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Galan007
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Originally posted by Daredevil1
Cap showed he could bench 1100 lbs easily, so it still doesn't show as you say superior feats. http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?...402ocd045do.jpg
according to leading physicians and trainers, a good athlete (as ult cap is) can bench roughly 3x more then they can curl 595x3= 1,785........but thats way off the subject lol!


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Issue #5:

Here's cap dropping a tank on Hulk:
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Hulk vs. Cap:
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After that point, he pretty much gets beaten on by Hulk, but it was pretty awesome anyway. And if he would've moved just one second faster he would've been able to inject him and stop him altogether.

He takes a pretty bad beating
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and even this beating from an enraged Hulk didnt really hurt ult cap too bad


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and according to leading physicians and trainers, a good athlete (as cap is) can bench roughly 3x more then they can curl 595x3= 1,785........but thats way off the subject




Point is it showed Cap curling 500lbs with Beast in training so 595 isn't superior at all.

And here's Cap fighting Ironman. Notice Cap stunns Iroman and takes a beat down.

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Ult cap lifting a tree trunk, much more impressive then what 616 cap has lifted:

http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?...itled5154zw.jpg


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ive posted my argument...... and i dont care to argue this anymore

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Ult cap lifting a tree trunk, much more impressive then what 616 cap has lifted:



Not really.

Here Cap catches thick moving torpedo.
http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?...ry2page046s.jpg

Here Cap holds up lots of rubble(read narration.
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Here Cap impressed Thor/Iroman as they are both holding him down and feeling Cap's strength.
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Here Cap tackles down the big three Thor, Iroman, and Giantman.
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?...sv1009033oc.jpg

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Cap vs some of Marvels HEAVY weights.

Early in his carrer in Avengers he faught Powerman.
1st fight he was handicapped and as his speed was slown down. As he took some nasty hits from Powerman.

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Second fight Cap loses but he was able to hurt Powerman this time.

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Third fights the charm with the KO from Cap.

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Errrmmm....not that Im debating who would win in a fight, but those plates didn't look like any 45's I've ever worked out with. Most people that've been to a big gym know that the general weights are 5's, 10's, 25's, 35's (sometimes, sometimes not), 45's, and then hundred pound plates (mainly used for leg press machines, or the really big benchers).

Those things looked a helluva lot closer to hundred pound plates than fourty five's. But maybe it's just me.


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Nope those look like standard 45's.

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Nope those look like standard 45's.


If you say so. I lift damn near every day, and those look too thick to be fourty-fives. If you compare a fourty five to a hundred pound plate, you'll notice they don't have a much larger radius, they're just much thicker. Those are definitely too thick to be fourty five's.

Not to mention, look how tall that fuggin tree was! Whaddya think? Twenty times as tall as the men in the picture? 120 foot? 44% as tall as some of the tallest Sequoias. You know, one of the redwoods liked for it's LIGHT WEIGHT?

Yeah.

Guess how much that would make it weigh? Over a thousand tons.

Not saying that Ultimate Captain America is a thousand tonner, but that he realistically supported the crashing weight of a thousand ton tree.

Not that 616 wasn't buried under "countless thousands of tons" of debris as a building fell on top of him, but digging through that much weight is hardly the same as catching it on it's fall. erm.


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If you say so. I lift damn near every day, and those look too thick to be fourty-fives. If you compare a fourty five to a hundred pound plate, you'll notice they don't have a much larger radius, they're just much thicker. Those are definitely too thick to be fourty five's.



Nope, my brother constanly works out at a gym, and he even told me those look like 45 lb plates. Plus its not like you have a quote from the book and we should assume its the standard, since thats what they look like anyways.

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Yeah.

Guess how much that would make it weigh? Over a thousand tons.

Not saying that Ultimate Captain America is a thousand tonner, but that he realistically supported the crashing weight of a thousand ton tree.

Not that 616 wasn't buried under "countless thousands of tons" of debris as a building fell on top of him, but digging through that much weight is hardly the same as catching it on it's fall.



He wasn't digging though, in the scans that I provide he held up a good portion as well.

Plus the other feats as well.

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Nope, my brother constanly works out at a gym, and he even told me those look like 45 lb plates. Plus its not like you have a quote from the book and we should assume its the standard, since thats what they look like anyways.


http://www.fitness-equipment.com/ac...___Sets_11.html

Let the folk's make their own decision.

Besides, who is to say that hundred pound plates aren't standard? They're all over my gym.


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i will have to give it to wolverine 8/10


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Agreed it is hard to tell but no quotes from book then just assumption. Just assumption, means just opinion. Means that feat is impressive but irrelevant.

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Errrmmm....not that Im debating who would win in a fight, but those plates didn't look like any 45's I've ever worked out with. Most people that've been to a big gym know that the general weights are 5's, 10's, 25's, 35's (sometimes, sometimes not), 45's, and then hundred pound plates (mainly used for leg press machines, or the really big benchers).

Those things looked a helluva lot closer to hundred pound plates than fourty five's. But maybe it's just me.
thats what i thought when i first saw them, but i just wanted to give the lowest possible weight it would be, which is still more then 616 cap ever have claimed to curl


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Ultimate Cap would smash Earth-616 Wolverine's head off with his shield.

He's just that much more hard-core.


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Ironman gave him this beating and he was severly injured, and hardly able to stand...... When Hulk (who is much stronger then Ironman) beat the crap out of Ult Cap he was hardly injured, in fact after the beating; Ult cap was up and giving tactical orders in the next pannel like he wasnt hurt at all, which shows how durable he is:

He takes a pretty bad beating
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Tactical genius:
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