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EvilAngel
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Well his is yellow.

Ichigo's is blue pre-bankai so i think it fits.


But yeah, he uses GT on Byakuya. Looks like next week we'll be able to see who would win between then with a Bankai-less Byakuya.


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Getsuga Tensho is not inherently black, it is only black when Ichigo is using his Bankai.


DERP, I assumed GT was Kuroi GT.
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Well his is yellow.

Ichigo's is blue pre-bankai so i think it fits.


But yeah, he uses GT on Byakuya. Looks like next week we'll be able to see who would win between then with a Bankai-less Byakuya.


Doesn't mean it's GT though erm. Meh, never mind.

(Even the anime directors know that Senbonzakura Kageyoshi is too much for Ken )


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Originally posted by EvilAngel
Well his is yellow.

Ichigo's is blue pre-bankai so i think it fits.


But yeah, he uses GT on Byakuya. Looks like next week we'll be able to see who would win between then with a Bankai-less Byakuya.
We will see who in filler.

Because the notion that Byakuya without Bankai would beat Kenpachi is retarded.


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We will see who in filler.

Because the notion that Byakuya without Bankai would beat Kenpachi is retarded.


I know its filler.


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Well all GT is, is a blast of reiatsu released by Ichigo's sword. As stated by the boy-carrot top himself.


Well if it's any consolation Kenny's winning.

It was rather funny, Wabiske (or whatever Kira's sword is called) attacked him, it didn't even register on Kenny, he grabbed it and literally cut Wabiske in two. It was rather amusing smile


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True, but GT is specific to Zangetsu. GT-esque would have been more appropriate .

No shit? Wabisuke didn't register? PIS stick out tongue. He probably just struck him only once.

What's going on in this arc anyway? Why are Kira and Byakuya attacking him?


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True, but GT is specific to Zangetsu. GT-esque would have been more appropriate ninja.

No shit? Wabisuke didn't register? PIS stick out tongue. He probably just struck him only once.

What's going on in this arc anyway? Why are Kira and Byakuya attacking him?


Basically, a zanpactu called Muramasa is freeing the Zanpactu from shinigami control. Materialising them in the real world. Thus causing all shinigami to loose the ability to use their swords powers.

Early on in the confusion and chaos Byakuya is attacked by Senbon zakura, and presumed dead. However when he turns up again he's on the zanpactou side, surprising everyone.

Ichigo loses Zangetsu, but in doing so Muramasa free's Shirosaki. Who takes over Ichigo body and thoroughly kicks the crap out of Zangetsu. Eventually Ichigo breaks out of it. Muramasa enters Ichigo's soul and forces inner Shirosaki into a fight. Who proceeds to own him again until Muramasa uses his zanpaktou's power of tentacle rape (you have no idea how much i'm not kidding). Ichigo saves Shirosaki and forces Muramasa out of his soul.

In which time Zangetsu is all better now and Ichigo and him fight, But Ichigo wins. Revealing if you kill your zanpactou you get it's powers back. If someone else kills it, apparently you loose them forever. But since Byakuya killed Rukia's on a dare(again, not kidding) i'm guessing this'll be disproved.

There's allot of fighting inbetween with Renji and Hisage(the guy with 69 on his face) aswell as a few other things, then Kenpachi turns up, and scares all of the Zanpaktou. He blasts them all away so he could solo fight Byakuya

That pretty much sums it up until now.


So when i say Wabiske hits Kenny i mean Wabiske.


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No shit? Wabisuke didn't register? PIS stick out tongue. He probably just struck him only once.
Considering Kenpachi's physical strength it is not really surprising.


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That's just your opinion. I know plenty of people who quite like Kukaku's and Ulq's English voices. I
I personally prefer Hichigo in English to Japanese as the Japanese voice just annoys me.


Indeed. It's my opinion that the voice acting is low quality and sucks. Much better "acting" exists in American dubs.

It's hard for me to describe, but, you can tell when someone is great at acting and when someone is acting. Here's the difference: you don't pay attention to the fact that they are acting and reciting lines; you are lost in the characters and story.


For instance, Philip Seymour Hoffman is an absurdly good actor: both voice and film. You can't tell that he's reciting lines for a film. However, those voice actors are so horrible that it's on level with high school students doing a play. Sure, we can relegate this all to "opinion" but, there is a social factor here.

I assure you that the majority of people would agree that the voice acting sucks in the English Dub.

Sure, you can call it argumentum ad populum, but, sometimes, what the majority says is the only way to measure a subjective matter.




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Um...that's not sass. At all. It's condescension. He's not being impudent or unnecessarily argumentative. He's simply abusing Orihime's kind nature.
And saying it was homosexual is just completely unwarranted. He sounds nothing like a gay person.



1. It is sass.

2. There is also condescension.

3. He is being controlling and obdurate, for sure.

4. Yes, he talks with a slight stereotypical homosexual's voice inflection. You need to get out more.





Also, Quincy: I didn't say or imply that Uryuu absords the spiritrons into himself, I referred only to his weapon. If he kept on going, he'd eventually explode as it's converted into energy.


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Also, Quincy: I didn't say or imply that Uryuu absords the spiritrons into himself, I referred only to his weapon. If he kept on going, he'd eventually explode as it's converted into energy.



....

What?


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....

What?


You said this:


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As for Dadudemon's strange assessment that Ishida would "blow up" if he absorbed to much energy, that is rather ridiculous...

A Quincy does not fight with the energy inside of him - he fights with the energy outside. If you watch, when Final Form Uryu summons his bow, the intense spirit energy manifests in front of his fingers. He doesn't summon it from inside of his own body/energy reserves.


To which I said this:

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Also, Quincy: I didn't say or imply that Uryuu absords the spiritrons into himself, I referred only to his weapon. If he kept on going, he'd eventually explode as it's converted into energy.



I said that because, earlier before you even posted your initial reply to me, I said this:

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If his equipment also absorbs rieryoku as well, then my post about him getting overloaded by the violent explosions from Ulq or Hallow form 2 Ichigo holds true. He wouldn't be able to absorb it fast enough. Not even close.





So, because of seagreen, your darkblue was invalid which is why I posted darkred in reply to your darkblue.


Does this explain your "what" confusion?


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The term "spiritrons" is probably what threw him off.

But really, was Ishida ever shown to be able to absorb spirit particles indefinately? I was under the impression that he simply used them to fuel his Final Form, and they took form on his back as that blade-wing thingy.


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Appreciate the color coding.

But you didn't answer what I was hoping for.

"What?" do you mean when you say he would explode? His weapons would explode? He himself would blow up? What does that mean?


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Considering Kenpachi's physical strength it is not really surprising.


I know.
Though even he'd bow eventually, if struck long enough, which is unlikely.

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The term "spiritrons" is probably what threw him off.

But really, was Ishida ever shown to be able to absorb spirit particles indefinately? I was under the impression that he simply used them to fuel his Final Form, and they took form on his back as that blade-wing thingy.


Most likely. He can keep collecting them indefinitely, seeing as he can collect reishi indefinitely while 'normal'; provided he uses some of it up in the process. Eventually, he's going to run out of places to store the reishi (another wing, where ever).

Meh, but to answer your question, it wasn't shown. He only collected Reishi when he first took the form.


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Damn Kubo, I wish he'd show the form again. Ryuuken would be an utter beast if he used the form, though he's already a beast.

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Originally posted by EvilAngel
Basically, a zanpactu called Muramasa is freeing the Zanpactu from shinigami control. Materialising them in the real world. Thus causing all shinigami to loose the ability to use their swords powers.

Early on in the confusion and chaos Byakuya is attacked by Senbon zakura, and presumed dead. However when he turns up again he's on the zanpactou side, surprising everyone.

Ichigo loses Zangetsu, but in doing so Muramasa free's Shirosaki. Who takes over Ichigo body and thoroughly kicks the crap out of Zangetsu. Eventually Ichigo breaks out of it. Muramasa enters Ichigo's soul and forces inner Shirosaki into a fight. Who proceeds to own him again until Muramasa uses his zanpaktou's power of tentacle rape (you have no idea how much i'm not kidding). Ichigo saves Shirosaki and forces Muramasa out of his soul.

In which time Zangetsu is all better now and Ichigo and him fight, But Ichigo wins. Revealing if you kill your zanpactou you get it's powers back. If someone else kills it, apparently you loose them forever. But since Byakuya killed Rukia's on a dare(again, not kidding) i'm guessing this'll be disproved.

There's allot of fighting inbetween with Renji and Hisage(the guy with 69 on his face) aswell as a few other things, then Kenpachi turns up, and scares all of the Zanpaktou. He blasts them all away so he could solo fight Byakuya

That pretty much sums it up until now.


So when i say Wabiske hits Kenny i mean Wabiske.


Interesting. I wonder what would happen if Kenpachi's sword fell to Muramasa. Would the spirit materialize? Or is there no spirit at all. Most likely the former. If so, we'd see what Kenpachi's sword is truly capable of, even though it's filler.

I think I should watch this arc, at least I'd get to see the spirits of the Zanpakutou, seeing as you've spoiled the most of the plot for me stick out tongue.

I feel bad for making you type so much >__>.


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Appreciate the color coding.


You're welcome. This message board shit gets confusing and it's hard to keep track of who said what and what for. I got the idea from Bardock42.

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But you didn't answer what I was hoping for.

"What?" do you mean when you say he would explode? His weapons would explode? He himself would blow up? What does that mean?


Yes, to all of the above.

His weapon thingie would explode and blow up The Quincy with it.

Seagreen actually answered that for you...almost.


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You're welcome. This message board shit gets confusing and it's hard to keep track of who said what and what for. I got the idea from Bardock42.



Yes, to all of the above.

His weapon thingie would explode and blow up The Quincy with it.

Seagreen actually answered that for you...almost.


I was being utterly sarcastic.

My question still stands.

What the **** are you talking about.

WHY would ishida blow up? WHY would his weapons blow up? What the hell makes you say that?


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I was being utterly sarcastic.

My question still stands.

What the **** are you talking about.

WHY would ishida blow up? WHY would his weapons blow up? What the hell makes you say that?


I explained all of that already.


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Is this your "explanation?"

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wouldn't his storage thingie run out of space against someone as monstrous as Kenpachi? Kenpachi has so much that it leaks out and half is captured by his patch...or something. Kenpachi could just pull a Revenge of Cooler type of scenario where the 2 super saiyans overloaded his energy capacity. His little quincy bow thingie wouuld have to have a finite limit or else it would create a black hole.

Think of it this way: Susanoo does not have infiinite protection. There is a limit. We saw a rib crack on a form that wasn't fully complete. We can't say that susanoo can withstand an infinite amount of blunt force, as that would be incorrect. Same with the Quincy's storage of spirit energy: it will have a limit. If he didn't use his energy, he'd eventually explode.


Revenge of Cooler argument does not stand. It makes no sense, as Cooler's energy absorption is different than Ishida's. I'll reiterate - Ishida does not absorb energy - and neither does his bow. In his final form, the energy is gathered behind him, and forms that blue light quiver.

Also, you seem to think that we know all of the capabilities of the final form. What makes you think so? He used it for like, what, 3 minutes? And in all that time, all he did was shoot basic arrows. All of the Soul Society surroundings were being broken down into spirit particles at a constant beat, and it was being stored as a blue light wing thing - which acted as a quiver.

Are you saying that this wing absolutely has a limit? Despite the fact that it is not a solid object, but simple spirit energy? Who's to say it wouldn't just grow?

Also, Susanoo? I fail to see any merit to this. How does Sasuke's super illusion thing from NARUTO have ANYTHING to do with Ishida's final form in BLEACH?


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Ishida does not absorb energy - and neither does his bow. In his final form, the energy is gathered behind him, and forms that blue light quiver.

Are you saying that this wing absolutely has a limit? Despite the fact that it is not a solid object, but simple spirit energy? Who's to say it wouldn't just grow?



Ahh, now I see, I was also wrong in saying that his weapon absorbed energy in reply to one of dadudemon's posts >__>.
Though my point stands; I still think he could deconstruct Shinigami, if he needed to (unless you care to pwn me again?)

Though dude, let's be honest, the wing will eventually have a limit if he keeps on deconstructing and collecting. He'll simply move onto another wing. (~ 6 wings, Uryu the Quincy Seraph)

Hitting that limit is another thing though, as he'll most likely use the accumulated energy for arrows (I think his limit could be beyond 1200 in this form), Ginto, Seele Schneiders, Hirenkyaku and even different bows perhaps.


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