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kING OF TEAMS:2ND BOUT
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Lord-of-Dreams
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Psshh!! I was losing with my plan alone, Jin?? Don't even go there!! You got six votes without even posting!!!!!!! What don't you get? Obviously those six loe votes weren't sole. You must ave gotten more from your little swingers crew during.
And what if some guy said my team is just better. What if... it was?? laughing out loud And how do you explain six prevotes, smartass? Obviousl people can't just prefer a team, as you say. Wait.. as I recall, you said they did in your own defence. Swinging gate, pal. One side of the fence to another.
And who ever said you couldn't use Bat's knowledge?? (course... your own logic contradicted it, so, you, I guess lol...) And, why do you complain about m guy's powers when you have a guy with a sword and armor which have the power to take on entire armies. Do we need to go over what street level is again?? Cuz I don't think Daredevil could run in and beat an entire army... wink Nope... and you said he did it with one slash, that implies power that no street level person has... I'd quite enjoy seeing Static (the 'all mighty' wink) Shock do that... stick out tongue
Well... someone had to win, so don't feel too bad. big grin


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Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
You must ave gotten more from your little swingers crew during.
Like you for yours.

Obviously if that's the case for one side that's the case for the other.


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Tha C-Master
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I'm not swinging anything, I don't think its fair what happened in the beginning.

Thats low, fact.


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Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm not swinging anything, I don't think its fair what happened in the beginning.

Thats low, fact.
Agreed. But saying subsequent votes were a result of the same is low too.

So you did vote for LOD then?

Well, *shrugs* as I said I don't vote in polls. . . unless there is an amusing option. . .

Like in the Mario vs Luigi thread I voted "WTF? YODA?!" Cause it cracked me up, and was what I thought as soon as I saw the Yoda option.


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i don't feel bad...or mad... hell I'm not even flustered to tell you the truth...

it's not as if I didn't see this coming as it is...

I'm just reasonably suspicious and incredibly disappointed. I came into this thing under the misconception that it was a street level tourny...apparently I was wrong about that due to the members on your team. I was under another misconception that the results of this battle would be due to the scenarios given and HOW we debated...I was wrong about that too.

the fact is my guys ARE street levels...the tmnt are freaking street levels that we can all agree on, and they take it to shredder all the time (they may not be able to beat him whatsoever, but they at least hold their own for a while), yet when I tried to bring my characters up to level the playing field vs. your overpowered guys all i got were complaints...

If I were to be REALLY cheap I would have used shredders fire mystic ninjas, and elite guards who are totally capable of teleporting onto the battlefield at a whim, or I would have had shredder go super and start napalming everything, flying around, teleporting, phasing out of attacks, and whacking people with lightning bolts. OOOORRR I could have given bats prep on static too since static is technically part of the dcu as well, OOOR pay off deadpool as both shredder and batsy are wealthy men, OORRR have snake eyes hynotize the lot of em and kill em at his leisure....

But I tried to keep it level, even then, going by arguments alone I had you completely on the defensive.. you proved yourself to be rather not so knowledgeable about your teams strengths and weaknesses, and even less aware of mine. I gave multiple scenarios of how to take down aqua and static with and without the sword of tengu and prep and still, you weren't happy...

I understand you had grief about the first 6 votes but lets get real here...we both saw how many people were actually responding to this whole tourny, how many people voted in the last one, and I at least know where most of my votes came from (it's simply rather unfortunate that people who support me and my arguments are constantly attacked, badgered, and berated and thus unwilling to reveal themselves...) but you (alone) got twice as many votes as people who participated in this thread... whats more is the only thing for an explanation as to why is "lod's teams better" which pretty much puts an end to the question of whether or not the actual debate really mattered here.... (although xmarks is the exception here).

I'm not mad or bitter, just suspicious and disappointed...but like I said...good luck in the next round.


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Originally posted by Creshosk
Agreed. But saying subsequent votes were a result of the same is low too.

So you did vote for LOD then?

Well, *shrugs* as I said I don't vote in polls. . . unless there is an amusing option. . .

Like in the Mario vs Luigi thread I voted "WTF? YODA?!" Cause it cracked me up, and was what I thought as soon as I saw the Yoda option.


Yea, I'll vote on threads, if its like buggs vs daffy.
You're supposed to judge the argument, not the person nor character.

I'm not saying anyone FORCED them to vote for jinzin.

No I didn't vote, until I read that 6 vote thing, that was for balance, because I don't vote on these too often.


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....................................................................................................................................oh yeah.....and daredevil?







he DOES fight armies...ever heard of the hand? pffft.


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Wolverine fights through armies. . . laughing


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who else...elektra, batman, hell snake eyes does it too, so has cap, so has iron fist! arrrgggg...it's like I said before...static's just too inexperienced...not my fault.


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Here's the thing thouhg. You said he took entire armies in one slash... DD's little bobbyknockers don't do that, son. wink
And you said the turtles couldn't take Shredder, son, so... not a valid comparasin... but if you want to go through there, let us look at a few of Static's enemies, such as a man made of rubber who is super flexible, but doesn't even stretch (well, he does, but not like Mr. F)... and he takes Static from time to time... very, very odd...
Oh, and for the record, you're right, I was almost always on the defencive. Good job spotting that. But, you see, I am always on D. I just prefer to give my one good strategy, then allow the other guy to try to break it down, I don't even really need to attack their strategy, since mine are usually foolproof, or I add little bits and bites. But it's a fact that I'm just a defencive kind of guy. stick out tongue (and by admitting this, I'm blowing up your little criticizme of me and my plan and of all those votes stick out tongue)


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You said he took entire armies in one slash...


"the sword leveled entire armies.."

Wolverine's leveled entire armies . . .not in one swipe . . .

I don't see "one swipe" in his original post about the armies. . .


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Originally posted by Creshosk
"the sword leveled entire armies.."

Wolverine's leveled entire armies . . .not in one swipe . . .

I don't see "one swipe" in his original post about the armies. . .


maybe that's cause I never wrote that...

get your shit straight...roll eyes (sarcastic)


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fine. Hey, tell me something, though, Jinie. What does leveled mean??


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Jinzin's being a smartass, why continue fighting a winning battle, you are going to realize how he can be and lose respect for him, no offense.


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fine. Hey, tell me something, though, Jinie. What does leveled mean??
In this context its taken down.

If you can kill all, or nearly all members of an army, be it one on one or one on 9 at a time. . . you can level army. . .

Wolverine is Street level and he can level an army of. . .


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Not really. Level has connotations that imply in one foul swoop. Black Bolt can level armies - Wolverine may be able to kill soldiers individually but he can't level armies.


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Not really. Level has connotations that imply in one foul swoop. Black Bolt can level armies - Wolverine may be able to kill soldiers individually but he can't level armies.

There is a difference between levelling an army with one attack and leveling an army after a battle.

Levelling an army simply means taking down the army.


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thank you...


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Okay - I hate arguing semantics - but level has connotations of knocking down with, or close enough to with, a single blow. If I chisel away at a thick concrete wall for ages until eventually it's pebbles, I can't honestly say I levelled the wall without being disingenuous.


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Okay - I hate arguing semantics - but level has connotations of knocking down with, or close enough to with, a single blow. If I chisel away at a thick concrete wall for ages until eventually it's pebbles, I can't honestly say I levelled the wall without being disingenuous.


The context that we are looking at is knocking down.

wouldn't the phrase "leveled him with one punch" be redundant if it meant with one blow?

Go to the verb usage:
http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?b...ry&va=level

definition 4


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