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Is Snape really evil?
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yeah i likd richard harris too ... the new actor isnt as well as him


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I liked the original DD. And I don't like Emma as Hermione. Hermione isn't supposed to look that pretty. Her hair is too flat and her teeth are too straight for Hermione. They kinda screwed up er character in the movies.


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I liked the original DD. And I don't like Emma as Hermione. Hermione isn't supposed to look that pretty. Her hair is too flat and her teeth are too straight for Hermione. They kinda screwed up er character in the movies.
Mmhmm.


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Why didn't snape even incapacitate Harry when he was fleeing?

Saving Harry for the dark lord(whoops I just said it without thinking about it) is all well and good but why not make him a sitting duck about it? He didn't fight back, just defended himself.


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ok everyone that thinks snape is evil is stupid, sorry but its true... anyway there are many clues that point to D wanting snape to kill him so many i cant type them all id be here all night but ill give you the bascis and the most important... snape and dumbledore (as said previously by someone) had conversations that point to the fact that dumbledore wanted snape to kill him, one heard by hagrid, and one by harry. Both of them you can here dumbledore saying "you have to do it no matter how much you dont want to, you must promise me" something like that at least. Well, what the hell do you think he was talking about?!?!?! Also another clue is that dumbledore might not have even died. In previous book the "Avada Kadavra" cure did not fling enemys ten additional feet away from the attacker, like when cedric died, he just collapsed. And dumbledore was trying to stall draco from killing him because draco would actually do it, when snape did it, dumbledore said please...please, misenterpreted by many readers. He meant please snape dont go back on your word. At the funeral you never see the body, hes carried in a big blanket. in this blanket, was probably fawkes for a few reasons... when the body is layed down, it burst into flames... sound familiar? Then afterwards, harry thinks hes sees a pheonix fly away and disappear into the sky. Fawkes escaping the coffin after bursting into flames. Also wheres dumbledores wand? Its never mentioned after dumbledores "death" so dumbledore must have taken it back, to use it in the future. So it was probably all just a scheme to try and pretend that dumbledore is dead and the dark lord will trust snape more. So that means that snape probably isnt evil and in the next book dumbledore and snape will return both on the good side. BTW, if you want to learn more clues got to dumbledoreisnotdead.com Thats where i got all this infomation.

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Some intelligence behind statements would be helpful.

"Also another clue is that dumbledore might not have even died. In previous book the "Avada Kadavra" cure did not fling enemys ten additional feet away from the attacker, like when cedric died, he just collapsed. "

This statement belies simple desperation. He flew back out of drama. To suggest it was not the killing curse is VERY strange- it was said and used clearly. Dumbleedore is dead- his portrait is up and he fell, wandless, out of a huge tower.

"please, misenterpreted by many readers. He meant please snape dont go back on your word"

Why? Did it look for one moment that Snape was GOING to go back on his word? He seemed to act without any hesitation at all.

"Why didn't snape even incapacitate Harry when he was fleeing?

Saving Harry for the dark lord(whoops I just said it without thinking about it) is all well and good but why not make him a sitting duck about it? He didn't fight back, just defended himself."

What difference does that make? Evil or good, Snape should have incapacitated Harry by that logic.

The dbate is not served by comments without proper logic behind them. The above are examples of easily counterable points that are being stated as undeniable facts.


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Question We'll see

We'll see when the 7th book comes out whos right big grin

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I'm not actually commenting on whether it is right or not, just that some of the reasons make no sense.


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If Snape really was on the good side, why couldn't he have chosen an alternative instead of the Unbreakable Vow? Was it absolutely necessary to go to that extreme? He knew clearly(since he was one of the few that LV chose to tell) he would be endangering Dumbledore's life. Somewhat fishy circumstances, if you ask me.


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You have a good point, that fact is very questionable, I mean Snape is really smart and with Dumbledores help they may have been able to find an alternative

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has any1 even thought that harry might be DD. except older? maybe harry changed his name to DD. but went back in time as DD. AFTER he killed Voldemort? that might be y he knew everything he did...

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Rowling already rejected that theory.

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ok...number one...thought this was about Snape not Dumbledore and Harry, and second of all their is a thread about this already.


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well... im out of ideas then...

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congratulations on your accomplishment. it took me forever to run out of ideas. smile


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well fuk u too dumas

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well im out of her mothr fukers

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I still doubt that Snape is still a death eater. I mean, if it was really that obvious would Dumbledore really trust Snape. Dumbledore isn't really that naive. Also why would Dumbledore tell Harry about all of his theories and why did he tell him over and over throughout the book that he was growing old and is going to die soon and he wants Harry to continue his research. Dumbledore obviously was planning his death. Also if you remember Hermione said that Snape Stupified Professor Flickwood and told Hermione and Luna to help him out. I understand that he didn't want to kill Harry because, "The Dark Lord want to deal with him." but what stopped him from killing Professor Flickwood, Luna, and Hermione. He could of just killed them there and got ride of a three of witnesses. Also, if he hated mudbloods, he would of killed Hermione. Also like someone said before, he wouldn't have been so pissed that Harry called him a coward.
But then again, JK Rowling hasn't made her characters that complex yet, and for the most part, everyones motives is straight foreward. So there could be a possibility he did it because he was on Voldemort's side. And also Ginny and Harry = stupid couple. I'm sorry I saw no chemistry, and I think it kind of came out of the blue. HARRY AND LUNA FOREVER!!

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I doubt he is. I can't be bothered with any reasons but someone else probably said stuff aong the right lines...


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so confusing What the f**k?


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