Quasars flight ability allows him to go faster than light without worrying about the speed force.... either way, Thordon is faster and you've shown virtually no usage of speed abilities in earlier prep our earlier rounds..... Thordon has made much more use of speed than.... (what was the name again? )
and i'll use the hammer to locate it and go destroy it while you return in your Astral form
wont get to it? because of the time compression? all that does is slow down the attack a little..... it'll still hit it's immobile target, Magical shields cannot stop it.... once it's fired it's only a matter of time until impact (and not much time at that)
i have the additional intersteller travel speed of Quasar and much more practice with speed abilities
and each one of them will be wasted by a simple quantum construct attack... but as there're a ton of guys attacking i'll go straight for the guy not moving behind the shield
i posted it in the last round..... he places a Quantum layering around the hammer's head before throwing... thus enabling it to pass through any magical shielding
those were merely an example.... and the point is that they carve through magical constructions shields, binding, whatever....
the very nature of it being time "compression" means that it doesn't stop time.... just slow it down.... it's easier to make a clock look stopped than an energy wave moving at light speeds.... or beyond
but Quasar doesn't
if the hammer delivers that ability then i get it due to possessing the hammer
how about i go for the one that looks like Absorbing Man... instead of all the mental images of Strange
How is entering the speed force dimension different than the Astral Plane?
In any case, I think Quasar's beyond-light deals with that efficiently.
I'm going out of town for a couple days so I have to vote now. My vote is Scoobless (making it 2-2 if I counted correctly). Explanation: LP's used Strange brilliantly, and he may have enough to win it, but I honestly think just Thor vs. Strange would be a good fight, and Scoob has pimped out Thor a bit better than "Big Sexy" (that's his name, right?). I may actually be rooting for LP (nothing against Scoob, it's just easier to root against a defending champ) but I have to vote objectively...so my vote goes to Scoob.
LP, do you have a second tactic? Your first post said you did, but so far you've stuck to the first one... I'll vote for Scoobless right now. Speed, strength, and a convenient way to bypass the shields, plus the fact that your body is made into an easy target by being immobile.
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he can see it it or detect it (or anything else) through the quantum bands and Mjolnir.... hell, just the quantum bands.... all he has to do is scan the EM spectrum and look for a blank spot that's being blocked by your body and shield
My mistake, what I meant is that he won me over in what is in the rebuttle, not due to the length of it. With a body of iron, Dr. Strange's magic, and the speed of the flash, I see him taking the win more often than not ( not that scoobless can't win).
I guess this is all kind of moot seeing as how my vote doesn't count, but I felt I should clear up that confusion.
And sorry about the vote not counting...but rules are rules. There's another tourney in the works that you'll be able to vote in (or possibly be in too).
Astral form doesn't leave the battle field. Going into another Dimension does.
Quasar can't reach lightspeed except in space, so unless that's where we are, he ain't reaching lightspeed.
Quasar can't see or even ditect an Astral form, and he has no control over the hammer, what exactly can he do other than be blasted from a being he can't see?
Here is the one of the many times Strange has hid from sensors while in Astral form.
This time he's in the Avengers mansion attempting to steal the Darkhold.
no, it'll only slow it down a little.... and it'll still hit (just might take a second or two rather than a microsecond)
he never had the reaction speed for it before.... but he clearly can go that fast
it's a very simple attack.... quantum layer over the hammer... which will rip a hole in the shield allowing the hammer to pass with no loss of momentum..... it may not be "true" as in - it's never been done before....(as the character doesn't actually exist in Marvel) doesn't mean it wont work
see above
the FAN site....
"Everything There Is To Know About Quasar's Quantum-Bands
by Mark Gruenwald "
i can work Mjolnir, i can detect magic and i don't need to see the astral form
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here's a little pic i made of both Namor and Iron Man detecting Strange in Astral form
it also shows Strange being knocked out when he strains himself.... and commenting to the effect that he's a lot weaker when in his astral form.... all the spells you have him performing and keeping up simultaneously will put a hell of a strain on him..... i seriously doubt he could maintain the workload you've placed on him without his physical bodies energies to back him up... and even then he'd be struggling
it also shows Namor snapping the bands of Cyttorak.... if he can do it Thordon definitely can
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Nope.
You still haven't proved a single way of how.
Possibly, too bad you won't know where it's at.
That isn't how it works, and you know it.
Quantum and magic pass through each other, they don't rip holes.
No you can't.
And yes you do.
Remember, just because you say something doesn't make it true, no matter how hard you want to believe it.
Wow, you found a pic where someone sees Strange when he wills himself to be seen. Good one. It has nothing to do with your argument.
I have scans of Strange saying "No one can see me unless I will it so." In the same book he has to will himself visible to a sorcerer who is almost as good as the ancient one.
So, sorry you're wrong....again.
You didn't seem to show the rest....I wonder why? hmmm....cuz Strange was in Namors mind at the time and it caused a psychic backlash knocking Strange out. Namor didn't break them until Strange was K.O'd.
Anyways, Thordon wouldn't be of sound enough mind to even try to break them.
considering your argument was "no you wont" i thought "yes i will" was a valid counterpoint....
i already posted a couple of viable ways for Thordon to see/detect your crystal thingy 1) Mjolnir detects magic, 2)it'll block parts of the EM spectrum and Quasar will know the shape of whatever's there
going by the site i provided links for it says Quasar will be "able to slam an energy construct through a mystical shield of Seraphim, for instance"
it doesn't say pass through, "slamming" it through sounds a lot like it'll rip it apart
yes i can (use Mjolnir).
and no i don't (need to see your astral form).... though if Iron Man's sensors can detect it from a distance so can Quasar
same goes for you..... but i'm getting my info from a Marvel writer
he also seemed very surprised that Namor could detect his astral form at all .... meaning that he isn't completely invisible when he thinks he is.
the other point was that technology could detect him.... not just people.... it has to do with the part where you believe that he can't be seen
to quote yourself "Remember, just because you say something doesn't make it true, no matter how hard you want to believe it."
or do believe everything comic characters say about themselves?
because , again, he was surprised that Namor could see him
Strange isn't infallible
actually it looked a lot like Namor breaking them is what caused Strange to be knocked out..... seeing as how the breaking occurs before the passing out
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