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BtAs is better than the source material.


Much of it, yes. The best Batman comics hold up, though. For example, The Long Halloween remains one of my favorite comics of all-time, from any company. And it's not necessarily even considered the best of the Batman stuff.

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I can't oversell it here...Spectacular is one of the very best portrayals of the character ever, besides the comics themselves. As a Spider-man fan, you may want to check it out.


Hmm.

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Just finished S1 of The Good Place.

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For the Spiderman fans...what were your thoughts on Homecoming? I honestly didnt care for Holland but i do admit his acting was good. I also liked his supporting cast. Also did it feel like a genuine Spiderman story?


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For the Spiderman fans...what were your thoughts on Homecoming? I honestly didnt care for Holland but i do admit his acting was good. I also liked his supporting cast. Also did it feel like a genuine Spiderman story?


Holland's fine. A good choice for the role. And the movie was good. Marvel's issue is that they're starting to get a little too cute with their universe. Winks and nods to the fandom, the larger cinematic universe, and pithy jokes are starting to replace substance. Guardians was tailor-made for that sort of sh*t, but Spidey should be able to stand on his own more. But they seem to be letting Guardians's influence leak into other movies (probably Ragnarok too, if the trailers are any indication). Story should always come before world-building, and they're occasionally guilty of swapping the two. You can hate on the Tobey portrayal, for example, but no one can claim SM1 and 2 weren't great standalone Spider-Man films. I'm not sure Homecoming can quite say the same.

The recreation of ASM #33 under the rubble was done nicely. Outside of Gwen, that was Spidey's defining moment in the early years of his comics.

My other issue is more outside the film itself. I knew way too much going in, from the trailers that shared too much of the plot and major moments. A lot of the suspense and excitement was gone as a result. I've sworn off comic trailers at this point, but will still get occasional spoilers via tactless headlines and random KMC talk. That's ok, but they need to get better about holding back the coolest stuff. It sapped a lot of the energy from my theater experience.


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yup. Very cool show.

Season 2 starts on the 14th


Yup, can't wait


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Holland's fine. A good choice for the role. And the movie was good. Marvel's issue is that they're starting to get a little too cute with their universe. Winks and nods to the fandom, the larger cinematic universe, and pithy jokes are starting to replace substance. Guardians was tailor-made for that sort of sh*t, but Spidey should be able to stand on his own more. But they seem to be letting Guardians's influence leak into other movies (probably Ragnarok too, if the trailers are any indication). Story should always come before world-building, and they're occasionally guilty of swapping the two. You can hate on the Tobey portrayal, for example, but no one can claim SM1 and 2 weren't great standalone Spider-Man films. I'm not sure Homecoming can quite say the same.

The recreation of ASM #33 under the rubble was done nicely. Outside of Gwen, that was Spidey's defining moment in the early years of his comics.

My other issue is more outside the film itself. I knew way too much going in, from the trailers that shared too much of the plot and major moments. A lot of the suspense and excitement was gone as a result. I've sworn off comic trailers at this point, but will still get occasional spoilers via tactless headlines and random KMC talk. That's ok, but they need to get better about holding back the coolest stuff. It sapped a lot of the energy from my theater experience.


Pretty much agree with this

Still Garfield as Spiderman, though Holland is better at playing both Peter and Spidey, where the previous two were goodat one or the other.

I was disappointed in how much Tony Stark there was though


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Pretty much agree with this

Still Garfield as Spiderman, though Holland is better at playing both Peter and Spidey, where the previous two were goodat one or the other.

I was disappointed in how much Tony Stark there was though



I dont know how I felt about Stark. I honestly wished someone else filled the role


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Much of it, yes. The best Batman comics hold up, though. For example, The Long Halloween remains one of my favorite comics of all-time, from any company. And it's not necessarily even considered the best of the Batman stuff.



Hmm.

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I'm going to take you literally and point out Long Halloween came out after BtAS, so it cannot properly be considered a proper source


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I'm going to take you literally and point out Long Halloween came out after BtAS, so it cannot properly be considered a proper source


Huh. Didn't realize. But thumb up


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Ultimately I agree though, there are so many Batman comics out there that some are bound to be pretty good. Also the fact you have a myriad of artists depicting héroes in mainstream comics makes them feel richer and more original.

I don't have any example in mind though.


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i disagree. The fight scenes were incredibly well animated, smooth.

wrong.

You can't lump SMS in with EMH. You're conflating art design with lazy animation. SMS and EMH may have shared similar art design, but the animation of EMH was based on symmetrical drawings that are easier to mirror in the animation process, meaning the animators had a lot less work to do... that's not the case with SMS. SMS did not use cycled animation like EMH, and none of the animation flaws of EMH are present in SMS. SMS had some of the smoothest animation of it's time... which is why i like it and YJ more than EMH.

EMH had epic fights, sure, but the animation of those fights was poor at best. If you watch fight scenes in EMH, you'll notice rapid cuts all over the place because the animators only drew a select number of frames, making the animation choppy... which they compensated for by using the previously mention editing cuts.


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look at the smooth animation in that gif., YJ was animated on at least 45fps you won't find that in EMH.




there are no cycles in that animation. no edits to hide missing frames.


your "epic" argument is like saying one of the Transformer movies had better fights than The Raid 2.


I found the animation in both ssm and ehm to be very smooth. Even the fights in JLU were more memorable to me than yj. There's more that goes into an action scene than just how smooth the animation is. That Graviton fight in emh definitely qualifies as epic. And again the two shows are VERY much like comparing apples and oranges. I would rather watch jlu over yj and in my book EMH is neck and neck with jlu.


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That's a long ass post just to be wrong.

Anyway, I'm glad all real people agree that EHM >>>> YJ forever.

Even myself who likes DC significantly more than Marvel in the past several years can see that.


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Yeah, but no. Young Justice is so good it's getting a third seasons because the fans demanded it.

Is EMH coming back? No.


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Blame Disney for killing it early and replacing it with a worse show, and it being on a channel (Disney XD) that fewer people have than Cartoon network.


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For sure.

And also of being all around of a lower quality. thumb up


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Nah.

Massively better action all around than the tepidness that is YJ.


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Ultimately I agree though, there are so many Batman comics out there that some are bound to be pretty good. Also the fact you have a myriad of artists depicting héroes in mainstream comics makes them feel richer and more original.

I don't have any example in mind though


Batman's one of the better characters for such things. The Killing Joke, Year One, The Long Halloween, Dark Knight Strikes Back (and "...Strikes Again") among others I'm forgetting. Lots of great self-contained stories that really, really get to heart of what most of us think of as what Batman represents. Give me Conroy voicing Bats with a 2.5 hour rendition of Long Halloween and I'd be in heaven. Unfortunately, Nolan borrowed pretty heavily from it (with Two-Face, primarily) so they probably wouldn't want to do it.


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Yeah, but no. Young Justice is so good it's getting a third seasons because the fans demanded it.

Is EMH coming back? No.


Thats not really fair. Marvel gets sick sexual pleasure from withholding what the fans really want. The thing i've always respected about dc is they run their shit like an actual business.


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As far as batman goes are his self-contained storylines the most successful?


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That's a long ass post just to be wrong.

Anyway, I'm glad all real people agree that EHM >>>> YJ forever.

Even myself who likes DC significantly more than Marvel in the past several years can see that.
a lot of people believe the Earth is flat and that there's an omnipotent force in the sky responsible for creating the universe...

basically, fck your beliefs.


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