regulus and the locket at Black's house, as the name fit. But then I thought about how difficult it was for Dumbledore to get the fake, he wasn't able to do it alone, and without Harry's help who knows what might have happened. That and Regalus was mentioned so passingly and didn't sound very powerful. Ergo I then assumed he must have had help.

I also wonder about how, if it is Regulus, he found out. After all, it seems like this is Voldermort's greatest secret, it seems odd he just happened to share it with the one Death Eater who got cold feet (perhaps) and decided to destroy a bit of his soul when he has so many other fanatical, possibly more powerful followers. And if it is indeed he why did he do such a limited thing, why not take the info to DD or something, if he was able to get away long enough to snatch the locket and possibly work out how to deal with it surely he could have got the info to someone else...

And of course where is the locket now, if it is the one at the Black house it might have been thrown away, or stolen... unless Kreacher got it. Still, I think Regulus is still the most likely, though it will be interesting to see it is all explained.


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i'm going to stick tot he begining qestion and say R.A.B. might still be Regulas. he might of stole the locket before he died because you must consider voldemorts age he's at least 60 years old even if Regulas might have not died of natural causes. if he was brave enough for messin with voldemort he might have got himself killed by some one else

and harry might already have the locket and not even know it because in the order of the phoenix harry ron hermione clean sirius' house and find a locket no one can open.i think they were cleaning the attic.

and mundugus was stealing sirius' stuff so mundungus might have it now :dance

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oh yeah and i meant to do a smilie but it didn't work so ingnore
the :dance part

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i think slughorn is the key....who told slughorn about the horcruxes???it could be the only person other than dumbledore and the others....


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never thought of that.


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