magneto turn Hulk into Banner?... ...I should have seen that coming...Gamma rays are composed of actual particles and have a measurable nuclear mass...thats what makes them so destructive...i dont think that this component falls into the electromagnetic spectrum...I will have to ask one of my professors what they think...Just because magneto has power over the EM spectrum doesnt mean that he has unlimited power over it...if this were the case, like I mentioned earlier, he would be able move stars around the galaxy at the speed of light like molecule man after the secret wars
give me an actual 'comic book' that magneto 'controls' gamma rays...please. gamma is radiation...just like x-rays, and all the other kinds of rays. electromagnetism (according to astrophysics and einstien) and radiation are two different kinds of energies...IN FACT. according to einstien and astrophysics...there are only 3 (THREE) kinds of energies in astro physics. the 1st and 'seemingly' the most powerful (though it is to be argued) is called the 'G-force'. this is the force that holds all the planets, galaxies and stars in place and in thier orbits. the 2nd kind is called the Strong Force or 'Electromagnetism'. (which is basically electricity in all its forms.) the 3rd kind of energy found in astrphysics is called the Weak Force or 'Radiation' radiation would be all the rays and infared and ultr violate, sound waves. though, electro magnetism seems to be the strongest (with the old science axample of a guy falling off a building, the long fall takes a long time for him to finally reach the street below, and he gradually gains energy and spped the longer and faster he falls...but it isnt gravity that kills him...it is the electromagnetic force that kills him in a single instant...while gravity to took so long to build up energy, electro magnetism stopped the power of gravity in but an instant.)
that is one way to look at it...but on the opposite end of the spectrum, gravity is the only force in our universe able to penetrate the membrane of our universe and actually enter into different dimensions and differen parallel universe some iof which may have completely different set of laws than our own. nothin else in our uiverse can travel between parallel universes .
i am demonstrating, according to einstein, that gravity is really the strongest of the 3 forces...and that electromagnetism and radiation are, in fact, two different things. and that magnetos powers are NOT able to control radiation of any kinds. and dont say that magneto controls his powers via quantum mechanics rather than astro physics, because if that was true, magneto would have no powers because nothing can predict or control electro magnetism at the sub atomic level. that is why it is so violent and unpredictable when you get to the sub atomic level...there is no 'math' formula that explains away all the anomolies of quantum mechs...meanwhile, einstien, has already proved the physics of our universe with mathmatical formulas.
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I didn't make them up, Magneto has control over Electromagnitism and all related energies. Last time I checked(yesterday), polarized molecules(found in the human body) were held together by electromagnetism, which Magneto controls. EVERYTHING I have said that Magneto has the potential to do, he actually DOES have the potential to do it with his powers. You were pulling gravity and parrallel universes out of your ass.
Yes, they are two different things, but that does not mean that they are not RELATED. They ARE. Comic books and novels are two different things, but they are in fact related. Do you see the analogy??
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oh...so magneto can control all kinds of energies now?...OK. if you look at *** that way, then gravity is alo related to the other kinds of enerdies...can magneto controll gravity too? can magneto control light itslef as well? if this was the case...then the x men wouldnt have beaten magneto a hundred thousand times, and magneto would have already enslaved mankind and a\had already created his ideal earth. as well as possessing the powers to completely create reality like arachnoidfreak keeps arguing, with no real 'comic book' issues to back him up.
and NO i DEFINETELY DO NOT see 'your' analogy between, novels and comic books AND electromagnetism and radiation at all...please explain how radiation and electromagnetism are related...(according to astrophysics of course)
The ability to control electromagnetism and all related energies is ACTUALLY IN HIS ****ING PROFILE.
"Although Magneto's primary power is magnetism, he seems to have some ability to project or manipulate any form of energy that is related to magnetism. In the past he has fired a bolt of electricity, he has also created enough intense heat to destroy a metal door. Heat, or infrared radiation, is part of the electromagnetic spectrum, which also includes visible light, radio waves, ultraviolet light, gamma-rays, and x-rays. Magneto may be able to project any of these. He has also been shown creating an anti-gravity field, and presumably does so whenever he levitates a non-magnetic object. Hence, Magneto may be living proof of the longsought Unified Field Theory that all forms of energy are related. However, Magneto almost always uses only magnetism, so perhaps it is more difficult for him to manipulate other forms of energy."[http://www.marveldirectory.com/indi...s/m/magneto.htm]
Please, read ALL of my posts, and make sure you can understand them.
Know why he doesn't win all the time? HE'S A VILLAIN. VILLAINS NEVER WIN. Or, haven't you noticed? Did that escape your keen eye for observations too?
Please, tell me you have heard of the Unified Field Theory. If you haven't, google it. www.google.com
Oh, and here:
a·nal·o·gy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-nl-j)
n. pl. a·nal·o·gies
1. Similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar.
2. A comparison based on such similarity. See Synonyms at likeness
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you go Arachnoidfreak! you remind me of....well........me when i just started on this forum. full of fire, and vim and not afraid to break out the dictionary.
Calm down, i´m tired of reading your posts, first of all how the **** would hulk built a city in space, no ****ing way.
second gravity is NOT the strongest force of the 3, actually electromagnetism is way more strong then gravity, we discuss that in the magneto vs graviton forum, go pick it up.
Calling us fanboys, who´s the fanboy now?
Electromagnitism is related to the other Fundamental Forces of Nature, JUST AS Comic books are related to all other literature.
Do you see the analogy now? Electromagnetism IS NOT Gravity, it is NOT Strong or weak nuclear forces, but they are all RELATED. A comic book is NOT a novel, and it is NOT a play, but it IS literature, they are related.
ALL matter is held together by electromagnetism. ALL of it. You know, protons and electrons? Those little positively and negatively chared particles that are in EVERY ATOM IN THE UNIVERSE? Electromagnetism is the glue that hold these things together.
if you would have read my previous post, i sid that electro magnetisim (also called the strong force) is the strongest...then i demonstrated on the opposite scale the fact that only gravity can travl interdimensionally...so in a sense, gravity IS in fact stronger that the other energies. especially when electricity and magnetism neutrilize each other. all the electro magnetism energies in our known universe could never tear a hole or 'travel' to parallel universes. in fact...in theory...there is really only one force governing our universe it just acts in different ways, but unison together. but this isnt proven. also...the nuclear elements in bruce banner's gamma radiation experiemnts work together...magneto has NOOOOO power over ANYTHING nuclear.
ok, your analogy is weak.
in that case....then everything is RELATED to one another in our universe...which it is...in a very basic and fundamental way./..but get any more technical...and your theory sounds like kindergarden. nice try though. comic book and novels both have words so i gues they are related. your right ...i didnt take the 'elementary school approach' analyzing your 'theory'.
anyway...at least i dont blame the writers for the reason why my fav character (in your case mags) always looses so much. dont you think that if it would be a good fight, even in the slightest, marvel would have paired them up by now? there is a reason they never fought...it is not a fair fight...that is like have silver surfer fighting human torch. please...it wouldnt make good reading.
hulk could build a city in space no prob...and it would be technologically advanced too.
Everybody forgot me! I said that The HULK has focused powers, whilst elctromagnetics are unfocused. Electromagnetism may hold the universe together, but we use nuclear as it's stronger. Atom bomb v Elctromagnets. He has exceeded nuclear, as nomsans gave an example of when he beat antimatter reactors, which are hundreds of times stronger. In power terms, Hulk wins.
How the HELL do you figure Hulk can make a city in space?
Of course it wouldn't be an interesting fight, Magneto would dominate. I already told you that Magneto doesn't deal with characters like the Hulk. Apparently, you skipped that part.
pleeeeeease...this connot be proven...hence its a 'theory'.
and i have ready many many books on the 'sring theory' and the 'm theory'...though you can NEVER prove it is more than a theory. that is why there are so many leading scientists that are sceptics and dismiss the m theory all together because it can never be proven in a 'real' scientific experiement. othe than the M or 'string' theory, you cannot tie in all the energies of the universe in one equation...always always always gravity gets in the way,. while, in theory and mather, the m theory is the best weve got to go on about 'unifying' all the universes energies into one 'formula'...it is a far cry from provern FACT.
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...I should have seen that coming...Gamma rays are composed of actual particles and have a measurable nuclear mass...thats what makes them so destructive...i dont think that this component falls into the electromagnetic spectrum...I will have to ask one of my professors what they think...Just because magneto has power over the EM spectrum doesnt mean that he has unlimited power over it...if this were the case, like I mentioned earlier, he would be able move stars around the galaxy at the speed of light like molecule man after the secret wars
