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Originally posted by lil pimp
Listen you peace of shit i was just ****ing around, dont go pissing in your batman underoos you damn geek, you want to call my cousin a retard well **** you and your peace of shit family ***** .if you think Keaton looked good well *** **** the chinless wonder your self . you wanna start something with this Latino, mother****a good , even though you aint nothing but a ***** with a big mouth.you want to call me retard just because i said something good about batman 4, geeks dont know how to take a joke it seems ,and you all mad cause of the nipples on the costumes when you still suck on your dirty mommas nipples, ***** please you must be doing that since all you do is cry cry cry cry on this forum. Also why is your name sevenman do you want **** seven men well i bet you are going to start with Michel Keaton since you think he looked so fine. so if you finally done bitchen **** off you silly little HO!!!


Pimp , dont play his game. If he want to insults and being a chidish guy, fine for him. Now its a moderators issue.


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War?

Yo, c'mon. Don't be a flat-liner, man.

You like Batman Forever and Batman & Robin because you are ignorant.

If you say that The Penguin is a sewer dwelling moron then you did not understand his tormented character. That is why I like him. He is a born freak and Batman has to wear a mask. That's powerful stuff if you could just sit down and enjoy it. Two Face wasn't a sewer dwelling moron. You're a sewer dwelling moron!

Yes. BATMAN RETUNRS ****ING ROCKS BIG TIME!

When Val Kilmer said "If Bruce Wayne could have saved your parents by giving his life for them, he would have" that was not because he was a good actor. It was because of good writers. Micheal Keaton could have done it better along with any other line in the film if Tim Burton directed it with no Robin. Over an two hours of script was cut out in the final script of Batman Forever to make it more "Family-Friendly" or in other words "Cash Cow" instead of the dark, interesting, and realisitc stories of Batman and Batman Returns. Robin was a gimmick to give credibility to Bruce Wayne when he was already credible. He was not supposed to have a character at all besides millionaire play boy. If his character was intense and advertised everywhere then everyone in Gotham City would know Bruce Wayne is Batman. It is not realistic and Batman does not need Robin to be a great character. He is stronger than that and Tim Burton realized this. He casted Micheal Keaton because he wanted Bruce Wayne to look like an every day man and even though the world was against it he proved that he was worthy of the title of the Dark Knight with the powerful performances he displayed in the first two films. The new Dukes of Hazzard sucks, I agree. The Dukes of Hazzard was funny when it came to sex but I feel all they had was sex as an advertisment...that's it. Burt Reynolds didn't prove me wrong because he did not play a convincing Boss Hogg. Micheal Keaton portrayed an awesome Bruce Wayne and Batman. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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OOOOOOOOOOOOO........Val Kilmer and George Clooney was FAR worse than micheal Keaton. I agree with you that Christian Bale and Christopher Nolan have made Batman Begins a great Batman movie but Micheal Keaton and Tim Burton are still the FOR REAL Dynamic Duo. He only forgot which direction he was going in for a second in the first movie and it charmed Vickie Vale. It's called a "Joke". Get over it. It was not "Batman" it was "Bruce Wayne". BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG difference. Micheal Keaton portrayed both Bruce Wayne and Batman better than Val Kilmer and George Clooney combined. Batman was a killer in the first two films because Batman was at odds with the police in the first two Batman movies except with Commissioner Gordon. You have a retarded nerve for saying that Batman and Batman Returns were like James Bond flciks because both love intrests had reason and passion behind them while Dr. Chase Maridian became the first bat bimbo. She treated Batman as if he were a rebelious rock star that she could use for sex like a horny school girl and Batman went to her and RISKED HER GETTING HURT BY THOSE WHO WISH TO KILL THE BAT WHICH HAPPENED AT THE END. Now THAT ruins credibility! Bruce Wayne is a millionaire play boy to distract people from suspecting that he is secretly The Batman. He does use his alternate persona to get chicks and does date every woman he meets as both Bruce Wayne AND Batman. Joel Schumacher butchered Batman way more than Tim Burton did. Tim Burton is a blessing. Joel Schumacher is garbage. Joel Schumacher/Val Kilmer and Joel Schumacher/George Clooney are ****ing horrible cominations for Batman. Micheal Keaton and Tim Burton was an excellent combination for Batman. **** it. Micheal Keaton IS Batman. Saying "Thank god for Schumacher" about anything ruins your credibilty to argue and as a human being. You also can't say that Joel Schumacher is so great for not casting someone who is not his friend because Tim Burton handed down his would-have-been-trilogy to Joel Schumacher only because he was his friend so if you always wanted it to be that way Batman Forever would have been directed by Tim Burton and the Joel Schumacher Batman films would have either come ten years later in a NEW and "Different" trilogy where you can **** up Batman all you want with Robin, neon lights, and nipples or would have not have even existed. Tim Burton did not cast Micheal Keaton just because he was good friend with him but also because Micheal Keaton could tackle any role you through at him from comedy to a serious film which he proved in Batman and Batman Returns. He is like Jim Carey even though he sucked as The Riddler. Tim Burton is PIMP like that, yo. He told the true Batman fans to DEAL with it and they loved it. It's been done delt with, yo. Micheal Keaton was casted well and even though all Batman fans feared they would be in store for a campy Adam West style Batman they got the first dark portrayal of Batman on a mainstream scale since 1939. Be specific about what "Goon" you are talking about. Batman did beat the final ****** in the first Batman film blind folded. He tricked him into thinking he was winning so he could dust him off like an old coffee table. You are not mature enough to get that. Well, you know what? YOU SUCK ROYALLY!

You mean...BATMAN FOREVER SUCKS BIG TIME!!!

Fixed your typo.


And you like batman and batman returns because you are even more ignorant and a untrue batman fan.

Two face was a moron in batman forever. But the penguin was another moron in batman returns. And a lot of people didnt understand it, even the dc people and the warner bros people.

Again with idiotic arguments. Man, the keaton potrayal of bruce wayne wasnt only goofy, it was too misterious. When someone meets bale or kilmer bruce wayne, thinks " an stupid rich man more". But when someone meets keaton bruce wayne thinks" too misterious to be a normal rich man". That is the unrealistic thin. Even a jerk would suspect that keaton wayne could be batman. But no of bale or kilmer, because they are behaving like the arrogant and typical rich play boy. I repeat, you are the one who needs sit down and see the movies again because you didnt understand the things.

You are the one who sucks because your arguments are bullshit. Keaton didnt any powerful performance, only an stupid and comical one. Burtom wanted to do his own wolrd in batman , not the true portrayal of the character. He casted keaton for being his friend, not for being right for the character. Burton sucked as much as shumacher. The movies were unrealistic. Batman isnt old and short and out of sharpe and almost bald, the joker isnt fat and old and short and almost bald. The penguin isnt a retarded freak. Catwoman and penguin origins were too unrealistic. The scripts were pretty bad. Gordon was wasted. Batman was a killer and a bad fighter. his origin is unkowed and he is a supporting character. Etc, etc. AND ALL OF THAT IS TRUE TO THE COMICS??? or you have never read a comic or you must be joking.


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I am not your dude. And your arguements are crippled not mine. Bruce Wayne was not an old bald man he was a great man portrayed by Micheal Keaton. But not TOO great or his cover is blown. Danny Devito was convincing you could not just accept it. Saying that everyone did not accept it is saying that everyone didn't accept the Joker. Watch Mask of the Phantasm THEN you can talk.You can laugh at The Penguin because you do not understand how tormented he was and if you do not get that you need to watch the movie again because you did not understand where Tim Burton was coming from by making The Penguin's character great. You can stay "True to the roots" but then no one likes The Penguins character because he was boring. This jazzes him up a bit and makes him awesome and dark. This has been happening since the very begining. When Detective Comics #27 came out it was not originally The Red Hood that fell into the acid and became The Joker. They changed this later on because it made the universe awesome and people did not ***** about it because their were no fans of the universe with some regular guy dying in a vat of chemicals and The Batman universe had no structure. People bitched about The Penguin's origins being changed later on because their was structure but that did not change the fact that it was cooler than just some random crime boss. Like The Riddler from the 1966 Batman series they did have a character but it either sucked or was non-existant until their revamped appearences made them awesome, noticable, and provoked geeks to to try to ***** out the wise decision of change. I laugh at anyone who says The Penguin is funny. He is not supposed to be. That is because all of the villains of the Batman universe are distinct from The Joker, who is the only one laughing. Tim Burton did not need The Joker to make a great Batman film because their were other personalities and emotions to explore with other villains but all Joel Schumacher could say to excuse the butchering of The Riddler's character was "At least The Riddler was funny" and that just makes us go "yeah...thats it". EXACTLY. The Penguin was ridiculed by society much like you are ridiculing his character now. You are just trying to be too cool and it's not working. You view villains in the first person. If they are funny you like them if they are ugly you make fun of them. You are like Catwoman in Batman Returns so if you want to see how your arguement ends up with the Penguin being a mutant freak just sit back and watch Batman Returns. It is called the third person. You are not on either side but merely watching from afar. The Batman almost did die in the first Batman films so if you want him to die it is interesting to see how he surrvives and if he can or not. Batman was not a coward he was realistic. If you watch Batman Begins at first he fights Ducard in ways that are not "Cowardly" with different fighting techniques but Ducard starts fighting with him dirty and wins and excalims that this was not a dance. Batman realized this in Batman Returns so he did not fight like a coward nor portray a dance...he fought like a man. The Batman. The Batman was at odds with the police in the first two films except with Commissioner Gordon but in Batman Forever, the sequel to Batman Returns, Batman is not at odds after commiting murder. Batman and Batman Returns had excellent screenwriting that was believable like Batman Begins. Commissioner Gordon said that their will be no vigilantes because of good writing. It had nothing to do with the director or actor. I agree with you that Batman Begins was a great movie but so was Batman and Batman Returns. Batman, Batman Returns, and Batman Begins are both good movies in their own right. Tim Burton's movies were believable because I believed it. Your arguement is not crippled. You have no arguement. A Batman sequel without Robin is not like Starskey and Hutch without Hutch or The Dukes of Hazzard with Luke Duke but no cousin Bo Duke and it is not the same thing. Those duos were together from THE START and if you are going to have Batman and Robin togethner you need to do it from the START like they did with Batman #1. You are saying that there should first be a movie with Starskey and then add Hutch in the sequel and The Dukes of Hazzard movie with Luke Duke in the first one and have Cousin Bo Duke added in the second one. Same thing. That has to be the biggest load of pig shit I have ever heard! If you want Robin then the first three Batman films should have been Batman alone just to show you how much cooler he is alone then start a whole new series by Joel Schumacher in a trilogy with an old Robin, neon lights, and nipples on the bat suit. That way you would get what you like without ruining the dark lone vigilante Batman I like. You said you liked Batman Begins with Batman being alone so I do not know why you insist on ruining it with Robin and a whole truck load of homosexual jokes that you and me combined would never be able to fight off. The first Batman film and Batman Returns was not too dark. It is impossible for Batman to be too dark. Batman is not a coward. Batman KILLS. Batman crossed the line and Beyond. If you want a likeable guy then read Superman or Spiderman comics. Batman Begins is a good movie in its own right and I respect the idea of Batman not killing anyone as long as it stays out of the real and only one true Batman universe. God Bless America.


Keaton sucked as bruce wayne.

De vito was a joke as the penguin, but it was more the script fault.

Batman in the comics is a hero and a detective, not a killer . he hates the murder. That is one of the main concepts of the charater.

The penguin concept is stupid. It would be a lot better if they went with the gangster concept. The tormented freak was only a bad copy of the elephant man or the movie freaks. And it didnt work because he wants to be a criminal sometimes and was too vicious to be related with him. It was weird , not tormented.


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There was realism in the first two Batman films because Batman was not some guy he was Batman and he was not treated like a hero they even say in the Batman films if Batman should be a friend or a foe. He is at odds with the police and society except for Commissioner Gordon but still fights for Gotham City even though they are fighting him along with the crimainals of Gotham City because he believes that Gotham City is not beyond saving. This is gone deeper into with Batman Begins if you want to really understand. They were thankful that Batman saved them at the end of the first film because they could have died. If we did not fight the war that America is in recently and kill the people who wish to do us harm we would have died and we are thankful for our troops and they are killers. It is realism because it happened in real life after those first two films. They were not boring as hell they were very interesting because it was not all action they were very deep films where conversations, circumstances, and mysteries would lead up to final battles instead of being meaningless violence. It is not nuts for a Batman film. It is a Batman film. You can laugh at The Penguin and that is what makes him great. You are not supposed to like him because he is misunderstood and if you watched movies from the third person instead of the first perons like a normal human being you would enjoy his character. Two Face was a fakeout The Joker who would easily be foiled by the police with his rediculous schemes defeating the purpose of needing Batman for him. You are right. Joel Schumacher's Two Face, The Riddler, Poison Ivy, Bane, and Mr.Freeze were not just wannabe The Jokers. YOU ARE! You make fun of the movies by explaining them comedically instead of portaying them in the sad-but-true light that Tim Burton did except you are not like Tim Burton because you do a horrible job doing it. Just have one The Joker. Tim Burton's The Joker, The Penguin, and Catwoman were better than Joel Schumacher's Two Face, The Riddler, Poison Ivy, Bane, and Mr.Freeze combined. Simple as that. The origin of Catwoman was all circumstance. What if she was not really brought to life by cats but they just wanted to eat her? What if she did not all those times but just happened to surrvive? It is possible and the times she died were surrvivable. Selina Kyle was just in a state of mind that she was Catwoman but was not actually meta-huaman just like The Penguin and The Joker. If you are a keen audience member you would realize that instead of believing the nonsense you make the Tim Burton films look like in your dim light. Batman and Batman Returns did not suck. YOU SUCK!


You are posting crap again. Batman doestn needs to kill to be an outscast or a dark hero. he is dark and he is violent at times, not a killer. If he is a killer, he would be as bad as his parents killer. And that one of the main concepts of the character. He never uses guns or kills, he hates it. Batman begins portrayed this a a very brillaint way. And THERE ARENT ANY RELATION BETWEEN BATMAN AND GORDON IN THE CRAP BURTON MOVIES. gordon was only a fat and useless cop with any importance in the stories. THAT RELATION WAS ONLY IN BATMAN BEGINS.

THERE ARENT ANY REALISM IN THE BURTON MOVIES. PENGUINS IN A SEWER, CATWOMAN REVIVED BY CATS, PENGUINS WITH MISSILES AT HIS BACK, SELINE KYLE BEING A WOMAN WITH SUPER STRENGHT AND SUPER AGILITY AND WITH FIGHTING SKILLS WITH THE WHIP WITHOUT ANY TRAINNING, ETC. that is tim burton world, unrealistic and weird.


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Tim Burton would have made Batman Forever better than Joel Schumacher did. The Batman Franchise was ressurected by the first movie. Micheal Keaton was not short, nor unmuscular, and not balding at all, and upright, and fought like a mother Micheal Keaton for the role of Batman and Bruce Wayne. It was amazing how everyone said that Micheal Keaton was the worst choice for Batman and now most people think he was the best one to ever play Batman and Bruce Wayne. He only forgot which direction to go for a second and the first Batman film and it was funny because he was distracted by how beautiful Vickie Vale was and she was charmed by this and it cripples the arguements that the first two Batman films were too dark and not funny. EXACTLY. Thank you for proving my point, my friend. He was not a bubling idiot he was like an ordianary man except he had a way with women that you could not begin to understand. No wnoder you do not get women because you think the only ways to get women are stupid. I think that Butthead from Beavis and Butthead put it best when he said "Sometimes you have to like...act like a wuss to get chicks and stuff". That's so true. Batman Returns was better than the first Batman. They did not develop the Batamn Character in the first Batman film because it was year one for Batman not the time during his training which is more like year zero and pre-Batman. His character develops by exploring his past whilst already amidst his future. The Penguin was not stupid because he was able to play a ****ing city like a harp from hell nor retarded he was just an animal with basic instincts and their is no ultimate goal to evolution so you have no arugment. You could releate to the parents of the Penguin the most because you hate him so much and are not mature enough to handle such a sophisticated such as Batman Returns. Commissioner Gordon was not as big in the comics as he was in Batman Begins so that is entirely new so you cannot blame it on the 1989 original and Batman Returns for not doing anything with that becaus all three are good films in their own right. You should bad mouth Batman Forever and Batman & Robin more than you do the first to films! r u retarded or something??? Micheal Keaton looked exactly like how Bruce Wayne looked. An oridinary man who is a millionaire playboy. Micheal Keaton can play any role you give him no matter what and Val Kilmer is just for show who will not stay for more than one movie who cannot act as well as Micheal Keaton can. Christian Bale rocks as hard as Micheal Keaton. You're shit, dickass. Micheal Keaton is 5'9 and he did not have a wig and he was a play boy, or as people say today, "Player" because he got in bed later. That is saying more than you can, NERD!!!

Then you come in kissing ass with your brown nose after all that talk about Batman Forever being "So great". Suckadick.


Nope, burton would made batman forever just as bad as schumacher did.

The batman franchise was dead since the first movie.

Keaton was short, unmuscular and almost bald.

Not, FALSE AND WRONG. bruce wayne was a total idiot by keaton, not only with woman, with alfred , etc.

That woman argument is moronic and the beavis and butthead thing is idiotic. Wayne is cool with women and he gets all the woman what he wants and dont needs to be a wuss. Bale and kilmer prooved it.

In a first film on a character, you needs to knows his origin to understand his motivations. Why this guy wears the cape and fights the crime?? But not, burton went and everything is about the joker and the freak penguin.

You are posting crap. Im not talking about feelings or being sad about the penguin. Im talking about characters , and the penguin a very awful character in tim burton hands. His plans were not logic at all, he wasnt any intelligent and his lines were crap. That " you are like the penguins parents" is only crap.

Gordon needs to be a important character in batman mithos and burton did of him an stupid and useless cop without any importance. That was one of the many faults of the burton movies.

Keaton looked as bruce wayne is??? And you claims that you are being a true batman fan? With that statment, you prooved that you arent. Read the comics, bruce wayne isnt an everyman, a short and almost bald and our of sharpe man. He is the opposite. Peter parker is a everyman, bruce isnt. Keaton is a good actor, but he was terrible as batman and bruce wayne.You are a moron if you said that keaton is as good as bale. Bale is miles away better than keaton or kilmer or clooney. Keaton is 5'8 as much and is almost bald and isnt a play boy. Only a short man. You are the only nerd here claiming that you are a true batman fan and posting nonsense and false statments.


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Then you come in kissing ass with your brown nose after all that talk about Batman Forever being "So great". Suckadick.



sevaenman all you do is talk about sucking di*k we can really care less about what you do in your free time. also why you wright so much crap nobody cares about you geek!!

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All right, enough! I've been away too long, I guess. First off, I agree with Seven Man because Batman and Batman Returns were great and realistic movies and Keaton rocked. But I do agree with Baker Boy because Keaton did act just a bit too mysterious.
And Lil Pimp, you are getting on my 2nd to last nerve. If you think that people who don't like B&R and Forever because of the neon and what not are geeks, why do you continue to post replies? Is it that you are a geek yourself? Is it that you just don't want to admit your wrong? Or is it that you are just a *******! ~The rest of Bat Dude's sentence is not suitable for anyone's eyes~


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Bat Dude i dont want a problem with you the reason i said all that stuff to sevenman is because all he does is talk trash about other people. Also if you knew me you'll know im not a geek. Also the reason i keep replieing is because people like sevenman like to talk shit about other people which i believe aint right . Im not trying to say people dont like B&R or forever couse of the neon everyone else is saying they dont like it because of the neon!You know im going to be the bigger man and apologize to ya i lost my temper and said some mest up things so i apologize!!! Peace!!

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First of all, sevendude. Relax, boy, you are being pretty inmature and childish for insulting the people only for critizing the batman movies. Have you some mental problems or something? We arent talking about your family or friends, only about movies. If you are soo poor that you need to post insults in stead of arguments, the discussion is dead . Being something clever and post reasonable arguments not crappy and childish insults.

The best batman was bale, not keaton. I agree that kilmer and clooney sucked in their performances as well,but at least, kilmer looked the part and portrayed the bruce wayne character as he is in the comics. Keaton didnt any of those things.
Agree with shumacher gay tone, it was terrible.

Keaton was a terrible batman and a terrible bruce wayne.

The real dynamic duo is Nolan-Bale. They did the first good batman movie and very loyal to the comics, with a great script, great lines and great performances. The burton-keaton duo was terrible because they did batman and his world in his own way, his own and weird way, not as he is.

Keaton is a good actor, but he was terrible in batman. The part isnt for him, he was a terrible casting choice.

Yeah, the dark tone was great, and the music. and michelle pfeiffer was catwoman. But everyting else in burton movies were crap.

Batman killing is awsonme? You have a very weird concept of the character. Batman is a detective and a heroe, not a killer. He hates the muder , because his parents were murdered. You should read the comics again to understand the character. Well, you and tim burton.

Michael keaton is short, out of sharpe and half bald. Look at him in mr mom or bettlejuice or johnny dangeroulsy.


Keaton and burton were pretty bad in the batman movies.
THATS SO PREDJUDICE AGAINST YOUNGER PEOPLES! No boi I won't relax! And you can't make me with your immature hoish insults and your niggerish grammar. How do you know if I am calm or not? It is text not real life so you have no way of knowing my mood. Look who's telling who they are making insults instead of arguements. Degrading younger peoples just like they were a fresh batch of hickery smoked *******. I am making valid arguements because they are true and only one turth prevails you just take them as insults. Your fault, not mine ho. IM RICH, *****! The best Batman was Micheal Keaton, not Christian Bale. George Clooney and Val Kilmer sucked and everyone has their own interpretation Bruce Wayne so your arguement is not valid. Micheal Keaton can play any role you give him unlike Val Kilmer who "Looks the part" as you people say but cannot pull it off as brilliantly as Micheal Keaton did. Micheal Keaton portayed both Bruce Wayne and Batman as they were in the dark comics. Everyone reads different Batman comics and if you have read any of the rediculous material written in the official Batman comics in the 1960's you could say that Joel Schumacher's Batman is the truest of them all that is because Batman was not dark since his premire in 1939 and the early 1940's but was his dark side was revived with the truly and undeniably brilliant Frank Miller. This interpretation was brought to the masses with Tim Burton's first two movies and as far as you know without him the dark side of Batman could just have been a minor foot note. They only added Robin and made it campy to be more like Superman so they could make more money with Batman instead of giving Bob Kane and Bill Finger a chance to emphasize on the dark opposites of Batman that made him great. Val Kilmer did not portray Bruce Wayne as he was in the comics because he never banged one girl like Micheal Keaton as Bruce Wayne did. Being a playboy is not about the attitude it is about the results. Micheal Keaton is a fantastic Batman and a fantastic Bruce Wayne. The REEEEEEAL dynamic duo is Tim Burton and Micheal Keaton. They did the first good Batman movie and very loyal to the comics, with a great script, great lines, and great performances. Tim Burton did Batman in a dark way. Darkness that had not seen the light of day for fifty years. I laugh at anyone who says that Micheal Keaton is a bad actor. He is one of the most underrated actors out there. I know he was a fantastic Bruce Wayne and Batman because he can play any part you give him. Did you not see Beetlejuice? I could not tell he was also Batman for years. You are right that the movies did have a dark tone, the premire of the official Batman theme, and Michelle Pfeiffer is Catwoman. The rest of Batman and Batman Returns ****ing rocked. BATMAN KILLING IS ****ING AWESOME! I do not have a weird concept of the character I have a true concept of the character. Joel Schumacher was just bringing his own crazy nonsense to The Batman universe and I laugh at you saying that he was true to the comics with Batman Forever. I know after you put your arguements head to head with Detective Comics #27 you do not stand a chance because he has been killing since he first came out. Batman is a Detective not a super hero and controversial/commercial. He's not Superman, you know. The Batman does not hate murder, he seeks the mean to fight injustice and bring justice to all. The Batman will handle entire investiagations and impossible cases single-handedly through interrogations where he kills because he serves them justice being the sole man that knows they are guilty. You see Batman neither loves nor hates murder. It is something he must do to serve justice to those who bring injustice to good people. Tim Burton went back to the dark roots of the character as oppsoed to going with some detour superman boring plot. You should read the comics again to understand the character. Well, you and Joel Schumacher. Micheal Keaton is not short, out of shape, or half bald. He is tall, in shape, and with a full set of hair. Look at Beetlejuice or Johnny Dangerously. Note also that in Johnny Dangerously they wanted to make him look older so he was moving on from being a little boy and in Beetlejuice Tim Burton wanted the most disgusting, moldy, and vile creature admireable. Micheal Keaton is a great actor since that is his opposite. Micheal Keaton and Tim Burton made the BEST BATMAN MOVIES EVER BESIDES BATMAN BEGINS.

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The real batman is old??? Man, read the comics again. Bale and kilmer were in the right age when they did the batman movies, keaton not.

Devito is a great actor , but he was terrible in batman returns. Maybe is the scripters fault, but he was awful. Burton did a very weird thing with the penguin and not, you are posting lies, NOT ANYBODY LIKED AND ACEPT IT. Even the dc comics people and the warner bross people disliked that freak version of the penguin.

Yeah, the riddler was terrible. Very gay. But the penguin wasnt less terrible. A freak idiot without any intelligence. The penguin is supposed to be very clever. The origin of the character was a joke, rised by penguins in a sewer. The penguin sucked. If they would go with the comics character with some variations, like a gangter , it would be a lot more interesting, not that elephant man bad copycat. " Im not a man, im a animal". Pretty stupid.


The penguin and catwoman origins were pretty stupid and unrealistic. Devito performance, as nicholson, was histroinic and over the top. See his speech to the penguins, one of the worst speechs ever. And penguins with missiles at his back. Very mature and realistic.

Batman forever and batman and robin were as different and unloyal as batman and batman returns. As you saying that batman and returns are loyal to the comics?? Man, read the comics.

Yeah, batman forever and batman and robin sucked. But batman and returns too. And keaton looked pretty bad, a 5'8 guy trying to be batman. It was ridiculous.
Yes the real Batman is old. Dude. Read The Dark Knight Returns. Christian Bale is the right actor not the right age for Batman and Val Kilmer and George Clooney suck. Micheal Keaton played his role flawlessly despite everyone's doubts about age and being a strict comedic actor and all the noise. Micheal Keaton looks young for his age and is ****ing awesome. Experienced and wise, young buck. Danny Devito is a great actor and was awesome in Batman Returns. I guess your taste is not refined enough to admire The Penguin's character. The scripters were excellent and so was Danny Devito. Tim Burton remixed The Batman universe by making The Penguin an interesting character as opposed to some fat guy with umbrellas. It is like what he did with The Joker and though they despised the idea of changing The Joker's origin eventually the people behind Batman The Animated Series accepted The Joker as Jack Napier. You are not a true Batman fan and need to watch Mask of the Phantasm like me, a true fan of the dark knight, did to understand that Tim Burton made The Batman cool again. You do not understand that it is naive to say that The Penguin was a "Freak" character because the entire movie revolved around not ridiculing him like his parents did. I guess you were not mature enough to understand most of the movie and are more like The Penguin's parents in real life than The Batman like me. Everyone at DC Comics and Warner Brothers liked the revamped version of the Penguin and it was even in the animated series. You are posting lies. **** you. I speak the truth. The Riddler was GAY. The Penguin wasn't less terrible he was ****ING AWESOME. He was not a freak idiot and had more intellegence than you will ever have. The Penguin is one of Batman's most intellegent foes and I guess you are not a true fan of Batman and like Joel Schumachers gay bar neon lights and bat nipples instead of the animated series because in it The Batman admits to Tim Burton's cooler and remixed version of The Penguin that he is one of the most clever villains The Batman has ever faced. It was not a joke and was very serious and most people in Gotham City in Batman Returns did not believe that a man could be raised in the sewers by penguins so you cannot accept reality like most common people in Gotham City. I am better than that. Like The Penguin, yo. The Penguin ****ing rocked. YOU SUCK! Aha! You said the comics with "Variations" and that is exactly what Tim Burton did so you do not know what you want so let the genius Tim Burton work his magic and you had best shut the **** up because Batman Returns was the best Batman movie ever made. The Penguin was the leader of The Triangle Circus Gang so he was a true ****ing gangster so next time just sit back and enjoy the movie, ho. The Penguin in Batman Returns was alot more interesting than he was in the original comics and would have been forgoten if it was not for Tim Burton so you had best be thankful or you are the ho I know you are. Oh well. He was not an elephant man copy cat thought he was a bad ass he was just born that way. Go rant at science, ******. He never said "Im not a man, im an animal" in Batman Returns he said it much more interesting and better than you did which is why it is a good thing that you do not make movies and Tim Burton does because you would suck and make a gay sewer freak that you love so much. Pretty stupid. The Penguin is ****ing awesome. You need to grow up and move on from the 1960's comics and Adam West TV show or you will never be a true fan of the dark knight. Sucks to be you. Must I repeat myself? You do not understand that it is naive to say that The Penguin was a "Freak" character because the entire movie revolved around not ridiculing him like his parents did. I guess you were not mature enough to understand most of the movie and are more like The Penguin's parents in real life than The Batman like me. Anyways, Batman Forever sucked so stop double talking yourself because you just said it was good so next time just listen to me first before you play yourself ****** and Batman & Robin sucked too. Jack Nicholson ****ing rocked and Danny Devito was even better. It was not over the top that is who they are. If you directed the movies they would end on a pretty down note. Good thing Tim Burton saved The Batman univese because you make it gay with neon lights and Bat Nipples. The Penguin's speech was interesting to see a man brought down to an animal that he would care for The Penguins so much that he would talk to them as his only friends it is like the movie Cast Away before its time so you do not even like Cast Away so you had best be cast away from society since you kiss Val Kilmer's ass with your brown nose and suck on his bat nipples in a gay neon bar. Totally not like me, yo. The Penguin made one of the best speeches ever. Actually you can make an animal do what ever you want with proper mind control and they did tests like that in countries so you finally saw it my way and was able to admit that Batman Returns was very mature and realistic. Good *****. Batman Forever and Batman & Robin are different and unloyal to the comics but Batman Returns is not in the same league as Batman Returns so your arguements are crippled and you are not credible as a human being for liking Batman & Robin. I am saying that Batman and Batman Returns are loyal to the comics and go down to their roots. I am not your man, that is Joel Schumacher so suck his dick and stay away from mine you butt ****er. Ho, read Detective Comics #27 and learn about The Batman. Then you can talk. Batman Forever and Batman & Robin sucked. Batman and Batman Returns did not suck and Micheal Keaton looked ****ing awesome. Micheal Keaton was 5'10. Micheal Keaton IS Batman.YOURE REDICULOUS! The Batman is ****ing awesome and I do not care what you say.

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Stop the insults, dude. You are behaving like a 7 years old boy posting insults.

Hahahaha, that is pretty good. You are a true batman fan? You are acepting those unfaithful and unloyal batman films by tim burton and you are a true batman fan??. A true batman fan is the one who hates the four previous movies an understand that batman begins is the only one good and loyal movie. And the thing that we understand is that the burton movies were pretty bad movies, and unloyal to the characters, as the schumacher movies were.

Hahahaha, batman killing is true to the character. Man, what are you talking about??? Could you post more lies that the ones that you are posting??? Because your arguments are pretty false and laughables.

Batman forever sucked. Batman and robin sucked. Batman sucked. Batman returns sucked. Batman begins rules.

If burton wanted to do that, make another movie about another character. Not batman. Is like a director wants to do a movie about a 60 years old spider man. That isnt spider man or peter parker. Go and make another movie about another character.

Batman had control of the fight all the time?? That guy kicked his ass and he only could beat him tricking him. What movie did you see?

And dont post that stupid excuse about " the guy was the strongest of the jokers goons". That guy was only strong, batman is a master of all the fight styles and martial arts. He could beat that guy in 10 seconds or less.

Keaton was a terrible bruce wayne. He didnt look the part and his acting was goofy and stupid. Bruce wayne is a cool play boy, like kilmer or bale played him. Again, you need to read the comics.

Dont mix the things, batman begins is THE ONLY TRUE MOVIE to the batman character. The another four movies sucked in one way of another.
I am not your "Dude", ******. I also do not post insults you just insult yourself and I just post the obvious. No need for thanks, *****. THATS SO PREDJUDICE AGAINST YOUNGER PEOPLES! You are behaving like a forty year old Jerry Springer soccer mom who deserves to get shot by degrading her fat McDonalds kids. I AM THE BATMAN FAN! I am accepting those faithful and loyal Batman films by Tim Burton and I am a true Batma nfan. A true Batman fan is the one who hates cheesy ass mother ****ers like you and loves Batman, Batman Returns, and Batman Begins an understands that Batman, Batman Returns, and Batman Begins are the only good and loyal movies. And the thing that we understand is that Tim Burton's movies were ****ing awesome movies, loyal to the characters, and Joel Schumacher and you sucking his dick suck. I am not your "Man", you pig ****er! Batman Killing is true to the character and I am talking about, as my own man because I am coo like The Batman, because I have read The Batman first comics so go down to his dark roots and spit the truth and I am still a man. A man that does not care about what other people think. My arguements are not arguements but the one truth and you fake laugh because you know that I am right and I am a man. Batman rocked. Batman Returns rules. Batman Forever sucked. Batman & Robin SUCKS! Batman Begins rocked. If Tim Burton did that it is called "Plagiarism" and you would be bitching and trying to convince that Tim Burton man is exactly like Batman you know what I say to be true. Peter Parker and Spiderman become sixty exentually so you should not do it about another character or it is pladgerism of Spiderman and not Spiderman. Go make a movie about Spiderman or you will ***** about it being like spiderman. Batman had control all the time and that man, not guy, only looked like he was kicking his ass and tricking him was not the only way but they used to to make The Batman 1989 movie interesting not gay like you. What movie did YOU see? You need to be specific, ******. I was not posting a stupid excuse I was posting a DUMBSTUPID reason, yo. A reason not an excuse. Get it right or pay the price, ho. It was true and I did not say he was the strongest goon I said he was the strongest man. This is Batman not the Goonies, ho. A true fan would know but I guess you will not be mature enough to learn from me. I'm cool like that, yo. That was not a guy that was a man, guy. He was strong and The Batman is master of all matial arts including deception. He COULD have beaten that man in ten seconds or less but kind of makes it interesting. Micheal KEaton was a fantastic Bruce Wayne and Batman. He made his part the new look and he was a charming PIMP and you are goofy and stupid. Bruce Wayne is a play boy and he played them because he's cool liek that, yo. Again, you must read the first comics to know that he was coming from the dark roots of The Batman instead of the big gay Batman of the 1960s you want me to read and be gay like you because you are jealous because I am cooo like that, yo. I am remixing things and if you are against it then you think Batman Begins sucks because Batman Begins was a new mix on the dark knight because The Batman did not kill in Batman Begins and that was not the original idea but a gimmick like Robin so if everyone listened to you we would all be stupid watching Joel Schumacher's rubber nipples and Batman Begins would not even exist. Batman Begins is not true to the original comics whether you like it or not and Batman and Batman Returns are THE ONLY TRUE MOVIES to The Batman character. The other two movies sucked in all ways like you. I love Batman Begins because it makes things new and remixed about Batman like Batman and Batman Returns and if you argue with me then you **** Joel Schumacher up the butt and hate Batman Begins. Yeah. That's right. FAKE LAUGH. NERD!!!!


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Again, you are so full about batman returns and you even dont remember the movie. See the scene with bruce and selina in wayne manor, see when he go to the batcave and didnt remember it. See the scene in the elevator, he was a wuss, a total and insecure idiot. That isnt bruce wayne.

The scripters did a terrible job in batman and batman returns. Not origin, not enought character development, too much focus on the villains, bad lines, etc.

Yeah,batman and bruce wayne are different, but keaton didnt play any of them as they are in the comics.
Again, I am so full of coolness and I remember Batman Returns. LOL! I am laughing in real life because he forgot which direction he was going around women in the first movie and the second movie so I was able to get where your coming from without you telling me because you are not clear and to the point like a ho and not like me PIMP. Selina Kyle said "I'm working" and Bruce Wayne was in the elevator and said "I'm leaving!". Again, it is funny so you have no arguement saying it is too dark because that was a funny part whether you like it or not. He was a man because he charmed her it is called PIMP not insecure idiot. I don't know what...you are...that was Bruce Wayne. You are some dork who does not know how to charm a woman. Yeah...that's it. The cripters did a fantastic job in Batman and Batma nReturns. They were not supposed to be about origin and in the original Batman comic books in Detective Comics #27 it does not start with origin it starts with the Batman film of 1989. Character development was excellent, focus on the villains gives them less of a villain-of-the-month type of deal and makes them more huamn and realistic, good lines, ect. Batman and Bruce Wayne are different and Micheal Keaton did play both of them as they are in the comics and better. It is called "Being original". If you make them exactly like the comics no one will like them because it has all been done before. Surrvival of the fittest and if you cannot move on with the rest of the world you be dead. If you hate Batman and Batman Returns you hate Batman and that makes you...DORK.

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Yeah, the schumacher movies were pretty bad, as bad as the burton movies. But, bad actors??? Tommy lee jones is a bad actor??? Michael gough is??? Uma thurman is??? Pat hingle is???jim carrey is??? Their performances are bad, but they are very far to being bad actors.

Again, you are being a childish kid postin insults. Leave batman alone you, because defending the burton movies you are being everything but not a true batman fan.
The Schumacher movies SUCKED. The Tim Burton movies ROCKED. If you perform bad you are a bad actor and I loved Micheal Gough in the Batman movies because he was more loyal to the title of Alfred than the Bruce Waynes and Batmans were and they were the main characters. Not tot ake ANYTHING away from Tim Burton. Most ****ed up saga ever thanks to Joel Schuamcher. Not to take ANYTHING away from Tim Burton. Do you even read the comics? You do not like people like people like Frank Miller or Bruce Timm? The Tim Burton movies are just that but more realistic on both accounts. You are no true Batman fan, you old fraud! Again, you be ****** who predjudice against younger peoples which automatically makes babies more mature than you because if you can't say nothing nice don't say nothing at all. You inslut yourself, ho. I defend the movies because I defend both Bruce Wayne and Batman because I AM A TRUE BATMAN FAN SAYING. LEAVE BATMAN THE **** ALONE ******!

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Pimp , dont play his game. If he want to insults and being a chidish guy, fine for him. Now its a moderators issue.
He pimp you ho. THIS AINT A GAME MOTHER ****ER! You inslut yourself, pizzaslut. I am not a "gy" like you are I am a MAN. a BIG STRONG MAN! DOUBLE BICEP POSE so you best stop insulting younger peoples or I beat you up, ******. GOOD FOR ME! Pfft, YOURE a moderators issue!

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And you like batman and batman returns because you are even more ignorant and a untrue batman fan. Two face was a moron in batman forever. But the penguin was another moron in batman returns. And a lot of people didnt understand it, even the dc people and the warner bros people. Again with idiotic arguments. Man, the keaton potrayal of bruce wayne wasnt only goofy, it was too misterious. When someone meets bale or kilmer bruce wayne, thinks " an stupid rich man more". But when someone meets keaton bruce wayne thinks" too misterious to be a normal rich man". That is the unrealistic thin. Even a jerk would suspect that keaton wayne could be batman. But no of bale or kilmer, because they are behaving like the arrogant and typical rich play boy. I repeat, you are the one who needs sit down and see the movies again because you didnt understand the things. You are the one who sucks because your arguments are bullshit. Keaton didnt any powerful performance, only an stupid and comical one. Burtom wanted to do his own wolrd in batman , not the true portrayal of the character. He casted keaton for being his friend, not for being right for the character. Burton sucked as much as shumacher. The movies were unrealistic. Batman isnt old and short and out of sharpe and almost bald, the joker isnt fat and old and short and almost bald. The penguin isnt a retarded freak. Catwoman and penguin origins were too unrealistic. The scripts were pretty bad. Gordon was wasted. Batman was a killer and a bad fighter. his origin is unkowed and he is a supporting character. Etc, etc. AND ALL OF THAT IS TRUE TO THE COMICS??? or you have never read a comic or you must be joking.
I like Batman and Batman Returns because I am not ignorant because I do not ignore what makes them great which makes me a true Batman fan and you an ignorant and untrue Batman fan. Except I got facts to back it up and you just got jibba jabba. You say because I love Batman that I am not a Batman fan? That means if I do not like Batman I am a true Batman fan so you do not even know what you are talking about anymore. You are not even a challenge to me anymore. I am not even trying. I'm cool like that, yo. Two Face is a moron in Batman Forever and that is why you like it because you can relate to him. The Penguin was not a moron and smarter than you and Two Face in Batma nReturns. Alot of people did understand it even DC COmics and Warner Brothers. Again with the again. Dude. You are like a broken record. Yeeesh...I am not your man, queer. Micheal Keaton's portrayal of Bruce Wayne and Batman was awesome and as Bruce Wayne it was not goofy but charming it was too mysterious and that was just enough mysterious. You have got the part down right about Val Kilmer being a stupid rich man but when they "Meet"...what the ****? Anyways, when they see Micheal Keaton on screen they think he is mysterious but if you are interacting with him in the first person you will see him as a millionaire playboy. The way it should be and it was with both Micheal Keaton and Christian Bale. That is a realistic thing because it happened. You are a jerk and you suspect Bruce Wayne is Batman but other people do not. Micheal Keaton and Christian Bale ****ing rokced. Who says Bruce Wayne is arrogant? A rich man was different in the 1940's, little man. Today they can behave like the arrogant rich playboy because Val Kilmer has experience but if you want to stay true to the comics you should stick with Micheal Keaton and Christian Bale. Who says Bruce Wayne is arrogant? Who says Bruce Wayne is typical? All they say in the original comics is that he is a milionaire playboy then you nod your head at Joel Schumacher's nipples and say they are true to the comics because you suck his nipples, *****. Read the first comics. Then you can talk, *****. I have sat down and saw the movies again and I understood them just like I did the first time when I was too years old, ******. I do not suck I rock because my arguements are the one truth and you are the bull's shit that I step in. Micheal Keaton had a powerful performence and a cool comical one you are the only one who is stupid because you cannot even spell "Burton" right! Couldn't be worse! Tim Burton wanted his own world to be like the dark roots of Batman unlike your butt buddy Val Kiilmer who is just there to look good. He did a true portrayal of the character and anyone who thinks otherwise is confused like the wangsta lil imp. I am not your man, butt ****er! Get over it. Yeesh....anyways, he casted Micheal Keaton because he could do any role you gave him no matter what and they just happened to be firneds and he knew that Micheal Keaton was right for any character. I know you are thanking your lucky starts that Tim Burton was friends with Tim Burton, pig ****er! Thank God. AKA Tim Burton and Micheal Keaton. You suck as much as Schuamcher for liking Batma nForever so much. Tim Burton does not suck he ROCKS and so do his realistic and dark portrayals of the dark knight in his Batman movies. Batman is not old, short, out of shape, and almost bald. The Joker is not fat, old, short, and almost bald. The Penguin is not a Retarded Freak. Catwoman and The Penguin's origins were realistic. The scripts were ****ing awesome. Commisioner Gordon was wasted in the original comics so if you hated the original movies you hate the original comics so you should just make a new character or give Spiderman and Superman nipples, you little dildo. The Batman is the killer and a good fighter. His origin is known next time pay attention to the first movie ho and he is the main character. Ect, ect, ect. All of that is true to the comics. I have read the comics and so you need to read the comics before you just keep going on and on with your gay rants. I look like I'm joking? You are learning from the master AKA me, young buck. Good *****. **** YOU ******! I repeat, Val Kilmer SUCKS! You SUCK!


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Keaton sucked as bruce wayne.

De vito was a joke as the penguin, but it was more the script fault.

Batman in the comics is a hero and a detective, not a killer . he hates the murder. That is one of the main concepts of the charater.

The penguin concept is stupid. It would be a lot better if they went with the gangster concept. The tormented freak was only a bad copy of the elephant man or the movie freaks. And it didnt work because he wants to be a criminal sometimes and was too vicious to be related with him. It was weird , not tormented.
Micheal Keaton rocked as Bruce Wayne. Danny Devito was not a wannabe Joker as The Penguin unlike The Riddler, Two Face, Poison Ivy, Bane, and Mr.Freeze. The script had no fault. You have faults. Batman Returns was a brillaint script whether you like it or not. Batman in the comics is not a super hero in the ocmics he is a detective and a killer. He does not love nor hate murder it is just something he has to do. Watch the first Batman. The Batman being able to kill is one of the main concepts of the character. You must mean The Amazingly Unrealistic Spiderman or Supergayman. Go **** them up, ******. Anyways, The Penguin's concept is awesome. You are stupid. It would be alot better if they went with the gangster concept and that is what the yd di so shut the **** up, ho. The Penguin was more than a tormented freak and was not a bad copy of the elephant man or the movie freaks you **** cows in retrospec. It worked because it is not as simple as him wanting to be a criminal you just are too immatur e to understand where he is coming from. The Penguin was too vicious and that is vicious enough and that is a fact. It is not weird and it was tormented in reetrospec you are just a ***** who is too immature and cliche and follows society like The Penguin's parents and I am like Batman because I understand him along with the average two year old movie goer. I'm K7, *****.

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You are posting crap again. Batman doestn needs to kill to be an outscast or a dark hero. he is dark and he is violent at times, not a killer. If he is a killer, he would be as bad as his parents killer. And that one of the main concepts of the character. He never uses guns or kills, he hates it. Batman begins portrayed this a a very brillaint way. And THERE ARENT ANY RELATION BETWEEN BATMAN AND GORDON IN THE CRAP BURTON MOVIES. gordon was only a fat and useless cop with any importance in the stories. THAT RELATION WAS ONLY IN BATMAN BEGINS.

THERE ARENT ANY REALISM IN THE BURTON MOVIES. PENGUINS IN A SEWER, CATWOMAN REVIVED BY CATS, PENGUINS WITH MISSILES AT HIS BACK, SELINE KYLE BEING A WOMAN WITH SUPER STRENGHT AND SUPER AGILITY AND WITH FIGHTING SKILLS WITH THE WHIP WITHOUT ANY TRAINNING, ETC. that is tim burton world, unrealistic and weird.
You are posting crap again. I am not posting crap agian. The Batman is dark and violent all of the time and a killer. If he is a killer he is not as bad as his parents killer he is better because he serves justice for all you give gay Superman and Spiderman logic so leave Batman out of it or no one will love you. It is not one of the main concepts of the character because he killed in Detective Comics #27 you are just confused because I am a man who agrees that Batman Begins was a good movie but in its own right because like Tim Burton's movie of bringing a new dark mix on the dark knight Christopher Nolan's Batman did not kill and that is unloyal and untrue to the character but that does not mean that Batman Begins did not ****ing rock. Batman used a gun in Batman Begins so shut the **** up, ho. He loves it. Batman Begins portrayed this in a very brillaint way. And there is a relation betwen Batman and Commissioner Gordon in in the awesome Tim Burton movies. Commissioner Gordon was not fat he was just big boned and he was not a useless cop he was Commissioner Gordon with an importance in the story. That releation was only in Batman, Batman Returns, and Batman Begins. Not Batman forever, *****. There is more realism in the Tim Burton movies than reality. The Penguins are in a sewer because humans destroyed the enviornment. Catwoman may assume she was revived by cats just like you I guess you did not catch that with, ******. Penguins with missiles at their backs. You cannot even spell. Do not question Tim Burton's genius you would not begin to understand mind control of animals like they have done since the 1950s in other countries. Selina Kyle being a strong and agile woman with fighting skills using basic instinct after being awaken unlike the trained and puny minds of man, ect. That is The Batman world that Tim Burton blessed you with even though you are unthankful, unrealistic, and weird ho. The Batman does not need to kill or be an outcast to be a dark hero as proven in Batman Begins but it helps! It is also going back to his dark roots and if you want to be like that you must call Spiderman and Superman dark when they are gay so just write a Superman comic and leave Batman the **** alone. kthxbye


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Nope, burton would made batman forever just as bad as schumacher did.

The batman franchise was dead since the first movie.

Keaton was short, unmuscular and almost bald.

Not, FALSE AND WRONG. bruce wayne was a total idiot by keaton, not only with woman, with alfred , etc.

That woman argument is moronic and the beavis and butthead thing is idiotic. Wayne is cool with women and he gets all the woman what he wants and dont needs to be a wuss. Bale and kilmer prooved it.

In a first film on a character, you needs to knows his origin to understand his motivations. Why this guy wears the cape and fights the crime?? But not, burton went and everything is about the joker and the freak penguin.

You are posting crap. Im not talking about feelings or being sad about the penguin. Im talking about characters , and the penguin a very awful character in tim burton hands. His plans were not logic at all, he wasnt any intelligent and his lines were crap. That " you are like the penguins parents" is only crap.

Gordon needs to be a important character in batman mithos and burton did of him an stupid and useless cop without any importance. That was one of the many faults of the burton movies.

Keaton looked as bruce wayne is??? And you claims that you are being a true batman fan? With that statment, you prooved that you arent. Read the comics, bruce wayne isnt an everyman, a short and almost bald and our of sharpe man. He is the opposite. Peter parker is a everyman, bruce isnt. Keaton is a good actor, but he was terrible as batman and bruce wayne.You are a moron if you said that keaton is as good as bale. Bale is miles away better than keaton or kilmer or clooney. Keaton is 5'8 as much and is almost bald and isnt a play boy. Only a short man. You are the only nerd here claiming that you are a true batman fan and posting nonsense and false statments.
Yup, Tim Burton would have made Batman Forever FAR, notice how I emphasize on "Far" youre shit dick ass, better than Joel Schumacher did. The Batman franchise was revived since the first movie. Micheal Keaton is not short, unmuscular, and almost bald. Micheal Keaton is tall, muscular, and not almost bald and regular bald. Yes, FALSE AND WRONG. Bruce Wayne was a total palyboy by Micheal Keaton with women. He was not a playboy with Alfred. *****, ho, queer, ect. The woman argument is moronic and the Beavis and Butthead thing is idiotic. DUMBSTUPID, yo. Because I'm cool like that, yo. Bruce Wayne is cool with women and he gets all the woman what he wants like Micheal Keaton and dont need to be a wuss. Micheal Keaton and Christian Bale proved it. Val Kilmer and George Clooney killed it. In a first film on a character, you needs to knows his origin and understand his motivations. Micheal Keaton is not a guy he is a man, guy. All your stupid questions prove you are complete retard and are all answered in the first Batman movie. You know what I say to be true. Tim Burton went and everything is about Batman, The Joker, The Penguin, and Catwoman. It is called "Main Characters", FREAK. You are posting crap. You are posting shit. I speak the truth. I spit the struth, *****. You do not have enough feelings and it is not simply feeling sad about The Penguin. And you're bitching again...and The Penguin was not very awful and very awesome character in Tim Burton's hands. Tim burton's plans were logical in every way you are not logical at all you do not even have proper grammar and just go ranting on and you are kind of weird. The Penguin was intellegent and his lines were not crap. You are crap. You are shit. That "You are like The Penguins" parents is the truth and you saying that is crap makes you like The Penguins parents so you are not only crap you are shit. Commissioner Gordon needs to be an I spell correctly so learn from me, ***** or you be dead and Tim Burton did him as a smart and useful Commissioner not cop like you say because your stupid moron idiot brain does not understand police ranks but you are the ho and I am PIMP STATUTS so there is not anything I can do about you being sadder than The Penguin with Commissioner Gordon having importance. The Tim Burton movies had no faults. There were no faults in the Tim Burton movies. You have many faults. Period. That was one of the many great things about the Tim Burton movies. He is not like you, guy. He is a MAN. Micheal Keaton looks just like Bruce Wayne did. I claim that I am The Batman True Fan. With that statement I prove that I am, *****. You are just a *****. All you do is *****, *****, ***** all day and I am a man and The Batman True Fan. I'm cool like that, yo. Sucks to be you. Anyways, I have read the comics and I know Bruce Wayne is not every man but he makes it seem that way. Every man was not short, bald, and out of shape in the 1980's thati s just people like you today in 2005. You give men a bad name. Micheal Keaton has honored the name a man and The Batman many times over this is true. Batman is the opposite of Superman and Spiderman so go **** them up the butt you dildo and leave Batman alone with your neon ligths and all that noise. You need to live up to the standards that Micheal Keaton and Bruce Wayne set and be an every day man like them tall, hairy, muscular man you just another nerd with a keyboard and saying we like you is an insult to any foo, thud, or soul man everywhere, *****. Anyways, Peter Parker is not every man he started out as a teenager so now you would also **** up Spiderman so read Superman you ****ing pussy and Bruce is every man and ever good man like there was back in the 1940's and if you think that you must be a ****ing Jap so shut the **** up afore I bomb yo ass, *****. Anyways, Micheal Keaton is a great actor, and was fantastic as both Bruce Wayne and Batman. I am not a moron for thinking Micheal Keaton was as good as Christian Bale. You are a moron for thinking Val Kilmer was as good as Christian Bale. Some kind of betterness is measured out in miles with Christian Bale and Micheal Keaton than Val Kilmer or George Clooney. Micheal Keaton is 5'10 as much has a full set of hair, and is a playboy. Plus a tall man. You are the only nerd here claiming that you are a true Batman fan and posting nonsense and false statements. I can spell statements, *****. Anyways, The Penguin is cool and not simply a freak and you are too immature to understand like I did when I was two years old because it was either done on purpose or it's just a movie and you probably shouldn't worry about it.

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QUOTE=4854507]Originally posted by lil pimp
sevaenman all you do is talk about sucking di*k we can really care less about what you do in your free time. also why you wright so much crap nobody cares about you geek!! [/QUOTE] Other way around, MOTHER ****ER.

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All right, enough! I've been away too long, I guess. First off, I agree with Seven Man because Batman and Batman Returns were great and realistic movies and Keaton rocked. But I do agree with Baker Boy because Keaton did act just a bit too mysterious.
And Lil Pimp, you are getting on my 2nd to last nerve. If you think that people who don't like B&R and Forever because of the neon and what not are geeks, why do you continue to post replies? Is it that you are a geek yourself? Is it that you just don't want to admit your wrong? Or is it that you are just a *******! ~The rest of Bat Dude's sentence is not suitable for anyone's eyes~
Micheal Keaton acted mysterious to the audience but made the people around him oblivious to the fact that he was The Batman if you view the movie from the third person.

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Bat Dude i dont want a problem with you the reason i said all that stuff to sevenman is because all he does is talk trash about other people. Also if you knew me you'll know im not a geek. Also the reason i keep replieing is because people like sevenman like to talk shit about other people which i believe aint right . Im not trying to say people dont like B&R or forever couse of the neon everyone else is saying they dont like it because of the neon!You know im going to be the bigger man and apologize to ya i lost my temper and said some mest up things so i apologize!!! Peace!!
OMG STFU NOOB!!!!1


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Im not going to stoop to your level you aint nothing but a ignorent fool you dont know me. im a boxer if i ever saw you ill knock you the **** out!one more thing sevenman stop trying to dis me you sound like a ****ing wangsta!!!

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I just joined this BB fifteen minutes ago, and now that I have seen the quality of debate here, I am never setting foot in it again.

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SUCK MY BALLS!

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Originally posted by lil pimp
Im not going to stoop to your level you aint nothing but a ignorent fool you dont know me. im a boxer if i ever saw you ill knock you the **** out!one more thing sevenman stop trying to dis me you sound like a ****ing wangsta!!!
Have at the sea rat.


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you aint got no balls

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