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RogerRamjet
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okay okay!! this is a tough one:

The incredible Hulk vs. Archie an' Jughead in a no holds barred handicap match...c'mon guys...this is as good as it gets!!!


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Originally posted by skizo
Says HULK Power...


You can't look at all of his powers and not say he's a cheap character. I mean come on, he is undefeatable. Let me just put it this way, if a hero is going up against him and that character doesn't have any psychic powers, he's screwed. It's nearly impossible to beat him in a physical match. Just think about it, with all of the abilities he has, he IS cheap.


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So Juggernaut is cheap yet Hulk isnt??


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So Juggernaut is cheap yet Hulk isnt??


why of course...Juggs got is can kicked by Colossus on numerous occasions..and now imagine what the Hulkster would do with Juggernaut...an' that freaky helmet of his...


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They both are equally cheap.

You can't really beat Hulk with physical power either, hell, telepathy doesn't even work on him 99% of the time.

So Hulk is a bit more cheaper actually.


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Originally posted by RogerRamjet
why of course...Juggs got is can kicked by Colossus on numerous occasions..and now imagine what the Hulkster would do with Juggernaut...an' that freaky helmet of his...


Tell me one time Colossus beat Classic Jugs. Just one.


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*They both are equally cheap.

You can't really beat Hulk with physical power either, hell, telepathy doesn't even work on him 99% of the time.

So Hulk is a bit more cheaper actually.*

Exactly

*Tell me one time Colossus beat Classic Jugs. Just one.*

I was about to say the same thing...I remember Colossus getting his a** Obliterated by Jugs in a bar fight quite vividly


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Originally posted by skizo
So Juggernaut is cheap yet Hulk isnt??


Hulk isn't because even though he has unlimited strength, he can still be beaten by a LOT of other characters. Hulk might be one of the strongest ones there is but he's not invincible. Just compare the two. Look.

Juggernaut can't get tired no matter what------Hulk can.
Juggs has only one weakness which is his mind------Hulk has a few.
Juggs has a freakin force field that can't be taken down------Hulk doesn't have any of that.
Juggs is said to be "invincible"------Hulk is NOT invincible.
Juggs is said to be completely invulnerable------Hulk just has high resistance to damage.

Based on that, you do the math and tell me that Juggernaut isn't a cheap character.


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Savage Hulk doesn't tire.
What are Hulk's weaknesses?
Hulk may as well be invicible, he heals wounds before they are finished being made.

They are almost exactly the same.


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So basically your saying Juggernaut is better then Hulk...correct??


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Tell me one time Colossus beat Classic Jugs. Just one.


well...almost everytime they (X-Men) tangled with him...except once when the big Russian was drunk and lovesick and Jugs was in his civil clothing...


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Savage Hulk doesn't tire.
What are Hulk's weaknesses?
Hulk may as well be invicible, he heals wounds before they are finished being made.

They are almost exactly the same.


Savage Hulk DOES tire. He doesn't right away. It takes a few weeks for him to tire but he does tire.

His mind is one. Another weakness is powerful energy attacks.

His healing factor is really good but it doesn't make him invincible. He can still be beaten with the healing factor.


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So basically your saying Juggernaut is better then Hulk...correct??


Not better, just cheaper. I admit that Hulk does have his flaws but Juggernaut is just too exaggerated.


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well...almost everytime they (X-Men) tangled with him...except once when the big Russian was drunk and lovesick and Jugs was in his civil clothing...


Um....no.

He's never once beat Jugs.

And the time you're talking about was when Wolverine was going to fight Colossus for screwing over kitty.

Wolverine noticed Colossus spilled beer on Jugs, and he knew Jugs would beat the hell out of colossus, so he didn't warn Colossus.

Jugs proceeded to beat Colossus' ass and offered to beat Wolverine's too, but Wolverine pussed out.


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Originally posted by Hulk Power
Not better, just cheaper. I admit that Hulk does have his flaws but Juggernaut is just too exaggerated.


Ok...if Hulk has more flaws how is Juggs not better??


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why does the circumstance of his nigh invulnerability make him cheap?!?!?!

what has this to do with the character itself? think of all the drama surrounding him...this messed up relationships...

and then look at Juggernaut...what does he bring to the table except his strength an' that geeky helmet o' his??


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Um....no.

He's never once beat Jugs.

And the time you're talking about was when Wolverine was going to fight Colossus for screwing over kitty.

Wolverine noticed Colossus spilled beer on Jugs, and he knew Jugs would beat the hell out of colossus, so he didn't warn Colossus.

Jugs proceeded to beat Colossus' ass and offered to beat Wolverine's too, but Wolverine pussed out.


no he didn't...he just didn't want to kill Juggernaut while we was without his helmet...cause he'd shread Cain inta pieces...period...


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Ok...if Hulk has more flaws how is Juggs not better??


I guess when you put it that way, Juggs is better in the sense that he has a bunch of cheap abilities. It's cheap powers like Juggernaut's that make him better than a regular brawler like the Hulk.


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why does the circumstance of his nigh invulnerability make him cheap?!?!?!

what has this to do with the character itself? think of all the drama surrounding him...this messed up relationships...

and then look at Juggernaut...what does he bring to the table except his strength an' that geeky helmet o' his??

He's a hero killer.

Even the strongest of heros are nothing to him. He just waltzes in and beats ass and leaves.

Whenever you see him on the cover of your favorite hero's comic, you know he's going to kick someones ass with no fear of being hurt at all.

That's awesome.


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no he didn't...he just didn't want to kill Juggernaut while we was without his helmet...cause he'd shread Cain inta pieces...period...

What?

Entertain my ignorance and explain to me what's the difference between Jugs with his helmet and Jugs without his helmet.


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