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Chi is just human bio electricity, correct?

HELL NO it isn't (sorry KVD, but this has bearing on my guy too). Chi behaves very differently from electricity.

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Not to science it doesn't.

It's seemingly the same thing, electricity -is- life force to a certain extent. It's just one is considered "magic" while the other isn't. All magic is science unknown.


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Not to science it doesn't.

It's the same thing, electricity -is- life force to a certain extent.

Right, except not at all. You're talking about kirlian auras, not the same thing as chi. Show me ONE study, one quote, ANYTHING frm a scientist saying chi is bioelectricity.

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Chi is just human bio electricity, correct?

It's under Electro's control. I can take it from you.

I just searched for "chi" on google, and it came up "human bio electricity"


yeah cause google will know the answer to that one...roll eyes (sarcastic)

no...chi is energy plain and simple... it truly has nothing to do with eletricity....even though what ryu produces is something that's similar in appearance.. it's composition however is dramatically different.....

you want to know what chi really is? okay...it's:

energy that is manipulated into a destructive force.. a person's own mind body and spirit coming together on a focused point and released at will...

In he real world: through the use of chi people have been able to shatter through 6 feet of solid ice, with nothing more than a palm tap... chi manipulation can also help to heal internal injuries, negate pain, and through a more dangerous use... makes people sick, and even on some occasions literally explode organs with but a touch...

Chi works using a series of various lines of energy in one's body called meridians.. when all the meridians flow in one fluid direction the chi wielder becomes capable of superhuman feats..

^^^ these are all real world examples too...

the chi used in the sf realm works on the same principles.. if it was as simple as electricity.. ryu would just shock himself to power up roll eyes (sarcastic)

the fact of the matter is that his energy IS NOT under your control.. but you ARE gonna take it..... take it in one gigantic blast to the face that will render your powers, strength, and arms totally useless and leave you completely open for the helmet trick... you're still losing....

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Bio-Energy instead of bio electric, then? Sounds good to me.

It's still energy. Electro is still nearly immune to all forms of energy.

I'll take it, and power myself up with it. big grin


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No, from what we can deduce, he grapple hook is non conductive. That's all.

In all his other appearances, he's never been immune.


when? when dh was already wounded? oh yes that's certainly a good level of comparison for this amalagmated version... roll eyes (sarcastic)

seriously... the electricity has to get past the battle aura.. the suits own bio shield (which in the new armor covers the entire body)... and on top of that.. the cord is made up of the same bio materials that the rest of the suit is.. thus if the cord is non conductive.. neither is the suit....

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What is it, then?

Its undefined in comics because WE don't even know what it is.

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when? when dh was already wounded? oh yes that's certainly a good level of comparison for this amalagmated version... roll eyes (sarcastic)

seriously... the electricity has to get past the battle aura.. the suits own bio shield (which in the new armor covers the entire body)... and on top of that.. the cord is made up of the same bio materials that the rest of the suit is.. thus if the cord is non conductive.. neither is the suit....

No, the suit isn't made of all the exact same thing, obviously. If it is, it isn't composed the same, meaning each part of his suit has different properties.

It's silly to think, it's even different colors ffs. You're reaching really reallllly hard for a reason not to lose. But you're still getting gutted, cut in half and electrocuted.


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Your whole strategy has been to "Dodge" everything....c'mon, do something impressive I'm getting bored.

I mean, it'd be a nice idea if you COULD dodge those things, but you can't, so whatcha gonna do brother?


And your whole strategy is to get close ground on me while stabbing me while chucking boxes at me, while coiling me, when all I have to do is blast you away with a hadoken...

not to mention the other part of your strategy, which would be hurting me with weapons that have proven not to hurt darkhawk already.. or touch spidey..

Already shown you Spidey 2099 can dodge those...

rolling on floor laughing

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Bio-Energy instead of bio electric, then? Sounds good to me.

It's still energy. Electro is still nearly immune to all forms of energy.

I'll take it, and power myself up with it. big grin


You're having some selective reading problems....

I think you missed this part of the explaination about what chi is...."energy that is manipulated into a destructive force.. "

You said you could absorb energy that's fine... but that has nothing to do with energy that's been focused into a literally destructive force... but sure... go ahead and try to absorb it.. it will only kill you really fast... but I have no obligations to that smile

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And your whole strategy is to get close ground on me while stabbing me while chucking boxes at me, while coiling me, when all I have to do is blast you away with a hadoken...

not to mention the other part of your strategy, which would be hurting me with weapons that have proven not to hurt darkhawk already.. or touch spidey..

Already shown you Spidey 2099 can dodge those...

rolling on floor laughing


You showed me Spidey dodging in zero G? eek! I must have missed it!

Uh, yeah, you didn't.

You can't dodge multiple heavy boxes AND dodge lasers AND dodge electricity bolts AND dodge 20meter adamantium coils AND dodge tenticals ALL at the same time, while floating around aimlessly WITHOUT a SPIDER SENSE. You're lying to yourself if you think you can.

When one of the adamantium boxed hits you(and they will), you're ****ed. Cuz then you're hit with another then another than electricity then 4 lasers then coils dig into you making it impossible for you to hide, electrocuting you. Then you die. Why? Because you can't heal, your damage soak SUCKS, one box should K.O you if it hits you right.


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Bio-Energy instead of bio electric, then? Sounds good to me.

It's still energy. Electro is still nearly immune to all forms of energy.

I'll take it, and power myself up with it. big grin


yes.. different colors obviously mean different material... roll eyes (sarcastic)

then clearly spiderman's red parts on his costume are made up of some ENTIRELY different material than the blue parts right? as indicated by colors right?

... no, it's the same material, because when iron man ran a check on the stuff it only came up as one alien substance that he'd never seen before... not multiple alien substances... the suit has one place of origin... is it so hard to believe it's made up of the same stuff?

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You showed me Spidey dodging in zero G? eek! I must have missed it!

Uh, yeah, you didn't.



Oh yeah, you showed me Doc Ock running, throwing boxes and shooting lazers in zero gravity right?

Uh, yeah, you didn't laughing

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You're having some selective reading problems....

I think you missed this part of the explaination about what chi is...."energy that is manipulated into a destructive force.. "

You said you could absorb energy that's fine... but that has nothing to do with energy that's been focused into a literally destructive force... but sure... go ahead and try to absorb it.. it will only kill you really fast... but I have no obligations to that smile

Electricity isn't a "destructive force"? GTFOH.

It's the same damn thing, all but by name and use.

Energy is energy, weither you manipulate it to be destructive or to heal, and I happen to be immune and or be in control over it.


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Oh yeah, you showed me Doc Ock running, throwing boxes and shooting lazers in zero gravity right?

Uh, yeah, you didn't laughing

But, unlike you, I am capable of doing such things in Zero G because of my levatation AND boosters control. You have nothing but web (Which will be melted) and spider touch (Which doesn't work while around electro).

You're guy is aimless like pollen.


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You can't dodge multiple heavy boxes AND dodge lasers AND dodge electricity bolts AND dodge 20meter adamantium coils AND dodge tenticals ALL at the same time, while floating around aimlessly WITHOUT a SPIDER SENSE. You're lying to yourself if you think you can.

When one of the adamantium boxed hits you(and they will), you're ****ed. Cuz then you're hit with another then another than electricity then 4 lasers then coils dig into you making it impossible for you to hide, electrocuting you. Then you die. Why? Because you can't heal, your damage soak SUCKS, one box should K.O you if it hits you right.


again.. you're just wasting time trying to magnetize things (again.. can vibranium even BE magnitized in the first place? cause magneto tried and it didn't work... but of course electro is better roll eyes (sarcastic) ) and float them over to me.... good it will leave you open for that super hadoken that's going to leave you incpacitated and nearly dead..

time it takes to magnetize boxes and float them over to my character>>>> time it takes to get blasted in face with a super hadoken...

and my damage soak sucks? ummmm no...i don't think so...... darkhawk took a barrage from iron man and just sat there talking to him unfazed...

spiderman 2099 has taken full on hulk2099 hits and just got up... he beat venom down in a h2h fight...

ryu takes boulder shattering punches withouth using his battle aura....

add all that on top of eachother and you think a few boxes are gonna be a big deal? NU..... UH....

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Electricity isn't a "destructive force"? GTFOH.

It's the same damn thing, all but by name and use.

Energy is energy, weither you manipulate it to be destructive or to heal, and I happen to be immune and or be in control over it.


By this notion a rocket and a grenade MUST be the same right? huh
You've got to face it.. chi works on a whole different level than what electro can deal with... spirit energy can't be absorbed unless it's by someone else who can use spirit energy... electro can't.. do the math...

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Again... being hit by boxes isn't even gonna be an issue here......

this fight's over as soon as I can say hado ken... literally...

... it's game over for you Dr Shocktopus smile

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And again, if you have anything powerful enough to vaporize titanium alloy along with two shields on top of energy immune body, you can't use it. It's illegal.

Game over indeed.

Be back later.


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And again, if you have anything powerful enough to vaporize titanium alloy along with two shields on top of energy immune body, you can't use it. It's illegal.

Game over indeed.

Be back later.


Not at all... there was a predefined limit on what the shield could and couldn't take when this tourny started.. but my character's able to get past that because of the no-limit on the power stacking that doesn't apply to the shields.. lol...

again going strictly by the rules hurts your case more than it helps..
If that's the case you're not getting past my bio field and battle aura.. then again.. it comes down to a h2h... that's just something you're not going to win....

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