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Sorry i didn't know, i can admit when im wrong, you won't happen to know if they still sell those comics would you? [/B][/QUOTE]
it's all good....they have some of his older stuff in book stores in the graphic novel sections...that's your best bet...unless you have thousands upon thousands of dollars to blow on the originals...
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
I'm not sure what' you're reffering to...it could be...usually when somethings in graphic novel form it will come out in several variations...
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
I think Burton would have done a fabulous job and it would have been great to have Keaton return for it...which he would have! I remember they were talking about Robin Williams as the Riddler before the studio wanted to go lighter with the film and Burton backed out..then Keaton followed.
The comics always were dark..except for the stuff in the 50's and sixties...then came the good stuff of the 70's through what we have now. The 70'2 finally brought back the darkness and adult stuff. TG! i love how adult the comics are now! That kiddie stuff just sucked.
Here's an old Bats page..how does this resemble anything for the 60's tv show?....That show was basically done as a send up like Airplane and Scary Movie...in that kind of vain. It was meant to be a joke on comics..not a serious Batman show.
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The 60's Batman wasn't the first......there were the 40's serials that came first, where Batman used a gun and the like. The costume is kind of dorky..but hey..it was the 40's!
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If Burton would direct batman forever it would be as bad as it is directed by Schumacher. The batman franchise was dead since the first movie, casting the short, unmuscular, almost bald, unnatractive and bad figher michael keaton for the role of batman and bruce wayne. I cant believe in a movie with a 5'7 or 5'8 guy with a wig trying to be a play boy. Plus, his strange behaving as bruce, forgeting the places in his own houses or being a bubling idiot with women was totally stupid. Same with batman returns. Plus, not origin, not enought development in batman character, the villains being the main characters, a stupid and retarded freak penguin, the total waste of gordon, etc. Batman forever and batman and robin were pretty bad too, but at least, kilmer looked more as bruce wayne than keaton and clooney. But at least, Nolan did a great job casting Christan Bale, who not only looks the part, he plays the part very well and is a great actor. Batman begins is a great movie, the other four movies were crap.
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As for the Villains being the main characters in Returns and 89...sure...but they still were goo movies.,...not allöl that exact but at least good while Batman and Robin sucked...I can't really place Forever...I don't hate it....don't love it either though......
He didn't forget the places in his house. He was just trying to make Vicki feel more comfortable by making her laugh(though Batman doesn't have a sense of humor, he didn't go over the top like in B&R and Forever though)
Man , you are wrong. See batman returns, he forget the bat cave entry. See his conversations with viky or with seline, he looks a total goofy idiot in those scenes. I dont know, but keaton and burtond did of bruce wayne some kind of abstedminded and goofy fool, insecure with women. What is the opposite of the character.
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actually thats a laughable and poor excuse from him he always comes up with.The batman from the comics and the batman from batman begins could have easily beat that guy blindfolded.its not like he broke two legs or anything like that.this is a martail arts expert,who was hardly seriously injured from that fall,that was inexcusable on burton and the screenwriters part.
Micheal Keaton would have done it if Tim Burton did it so they would not have casted another actor. Val Kilmer gave a wooden portrayal as Bruce Wayne unlike Micheal Keaton who was a very unlikely casting choice but ended up being the best Batman of all. If you have a beef with it my only conclusion is that you existed some time before the movie came out and was a big fan of the comics and was pissed off that Micheal Keaton was casted that Batman and either did not see or did not like, somehow, the dark teaser they released to covince fans of the dark kight that Batman was going to be portrayed well way back in 1988. Micheal Keaton was a good Batman. Get over it. Now Val Kilmer, in the movie you liked was a wooden sex clown in black leather that Joel Schumacher hired because he was "Younger" and looked "Sexy". I hear girls saying all the time "I LOVE BAMTAN FOREVER" and I'm like "Why" and they like "I DONT KNOW BUT I DID". I am not into bat nipples I am into a good or at least a consistant trilogy. George Clooney sucked the most out of every Batman in the world but it is not his fault.
Agreed, Bardock42. Val Kilmer and George Clooney were far worse choices. Just stick with Micheal Keaton and Tim Burton. The REAL dynamic duo.
I concur.
Then watch the Batman of the 1970's and leave it out of a trilogy-that-never-was. That is what fans feared the most but Tim Burton was their savior. Well the REAL savior was Frank Miller. But still.
You can not change the actor in the trilogy or it is sloppy and the movies do not feel like they are linked together. Micheal Keaton is able to fit any role from comedy to the darkest of knights and he proved that in Batman and Batman Returns. Joel Schumacher was sent by Satan to **** everything up and he succeeded. Robin is the start of a long line of ad ons that do not really matter. The original purpose of the first Batman film was to go back to the dark roots of Batman and that is how it should have ended if Tim Burton directed Batman Forever. With no Robin just like you said. The way it should have been. If Robin is going to be with Batman he has to be there from the start and be a consistant character from there on out to the final shot in the trilogy. If he is not in the first one do not bother putting him in the second one and you should DEFINITELY not put him in the third since it is far too late by then. How do you know he would make Batman a wuss? You do not have a time machine to go back to the past and alter the events of the space time continuum to see if Tim Burton would have done a better job directing Batman Forever. Batman KILLED in the first Batman movies and he was ****ing awesome. Tim Burton would have went all out with Batman Forever if the Joel Schumacher plague did not come and wreck everything. Batman fought right out in the open dramatically in Batman Forever and people were CHEERING for him when he is supposed to be at odds with society and the police except for commissioner Gordon in some flashy fakeout hollywood neon fight as opposed to the far superior and mythological fights he would use in secret and to save a city of peoples that have fallen into total chaos in times of emergency. Micheal Keaton is not short, half bald, or out of shape. George Clooney sucks but my mommy likes him (**** you). I do not know who the **** Abbot and Costello is but The Lone Ranger had his own movie without Tonto and he did damned good, too. Batman would have too if there was no Robin, no bat bimbo, no, Joel Schumacher. Just Micheal Keaton and Tim Burton. ****ing awesome.
I never wanted there to be a Batman & Robin, *******. Micheal Keaton was old and experienced with alot of training just like the real Batman unlike that ****head Val Kilmer. Danny Devito was a great actor as the Penguin and very new and convincing in the movie. Nerds get mad when people **** with the Penguins character and hate the Penguins character because it ****ing sucks. Tim Burton did something different like he did with the Joker and everyone accepted it. So you're saying...you would rather have a movie with a braindead actor as opposed to be willing to sacrifice a scene for the integrity of the overall movie? Good thing Tim Burton directed the first two films and not you.
Either way you are a *****. You are bitching about either way. Tim Burton was able to focus on the tradegdy of The Penguin and he would be able to do the same for Two Face and/or Scarecrow. The Riddler seems to belong in the 1966 Batman TV show the more I think about it.
Yo, I liked Burt Ward. He enjoyed the role just as much as Adam West. They are going to be called homosexual either way. It is the nature of man to acuse two men who spend alot of time together a gay butt ****er. That's life. I will never hear in my life "This is good and new in something old". So I am not surprised some dorks were arguing over The Penguin's new origin. It is like the Joker and Catwoman but it is still cool. None of Tim Burton's characters were over the top. They were subtle when they needed to be and dramatic at the climax. I felt so sorry for The Penguin when I saw him die for the first time when I was two, I still can recall.
THEY WAS THERE LONGER THAN THE BATMANS WAS!
Batman Forever is FAR off from the original comics and the first two are FAR closer to the original comics because they were dark. You say "He did not want to make them look like the rest". That is because movies were ripping off of the original Batman's Gotham City. It was the original not the rest. Psycho frezies do not exist in neon colors because Gotham City has something called a Police Force but there are some things they cannot handle and alot are corrupt and it is very complex but Joel Schumacher completely tossed this aside for two hours of stories nonsense as opposed to realism in a realistic enviornment like the Gotham City from the first two Batman films. Dark and serious was what the original trilogy was supposed to be. All the damn time. There is intellegent humor but if you spell "Psycho" as "Sico" you would not be able to spot it. They could have done a funny Batman series of movies but that has been done before and the fans did not want it. The Visa part killed, no, shattered the darkness that was once Batman. Even George Clooney regrets having done the part and says he was told he was doing an ice show as opposed to a dark, complex, and realistic movie. Jim Carey's The Ridler was an Ace Ventura wannabe and Frank Gorshin, rest in peace, was the best The Riddler there was or ever will be. You basically describe Two Face as some drunk guy. *****. EWW. Two Face is better than that. Micheal Keaton looks DAMN good! If you like Val Kilmer and his butt shots so much why don't you go **** him. I don't know who...you are...but **** you too.
Wow. Your little cousin must be ****ing retarded. The exact opposite happened with my nine year old brother Joey. He fell asleep in front of Batman & Robin when I was watching it on DVD to rant on the internet about how it sucked so bad and his eyes widened the whole way through Batman Begins on bootleg after we saw it in theaters.
LMAO HES RETARDED YO ROFL
You the only one who is whining, little wigger. We are reviewing movies and your mind might not be able to comprehend this but the opprotunity for a feature Batman film comes once in a blue moon and we need to pay close attention to them and handle them with upmost care for we are true Batman fans.
Look who's talking.
Did you even watch Batman? He ahinaliated all of The Jokers best men when they had a car chase with the Batmobile. In Batman returns he punched a guy in the face and then straped a bomb to his chest in five senconds and plunged him down a hole. Did you even...watch the first two movies? The first two Batman movies are the truest to the comic book besides Batman Begins. Batman Forever and Batman & Robin SUCK.
Batman Forever SUCKED. Batman was ****ING AWESOME and Batman Returns was twice as good.
That is because Tim Burton wanted Bruce Wayne to look like a common man when Micheal Keaton as Batman would whup yo ass.
Who the **** you talkin bout? The ****** at the end? He was hard because he was the thoughest of all of The Joker's men and he was also trying to make it like he was losing the fight on purpose so he could use his ninja powers of deception to make it seem like he won so when his guard was down the most he could throw him down the stairs of a hundred story building. Batman had control of the fight the whole time. I win the arguement.
Micheal Keaton was a great Bruce Wayne. How the **** is he aint a good Bruce Wayne? Val Kilmer is a ****ed up Bruce Wayne and Batman. He plays a wooden Bruce Wayne and a horny depressed man dressed up like a bat.
I love that part.
Actually the Batman was very dark in the original 1939 through the 1940's comics. In the FIRST comic that Batman premired in May of 1939, Detective Comics #28, Batman watched a thug fall into a vat of acid and all he had to say as he looked upon the sight was in a dark growl "A fitting end for his kind..." You, like Joel Schumacher are just sad, strange, confused little men who do not understand this and are more accustomed to the campy, in-favor-of-superman Batman of the 1950's-1970's meanwhile Tim Burton was going with what Bob Kane started when he first created Batman with Bill Finger: A mysterious and adventruous figure fighting for rightousness and apprehending the wrong doer, in his lone battle against the evil forces of society...his identity remains unkown. This dismisses him fighting in public, having a computer doing everything for him, falling in love with Poison Ivy, having a Robin, or being equiped with a team of sex diseased bat bimbos. The only movies that stayed true the original comics are Batman 1989, Batman Returns, and Batman Begins. THAT'S IT.
Batman and Bruce Wayne are two different people, buddy.
Wrong. In 1989 he forgot the cave entry but only because he was charming as a millionaire play boy even when he was not trying to be and so into a conversation with Vicki Vale that he walked in the wrong direction for a second. It is called "Humor" and it is another factor that made the 1989 Batman great. He never forgot it in Batman Returns! He still ****ed the girls in the end and that is the root definition of "Play boy", not acting like Johnny Bravo and not getting a feel of them love handles.
Mr Parker said an oxymoron. You are saying that he is a martail arts expert so he should be injured from the fall. So you are implying that he is not a martial arts expert because he was not injured by the fall. So that means he wasn't You are saying that it is Batman walking away from a jet crash is an excuse for being strong. Then you are saying he is weak for not breaking his legs in the plane. The Batman in the comics, The Batman from the 1989 movie, and The Batman from the 1989 comics are all the same Batman. They have all honored the title of Batman many times over. The screen writers did a briallnt job with Batman 1989 and Batman Returns. If you directed the 1989 Batman movie Batman would be stuck in a broken jet with broken legs. Way to go, Spielberg.
Batman is not the series to go for if you want your bat nipples, neon lights, bat bimbos, ambiguously gay sidekicks, bat bimbos, neon lights, shit for brains directors, butt shots, credit cards that say "BATMAN FOREVER" on it, bad actors, wasted ****ing awesome characters, played out character reincarnations, popular teen female characters added to make things less gay, suits you cannot fight in, and giant naked statues. But you want to know what a natural is for that sort of thing? SUPERMAN AND SPIDERMAN! **** THEM UP, LEAVE BATMAN ALONE BITCHES!
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