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Was the "First Galactic Empire" truly the first galactic empire in the SW universe?
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Swirly Girl
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It all brews down to what you define as an "Empire". If an Empire requires an Emperor, then the Galactice Empire or possibly the Infinite Empire was the first true Empire. If not, then the GE was not the first Empire.


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Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
I swear we get all the super educated folks in this section of KMC. laughing out loud

You're right North, in FACT, Im shocked you havent been hired on at LFL or ILM yet. I mean a boy with your vast knowledge has got to be invaluable....................somewhere..........anyone else know where? huh
It's vaulable in the world of wiping Donald Trump's ass.

OF course, with North's extensive knowledge and deep reasoning of all that is designed for a King of the Hill episode, Trump would promote him to personal Jackoff.


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Re: Was the "First Galactic Empire" truly the first galactic empire in the SW universe?

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Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I'm asking cause didn't the Sith and/or "others" create an Empire in the universe as well, way before Palpatine did?

So how could Palpatine call it the 1st?

Just wanna know..


why do we care?

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Noone but the douche who created this thread gives a rats ass.

"Once more the Sith shall rule the galaxy."--Palpatine.

That doesn't mean it was Empire. The Infinite Empire we don't if it had an Emperor or not. The Ancient Sith Empire had no Emperor but it's ruler still had an impressive title. The Galactic Empire had an Emperor, but that doesn't mean it was the first Empire to exist, and only the second to rule the main sections of the galaxy.

The Rakata did that as well, it can be called a galactic empire 'cause it ruled throughout a galaxy. But Palpatine's empire was actually CALLED the Galactic Empire. That was its TITLE.


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Originally posted by FistOfThe North
What you wrote made me chuckle when you said i kept changing my mind, backpedalling, and pretending I didn't say stuff because I get caught out then your arguments become worthless. LOL!

I was trying to break down those false accusations to try understand you, but i could find anything because, well, cause you were lying...

But you're right, it's not up to me, but i also said "who knows" not me..It's definitely not up to you, so anything you say is invalid and baseless to me because you don't consider anything thats not canon. Open your shut mind. There are dozens of inconsistencies in SW. The blind, like you, cannot see them. And EU is official. The Movies are canon however.

Your opinion is that the 1st Galactic Empire started with Palp. And i say your wrong, and i forever will. Sorry. Now with that, the argument is done. And if your're gonna make up lies about a posters rebuttal, at least do it inconspicuously, lol


ok, honestly Ushgarak made this so amazingly clear...

GL says in the movies 2 things

1) The Sith once Ruled the galaxy
2) That the empire was 'the first galactic empire'

thats all there is too it...

EU is official? errr..ok, but its not canonically right.....so EU material isnt good enough to be used in this forum. I'm not going to explain it, its all stated here: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f38/t20461.html

read it, its very very simple

thats what it is, so live with it.

Palps empire WAS the first because thats what he said...lol

this isnt even open for argument, the sith once "ruled" the galaxy, but that in no way means an empire. the Sith probably did not rule with governmental authority like palpatines empire did. thats speculation but either way palpatines empire was the first, case closed.

go argue in the EU forums, because arguments that involve EU dont hold water around here, sorry buddy...


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Originally posted by Tangible God
Noone but the douche who created this thread gives a rats ass.

"Once more the Sith shall rule the galaxy."--Palpatine.

That doesn't mean it was Empire. The Infinite Empire we don't if it had an Emperor or not. The Ancient Sith Empire had no Emperor but it's ruler still had an impressive title. The Galactic Empire had an Emperor, but that doesn't mean it was the first Empire to exist, and only the second to rule the main sections of the galaxy.

The Rakata did that as well, it can be called a galactic empire 'cause it ruled throughout a galaxy. But Palpatine's empire was actually CALLED the Galactic Empire. That was its TITLE.


Tangible, i wont lower myself to your allycat ways because if i do you'll turn chick and report me and get me banned as you did before, ya snitch.

Like i said, women like yourself, insult due to a low vocabulary/income/class and victim mentality. And i always thought to severly insult someone over the net that you don't know was always coward-like. It's like talking behinds someone back or insulting from far away, hidden.

If i said the insults you said, i be banned permanently, no matter.

anyhow, Tangible stay the F out if you don't like the thread, simple as that, but i bet you'll report me now for saying "F", eh? lol go ahead....i've been banned before. Im ready.

If no one but me cares are your on it, why the hell are you responding to it. C'mon.

cool I'm ready, dude...go tell.


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Re: Re: Was the "First Galactic Empire" truly the first galactic empire in the SW universe

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Originally posted by DrDoom101
why do we care?



Who said anything about caring, lol

i could give 2 snots if you do, lol

the question's for whoever does wanna answer it.

You didnt wanna answer, so buzz off.



big grin


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Dude seriously, it's obvious you aren't going to win this argument. Go try your case at MF.com. I'm sure they'd be happy to see it "your" way.

You can't expect to come in here and win a case based on the EU when this is primarily a canonical forum. It's not going to happen. And saying people that don't agree with you are below you only goes to show how little class you actually have. Next time you decide to insult someone by saying
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Like i said, women like yourself, insult due to a low vocabulary/income/class and victim mentality
make sure its not people that have a degree, and actual lives, because it makes you look, well, just stupid and insipid.


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Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
And saying people that don't agree with you are below you only goes to show how little class you actually have.

Next time you decide to insult someone by saying make sure its not people that have a degree, and actual lives, because it makes you look, well, just stupid and insipid.


Didn't i tell you to shoo and go cook or clean or something..lol

women..

anyhow, where does it say to disagree with me is to be below me..?Provide proof. I said to insult is to be below me, ..be a good little girl and go back, reread the post and tell me when i said that...If you can't do that, you've become even more invalid than you are now, woman.

If you can't do that you're, in your witty word, stupid.

lmao..

oh yea, and a liar...i love it..


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So just how many cars and couches do you have out on your front lawn Fist? Because that's really where your mentality seems to come from.

BTW thanks for the compliment "little girl" seeing as Im 99% sure Im old enough to be your mama. laughing out loud


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Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
So just how many cars and couches do you have out on your front lawn Fist? Because that's really where your mentality seems to come from.

BTW thanks for the compliment "little girl" seeing as Im 99% sure Im old enough to be your mama. laughing out loud


Cars? couches? wtf!? lmao..my lawn?..wow, just wow.

You again..see women insert emotions and insults into topics that's why all this crap started cause of you, lol ok..

1st of all, my lawn, ..lmoa....omg, why am i even answering back...lol

laughing


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You cant have an intellectual discussion when one of the parties (you) lacks the intellect to have said conversation. And why ARE you replying? Odd that is, for someone who says they arent emotionally invested in this conversation.

And just in case the lawn remark went over your head.....means you sound like a type of male who expects his women to be barefoot and pg.


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Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
You cant have an intellectual discussion when one of the parties (you) lacks the intellect to have said conversation.

And why ARE you replying? Odd that is, for someone who says they arent emotionally invested in this conversation.

And just in case the lawn remark went over your head.....means you sound like a type of male who expects his women to be barefoot and pg.


1. lol, you're the one using ad hominem attacks on me instead or rational ones. Ad hominem attacks on one's opponent are a tried-and-true strategy for people who have a case that is weak.

2. Im replying simply because you telling me something, directed at me.
whether it's direct or indirect. There are no emotions. In fact, in a way, you're asking me to reply by speaking of and to me.

3. And i dont expect women to be barefoot and.....i cant believe this...lol this is crazy. this is Star Wars, not frikken Oprah...lmao

laughing out loud


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- Alex Collier Interview

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Lets examine the quality of the threads you've started in your short KMC career.



Was the "First Galactic Empire" truly the first galactic empire in the SW universe?
you got your answer and then whined like a baby when it wasnt the one you wanted.


Does Palpatine lie in ep.3? If so, what lie did he tell?
did you even watch the movie? I mean seriously, my 12 year old managed to figure this out.

In Ep3, when Sidious says.........
erm what?

Which was a better movie: The Empire Strikes Back or Revenge of the Sith?
wouldnt be a bad Q had it not been asked 30 times already


In Ep. 3, when Palpatine says.....
what AGAIN?


Based on the above material, it's rather obvious that you have no clue what you are talking about now do you? So I will leave you with this, I've enjoyed this little banter but unfortunately you have started to sound very much like when the teacher talks on the Charlie Brown tv specials. bwoa bwoa bwoa........and it's lost its allure.

Have fun out there. smile


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Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Lets examine the quality of the threads you've started in your short KMC career.



Was the "First Galactic Empire" truly the first galactic empire in the SW universe?
you got your answer and then whined like a baby when it wasnt the one you wanted.


Does Palpatine lie in ep.3? If so, what lie did he tell?
did you even watch the movie? I mean seriously, my 12 year old managed to figure this out.

In Ep3, when Sidious says.........
erm what?

Which was a better movie: The Empire Strikes Back or Revenge of the Sith?
wouldnt be a bad Q had it not been asked 30 times already


In Ep. 3, when Palpatine says.....
what AGAIN?


Based on the above material, it's rather obvious that you have no clue what you are talking about now do you? So I will leave you with this, I've enjoyed this little banter but unfortunately you have started to sound very much like when the teacher talks on the Charlie Brown tv specials. bwoa bwoa bwoa........and it's lost its allure.

Have fun out there. smile


lol, women..


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- Alex Collier Interview

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Lets examine the quality of the threads you've started in your short KMC career.



Was the "First Galactic Empire" truly the first galactic empire in the SW universe?
you got your answer and then whined like a baby when it wasnt the one you wanted.


Does Palpatine lie in ep.3? If so, what lie did he tell?
did you even watch the movie? I mean seriously, my 12 year old managed to figure this out.

In Ep3, when Sidious says.........
erm what?

Which was a better movie: The Empire Strikes Back or Revenge of the Sith?
wouldnt be a bad Q had it not been asked 30 times already


In Ep. 3, when Palpatine says.....
what AGAIN?


Based on the above material, it's rather obvious that you have no clue what you are talking about now do you? So I will leave you with this, I've enjoyed this little banter but unfortunately you have started to sound very much like when the teacher talks on the Charlie Brown tv specials. bwoa bwoa bwoa........and it's lost its allure.

Have fun out there. smile

I'm suprised how many so called "adults", have not yet mastered the use of the Shift key. Strange, huh?


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Originally posted by FistOfThe North
What you wrote made me chuckle when you said i kept changing my mind, backpedalling, and pretending I didn't say stuff because I get caught out then your arguments become worthless. LOL!

I was trying to break down those false accusations to try understand you, but i could find anything because, well, cause you were lying...

But you're right, it's not up to me, but i also said "who knows" not me..It's definitely not up to you, so anything you say is invalid and baseless to me because you don't consider anything thats not canon. Open your shut mind. There are dozens of inconsistencies in SW. The blind, like you, cannot see them. And EU is official. The Movies are canon however.

Your opinion is that the 1st Galactic Empire started with Palp. And i say your wrong, and i forever will. Sorry. Now with that, the argument is done. And if your're gonna make up lies about a posters rebuttal, at least do it inconspicuously, lol


That's pretty dumb. That's not MY opinion, it's George Lucas'. Against which yours doesn't matter one tiny whit. That Palps' was first is not opinion, it is fact.

Now, our policy about EU is clearly posted for you. If you don't like it... tough. But it is our policy, and you have no business joining this place and then criticising us for it.

Get over this, FOTN. According to the films, you are wrong. Live with it. If you continue these whiny rants of yours just because you have been caught out as you have been, you will get a warning.

Your attempt to say I am lying is just so spectacularly untrue, as everyone can see, as to be almost hysterical. It's just something you have randomly said without any rationality or logic whatsoever. As I say, everyone else can clearly see where you contradictd yourself as you backpedalled away. Your posts will remain there forever, for everyone to read and see it. You can't just undo that.

Contribute usefully to a thread or do not contribute at all, please.

This question has been answered, and FOTN's attitude has simply made the thread sink into pointlessness. Closed.


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