Quick justification for the vote: I don't think the mirrors will happen, and other than brain-messing, some tentacles (both which I don't think will put Majestic out for the count), and a couple other random things, I'm a bit unsure what lp is doing for a "main attack" on Blackstrom.
Good arguments though...close fight. I retain the right to change my vote, but Khell gets it for now.
And get your votes in people (and arguments in for the participants). Nat said he'll probably close this Friday or Saturday, so only a day or two left.
Oh, justifying my vote... I doubt Khell could stop the Astral form, solely because magic has a tendency to bypass things that every other type of energy cannot. (Quasar's constructs, Surfer has no control over magic, etc) Also, there's definitely a difference between stuff like mental confusion and mental assault. Assaults are usually shrugged off by willpower, where stuff like confusion spells tend to be more insidious. Almost like the difference between Guerilla tactics and a massive assault.
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In his first series, a group of women, at least one of whom could effect peoples minds with magic, was keeping him docile... for all of a few moments. He wasn't being controlled, his mind was being muddled. Once he overcame that, she/they couldn't bring him back under control.
In his most recent series, Majestic has his body invaded by more than half a dozen Daemonites in their astral forms. They are straight up trying to take over his mind, and he rejects them almost immediately. The point is, he's dealt with both kinds of mental intrusion and fought them both off.
And Silver Surfer and Quasar had their inability to weakness specifically written in, while Majestic has been shown to repeatedly overcome several kinds of magical attacks. It's just how he was created.
Main Entry: ki·net·ic
Pronunciation: k&-'net-ik, kI-
Function: adjective
: of or relating to the motion of material bodies and the forces and energy associated therewith.
Astral form has no body, nothing material, no molecules to produce kinetic energy i.e nothing to drain.
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Uh, yeah, I know what kinetic means. The fact is, Maelstrom can and has stopped energy using his powers. You, being energy, are subject to being frozen.
Not happening.. Astral form is basically my soul flying around.
But to counter it anyway.
He'd first have no know I'm there, which you won't THEN you'd have to know exactly how to use a technique which takes losts of skill, which you don't have.
I have TWO seperate ways of detecting you, actually.
What technique are you talking about? The kinetic absorption? That's automatic, he is constantly drawing on low levels of kinetic energy, the only thing he has to do is decide how much to absorb. In this case, all of it. Maelstrom has absorbed the kinetic energy of electrons. Of a single neutron. He stole the kinetic energy of a cosmic being who was immune to ALL conventional forms off attack. Maelstrom just grabbed him by the neck, drained him dry, and took his place in the universe. Stopping your little astral form is NOT going to be a problem.
I meant that I dunno if Maelstrom's abilities would work on the astral form, even though he's drained energy before, because magic is simply NOT any type of energy... If he's used it against anything that's magic before, please do tell.
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I am going to vote for long pig.
Reasons: I think you guys have both given great arguements but Long Pig has me convinced he can screw woth Kheel's guy's mind.
Latest iddue of New Avengers. IM did a scan of a building he was about to walk into, and it identified everyone in there including Strange in astral form.
Wow. Of all the ways I thought I might be losing this debate, I didn't think it would be based on the mental attacks aspect. Oh well.
And yet, he's stopped other things with no molecules before Don't be sorry, it WILL work.
Do me a favor and don't tell me what I know. I'm actually convinced I CAN stop you, or I would have tried a different tactic.
The point is that he's stopped energy before. No matter what kind, your astral form IS energy, and I CAN stop it.
Yes, he was also a cosmic being immune to ALL conventional forms of harm. I'm thinking it would be a little harder to kill him than it would be to just STOP Strange.
Fortunately, you WILL make kinetic energy. And I won't be confused, because I will shrug off your little spells in moments.
Actually, I can do several things. Go back and reread if you're having trouble remembering.
It's just that you idea assumes that you can overcome his magical attacks. You have shown instances when he concentrated he overcame a few spells from low level people but that is it. From what you say he isn't immune and that he has to focus to overcome it. Strange is no slouch as Sorceror Upreme and the number of Magical Attacks he has to overcome means he could focus on all of them. But it is still close I could still change my vote.
Until Malestrom starts absorbing kinetic energy of magic souls and thought, your point isn't valid.
No molecules means no kinetic energy, I keep telling you this.
You keep saying "Well, he's controlled energy before".
What kind of energy? When? Where? How? The energy he absorbed CAME from kinetic motion, Astral form does not, can not create kinetic motion.
Who says Astral form is energy?
Magneto can't sense it, the Fantastic Four's energy sensors that protect their building can't sense it.....but Ironman can?
It's doubtful.
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