Except for the ambiguity of the scenario in question. All we actually see is Wolverine charging forward, with his upper body twisted in a “Imma about to gut you” stance, with bullets whizzing by him.
He then proceeds to get shot twice later on in the same page. So much for those "side-stepping abilities" of his helping him out there.
Is he immune to using hyperbole either? No.
Do you always automatically take every thing you read at face-value like this?
I’ve seen Batman avoid gunfire that was supposedly him dodging the bullets, but was really him dodging the aim. I’ve seen Colossus get very close to getting shot when bullets whizzed right by just inches from his face. I’ve seen a group of ordinary, normal citizens manage to duck down just in time to avoid bullets flying by where they were just standing.
I don’t chalk any of those moments to bullet-timing either, despite the people actually avoid getting shot like that.
Yes, it is. Pretty much every thing you listed as to how Wolverine could dodge a bullet is all fine and dandy, but doesn’t automatically pertain to this particular moment.
Hyperbole is exaggeration, which is exactly what would a describe a moment where a person manages to avoid being shot by a bullet and is automatically listed as dodging said bullet.
No, I'm not. From what I remember of them though, they couldn't hit shit.
Actaully if he was not trying to dodge the bullets he would have ran straight in body not twisted in such angles. Not to mention the fact that if two bullets hurt him so much, why would he risk charging as you say? If he was not planning on dodging the bullets you say……….you actually believe Logan thought bushwacker would simply miss him…….come on now. His stances and twist was clearly to dodge the firer which is shown wizzing by him, if he charged as he normally does not twist he would have been shot long before he made it that closes. He was clearly shown to be dodging the firer and the statement by DD proves it.
From point blank. He not perfect he makes mistakes. Also the shot only clip his shoulder and if you look he attempting to dodge it, look at the angle of his body. Also as for the second shot, he on top of bushwacker there really no way to dodge that closes and even still only a single bullet hits him and he able to avoid the rest.
No, but he not known for it which means it very unlikely it was a hyperbole.
Nope, but when the character stating it hardly ever hyperbole. When The fact the character states it as a fact. When we then see the bullets missing him. It clearly implied that he dodged it.
It does though. Becuases if he can and has there no reason to assume he not when a character such as DD who has the ability to know if he is or not states that he is. Not to mention the fact that it was clearly the writer intent that logan was dodging the bullet.
Not the same thing. Becuases it not an exaggeration for Logan who has the ability to dodge bullets to do so. It well within his power.
He acknowledge as dodging the bullet becauses it was stated, shown and is within his ability to do so.
Well your memory must be faulty, becuases comic book GI JOE’s kill a lot of people
That’s just it though; it’s not “clear” at all. Our only implications are that DD’s statements and the positioning of Logan’s charge towards Bushwacker.
On the other hand, like I’ve been trying to convince you, not every thing offhand comment is meant to be taken at face-value, even Matt’s who could just as easily be referring to the bullets missing Wolverine more so than Wolverine actually side-stepping them. Neither that nor the positioning of his upper torso actually proves that Wolverine was actually reacting faster than a bullet or that it was the writer’s intent, regardless of any other times he may have done so.
It’s obvious I’m not going to change your mind on the matter, Capt, but I doubt I’m the only one who questions the of the feat itself.
it clearlier then most. Any feat can be argued in the manner you are speaking. Same could be used for any character including dd, spiderman ect.
which is more then most feats have going for them.
not to mention Logan did not charge like that in the arc unless shot at.
On the other hand, like I’ve been trying to convince you, not every thing offhand comment is meant to be taken at face-value,[/B][/QUOTE]
this is true, however this is not one of thoses times. Most comments that are not ment at faces value are when the character is not actually doing the event. Nor do they have a character such as DD who can clearly confirm what they are stating.
......Matt now reverces to bullets missing some one as them dodging it? Come on man you can't be serous.
Well the writter did have DD state he was dodging them, and he was running at the gun man not jumping to the side. Not to mention it machine gun firer and the way he charged in it would not be possiable unless you could actually react to the bullets.
also your arguement could go both ways. I mean DD stated Logan got shot, given your arguement it must mean logan was not shot.
I mean if we can't take DD word that logan dodge the bullets I guess we can't take his word that logan got shot.
of courses it question by others it a wolverine feat no matter how stone cold a feat of wolverines is it will all ways be question.
also no one argueing for wolverine presented this scann, it was presented by the opposition.
Whats there to good god about? One of your points is that Bushwacker has incredibly bad aim. Ok why would Bushwacker have incredibly bad aim?
1. Hes a trained marksman
2. Hes has a bionic arm!!!!!!
How is somebody like that going to have bad aim? Furthermore its been stated that Wolverine basically has enhanced reflexes so ts very possible for him to be doding the bullets.
The fact that Wolverine got shot afterwards doesnt prove that he was aim dodging the shooter it could dman well be argued that he was so close it was hard for him to dodge bullets at that range.
Yes I understand whay hyperbole means and yes its possible that he could ave been aim doddging but to be quite frank theres nothing to indicate that he wasnt dodging bullets especially when:
1. Bushwacker has training and a bionic arm (which therefore makes it difficult to aim dodge)
2. Wolverine has enhanced reflexes.
3. Just because it looks like he running doesnt mean he didnt try to sidestep the bullets. I dunno man I think the reason why DD said that "he was dodging the bullets", was meant to indicate this.
4. This aint GI.Joe. This is Bushwacker. Maybe you should give us more examples of Bushwacker missing things so we can get your point.
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clean your apt before she moves in? buy some pink bed sheets? scented candles?
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ive said too much
Lol. That reminds me of Fallen Son, when Wolverine brings Daredevil with him to "interrogate" Crossbones, ostensibly to tell Wolverine when he's lying, but really so that, if Crossbones took the gun Wolverine had brought along and tried to shoot him with it, Daredevil could serve as a witness that Wolverine had killed him in "self-defense" .
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Furthermore its been stated that Wolverine basically has enhanced reflexes so ts very possible for him to be doding the bullets.
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