To you, yes it would be, but that also goes into the whole faith thing.
That's the problem with religious topics, some people are unable to differentiate between fact and opinion and use the whole faith thing as a scapegoat.
With me though, Dave is the only reason I can tolerate Slayer's music. Oh, and Lars is really nothing special. He's good, but (unlike Dave Mustaine) he's an a-hole first and a musician second.
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You didn't use facts about his ability, did you? You used opinion and in almost one paragraph you've done a complete and utter 180 degree spin from what you originally said.
Kerry King wouldn't come on the bottom half would he? Considering all the guitarists ever. To add to that, EVEN IF he did, he most CERTAINLY would never ever be in the league of being one of (yes, one OF) the worst lead guitarists of all time. You're drastically underrating and underecognising him.
So my opinion was wrong, wasn't it? Yes. So that means an opinion can be wrong.
It WAS an opinion. It's not anymore because it's been proven wrong. Proving? That opinions can be proven wrong.
No, by confidence.
If you believe in confidence, which you do, that he's among the worst, it's because you are basing it on what you know. Not fact. What means he isn't among the worst is the fact that he doesn't have the lack of quality that you would find in one of the worst guitarists ever.
Hahahaha. I said "So you're pretty confident that there are none worse." And you say "No, like I said, I'm sure...". What do you think being "sure" is? Being confident, you cretin.
You're proving my point. They were given reason to believe otherwise, weren't they? This proving their opinion wrong. Like I am to you.
No, I can prove that when compared with King's technique, there are worse guitarists.
Yes. No. Please do yourself a favor and read up on guitar theory. Then, and only then, will you have anything credible to add. What I originally said: "king is about THE single worst lead player of all time" Notice I said NOTHING of his rythem ability in what I originally said.
I'm dropping the whole opinion thing because you just aren't grasping such a simple concept and getting back to the topic of musicianship and ability
Wrong, and reasons have been given to support this based on his actual ability. I mean it's kind of embarrassing, isn't it, that while I can say he is among the worst and cite his actual ability as evidence that you can only say "no he's not, FACT".
Yeah, your opinion of his ability. Your wrong opinion.
Your opinion is wrong, like the people who believed the Earth was flat, were wrong. Sure they believed it strong, but that didn't stop the FACT that the Earth is a sphere. You believe what you believe strong, you're wrong though. You're belief strength doesn't change that.
I dunno, you were the one who got smacked. You were the one spending time claiming how an opinion can't be wrong only to be trampled.
How does it taste? Either way, lets save the embarassment of you and keep to actual musicianship shall we?
So tell me this, how is it that me, the one with far more knowledge on what scales, key and guitar theory are and have a better idea of king's ability than you am wrong. This should be good.
Lol, the posts say otherwise. No, an opinion CAN'T be wrong. And opinion COULD have been wrong at a time.
Either way, you are the one arguing that king isn't a bad lead player when you have no knowledge on the subject.
Sure, so you can embarrass yourself further.
I just don't get it. I don't know anything about brain surgury other than what I see or hear on tv or whatever. I don't know anything about the techniques or skills involved, so I naturally wouldn't get into a discussion about who is a good brain surgeon, so why are you trying to argue who is a good guitarist when you don't know anyhting that goes into making someone a good guitarist?
Yes, I did. Prove me wrong, don't just retort with "You don't have anything credible to add" considering a bulk of what you've been posting is wrong.
Your opinion is that he is one of (that means all inclusive) the worst guitarists of ALL TIME. How can you be RIGHT? You cannot honestly believe that someone with the overall ability of King is one of the worst guitarists ever. He's not.
You're actually beyond stupid. It's been factually proven with concrete evidence that an opinion can be wrong. Deal with it. I hate people like you who despite being factually, blatantly proven wrong, don't know when to admit it.
You are the one arguing that he's one of the worst of all time, out of all the millions who have existed. What does that say for your knowledge? Nothing.
Why are you assuming that I don't know what goes into making a good guitarist? Why are you assuming that?
You are sitting there claiming that King is one of the factual worst guitarists of all time, when he isn't. You have only used opinion to show why you believe that. Opinion that is wrong. And I've shown you WHY your opinion is wrong.
Medical opinion is constantly confirmed later by factual evidence, the same with scientific ideas. While they were empirically facts at the time, they were held as opinions by the holders due to their not having access to the evidence.
So let's go back to the Earth example. Their opinion was that it was flat, they had no proof, but they believed it with confidence.
Someone came along with fact - which lest we forget, overrides confidence - and proved their opinion wrong.
Their opinion wasn't fact, until the evidence was produced. Because even when they believed the Earth was flat, it wasn't was it? The Earth has always been round. You can't say, with any truth, "It was fact to them." Because fact means undeniably true, able to be proven true. You can't prove the Earth is flat.
Ok, you're just dumb. I don't know how else to say it. I sit there and tell you what he can and more importantly can't do based on his ability, and yet you continually come back with "ur teh wrong. It's teh fact" over and over.......and over and over. What he can and can't do is FACT. What part of that do you not comprehend? I mean when I say he plays out of key, how is that opinion when we have PROOF that he does? Even if it were an opinion, how would it be wrong when we have PROOF. Have you ever listened to the solos on reign in blood that are kerry's?
I'm dumb? You've spent most of your posts insulting me in childish ways, holding onto an arguement that's wrong and continually putting opinion across as fact.
And YOU continually think that what you're telling me is total fact. You're telling me what he can do based upon what we've all heard. You believe based on what you've heard that he's one of the worst of all time and by the sheer scope of that claim. He isn't.
If you had a list of all the best, ranked on technical ability, he wouldn't be low. Or even if he was, it would be because of the amount of better guitarists. Not because he's crap.
YES! Exactly. What he can and can't do IS fact. Hence why him not being one of the worst is fact. Because his ability isn't as bad as you're claiming.
Yes I have. How does any of this make him one of the worst guitarists ever, as opposed to one you just don't like?
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