Yahman, btw, I thought your Strength System posted in another thread was superior to Marvel's. Rating = 6
1 - Way worse than Marvel's; totally incomprehensible
2 - Somewhat worse than Marvel's; partially comprehensible
3 - Slightly, barely worse; Marvel is lesser of the two evils
4 - Same as Marvel's; why'd ya go to the trouble?
5 - Slightly better; shows promise
6 - Much better; makes far more sense in so many ways
7 - Perfect; give Marvel a call
Hey, if I gave you a 7, you'd have nothing to look forward to
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Level 1 (Normal): A being who can Lift between 0~60 kg or anything under their own body weight. These people engage in moderate exercise (sometimes any way).
E.G. Me
Level 2(Peak Human): A being who can lift between their own body weight and twice their own body weight (80~300kg). This can be seen as athletic strength as those placed in this category take part in regular and strenuous exercise. N.B in the marvel universe 800 pounds is taken as the peak human level as any one who can lift over 800 pounds is considered Meta human.
E.G. Gambit, Cyclops, Batman
Level 3 (Enhanced Human): Beings at this level are considered as having strength that goes beyond the physical limits set by the human body. Usually an external element is involved increasing the strength.
E.G. Wolverine, Captain Ammerica
Level 4 (Superhuman Strength 1.): Characters at this level are depicted as having a lower form of Super Human Strength. They are often illustrated physically overpowering those at the Enhanced Human level and are shown performing feats that can only be duplicated by machinery or numerous individuals. They are portrayed at a lower level as there are various beings that can physically outmatch them.
E.G. Spiderman, Bane, Green Goblin
Level 5 (Superhuman Strength 2.): The Characters are still shown as having a lower form of super strength but are often portrayed as being superior to those at Level 4.
E.G. Carnage, Rogue, Smallville Superman
Level 6 (Mythical Beats Strength): The characters are generally considered by readers and writers as having strength that greatly exceeds the Superhuman level. Even in the fictional universes these characters are still perceived as being immensely strong. Although the exact limits of the characters strength are unknown, many are likely to be on par with heavy lifting devices. (The respective weights involved are therefore still within the boundaries of realism.) Although some may be able to perform feats that in a conventional universe are physically impossible. Note that the all of the characters are widely regarded as being weaker than those at the unearthly level. Although several have inconsistently displayed strength that would normally be associated as Demi God.
E.G. Thing, Rhino,
Level 7 ( Demi God Strength): In order to be regarded as having Unearthly strength, the character must regularly exhibit power FAR beyond the Mythical Beast level. Some of the characters have shown that they can surpass the immense strength of modern age heavy machinery. Many have illustrated feats that should be physically impossible due to their huge weight. Other’s have shown that they can match (and sometimes surpass) these individual’s in combat. Although the upper limits of the person’s strength remains a mystery we can gauge their strength by analysing their respective feats for reliability and accuracy. The consistency of the character performance is also noted.
E.G. Wonderman, Superboy, Mortal Herc, Abomination
Level 8 ( God Strength): These characters are usually illustrated as having superior strength to those at the Demi God level. Although regular fluctuations in their strength has made it difficult to gauge. Others have inconsistently displayed strength that truly dwarfs the standard Demi God Level. E.G. Infrequently demonstrating feats that can only be performed regularly by beings with Cosmic Might. Some have also performed impressive feats which are hard to measure against other universes (The denting of Captain America’s shield, the bending of Admantium).
E.G. Thor, Superman, Wonder Woman, Silver Surfer
Level 9 (Titan Strength): The Characters at this level are generally accepted as having strength that even surpasses the God Level. They Consistently exhibit strength at an impressive Demi God level without showing any form of physical exertion. They have also exhibited feats that can only be performed regularly by beings with Cosmic Might. Other’s at this level have shown that they can physically match (and sometimes surpass) these individual’s in combat.
E.G. Despero, Mangog, Destroyer, Kurse, Extreme Rage /Hulk, Thanos, King Thor, Odin, Pre Crisis Darksied,
Level 10 (Cosmic Might): In order to be regarded as having Level 10 strength, the being in question must have power on a truly incalculable scale. Although the limits of the beings strength have not been measured it is widely agreed (by writers and readers) that their strength is truly immeasurable. Note that such characters rarely exercise their physical strength, but if they chose to there would probably be no limit to what they could lift/move. (Note that ‘power inflation’ can lead to any being having level 10 strength.
Last edited by R.O.T. Yahman on Oct 3rd, 2005 at 08:46 PM
Strength: 3
Speed: 3
Stamina: 3
Durability: 4
Agility: 5
Intelligence: 2
Fighting Ability: 6(Marvel lists him as 5, but he deserves to be 6)
Mental Powers: 2
Energy Projection: 2
Strength: 7
Speed: 7
Stamina: 6
Durability: 6(Series 4 stats list him as 7, but I think it should be at 6)
Agility: 3
Intelligence: 2
Fighting Ability: 4
Mental Powers: 2
Energy Projection: 6
Strength: 4(Variable, if he can get enough momentum or torque, he can be pretty strong)
Speed: 3
Stamina: 3
Durability: 5
Agility: 2
Intelligence: 6
Fighting Ability: 3
Mental Powers: 2
Energy Projection: 1
Strength: 4- I agree
Speed: 3- I agree
Stamina: 4- i agree but he once lasted a few days against molurn
Durability:4- i agree but his healing factor is terrible compared to most
Agility: 6- I agree
Intelligence: 4- I disagree, webshooters when u r a teenager? genius!
Fighting Ability: 4- I agree
Mental Powers: 2- He might be a 3 now he talks to bugs
Energy Projection: 2- I disagree he doesnt need to be on contact to fire the web.........
If it was at 7, he wouldn't get beat as much. Yes he can regenerate from near total disintegration, but he can be KO'd by guys like Abomination, Titannus? I knew it said 7 their.
Your acting so much like Whirly I swear you would fit well into his immediate family and vice versa.
All of those listed as 2's for energy projection have the ability to tap chi, the very same way Shang or Iron Fist do, and it says 2 for most of their stats. But unfortunately most of them don't. I don't think web is considered energy.
im glad sentry posted the definitive measureing scale that marvel now uses. it sorta gives me relief when somebody, who shall remain namless, was jumping down my throat that Beast can only lift two tons despite the fact that he is class 5 *whew*: [breathes sigh of relief]
He also has flown to the Sun and back in less than two minutes which would put him at a 7 in speed. His durabiltiy should be 7 also. Nothing has destroyed him so far and hes survived alot of stuff from being submerged into the Sun and surviving nukes.
Sentry also has him at a 3 in fighting which he should be atleast a 4 cause he mastered Kryptonian martial arts.
But I realize those are his opinions so its all good.
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I'd say Supes speed is variable since he gets more amped up the closer he is to the sun. He was skirting the surface when he flew Darkseid to the Source wall. Usually, it's 99% the speed of light. Of course his strength varies too but it's always at a level 7 so it doesn't matter.
I definitely agree on the 4's for Intelligence and Fighting Ability though.
So everyone from the likes of Spiderman through the classic Whizzer are ranked at 2? No. The rank 3 for speed is peak human up to 700mph. Guys like Wolverine, Spiderman, etc... move faster than normal.
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