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I am very much against death penalty there have been proven cases of people being sent to their deaths who were later proved innocent. You can never be 100% certain - 100% certainty is the only situation in which I would approove death being the answer
i agree with that phoenix, if the criminal is proved guilty without any question for somthing like killing some kids for instance then i think that person should be sentanced to death but u can only be 100% if they confess IMO
thats very true so when can u be 100% certain that somone is guilty? obviously never so if they only put the death penalty to use when 100% sure then it will never be used?
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the only person who can ever be 100% is the criminal and their victims, and even that is not in every case - eg. intoxication, couldn't see, insanity, didn't know what they were doing. All these things add up, so its very difficult to ever be 100% certain. Thats why I think prison is better, you have nearly certainly jailed a guilty person, but you have not possibly killed an innocent one.
yeah i must say i was in full support of the death penatly but reading what the 3 of us has said im starting to change my mind well done uve changed me
indeed prison mite be better than being put to the death penalty but i think sometimes prison is too good ... the get privalges ,bail, and many other things .. so really they are living a normal life just away from home .... and in the same place for wot mayb the rest of there lifes .. some thing needs to be don to show that wot they did was a crime ..
I thk they have it tooo nice in prison, they shldn't be able to watch tv, or get on the puters, thats whats wrng w/the justice system. I don't believe in the death penalty, but I do thk our justice system needs to be worked on.
Are you talking about the William Goad who got the head wound in Vietnam and robbed a fireworks store and shot a bunch of people, or a different William Goad?
And prison sucks, I dont care if they do have radios or a tv. Shower rape anybody? They is prison with tv and vcrs, and there is prison that is "Nice ass Turbo-Cajun, lets ****.... now touch your toes." If you commit a henious act, you will pay for it if you do time.
I agree there bad people who I wish would die for did, but I think that there is no government able to fairly administer it as a criminal sentence. The death sentence just becomes one more example of economic inequality within the criminal justice system. If you can afford the lawyers you get life, if you can't you end up on death row. Not to mention things like racism or racial inequality in sentencing. Places like Texas have demonstrated that we are unable to apply the death sentence fairly in the US. The state of Texas conducts more illegal executions of prisoners [ie: retarded people, those under the age of 18, and foriegn nationals without councillor rights] than any other industrialised nation.
1) Ask Lil Bitchiness to show you the list of countries that have it don’t have it. You’ll see that countries still using the death-penalty are often dictatorships.
2) You run the risk of executing an innocent. There are plenty of cases where later DNA-tests have revealed that an executed guy didn’t DO it. With even the slightest risk of this, the death-penalty shouldn’t be used.
3) It’s barbaric. One thing is a society that fosters mass-murderers, another is a country saying “murder is wrong, ergo we punish murder with murder.”
Many people on death-row are crazy.
Actually… Would a sane person EVER commit a murder??
No, think about it before you answer. I’ve mused about this from time to time… And come to the conclusion that the answer is “no”. Anyone who sets out to KILL someone, deliberately, is insane.
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“Why dont you go back and have a look at which countries still practice death penalty? That will tell you a lot.” – Lil Bitchiness
What ….what will it tell? Will it tell that death penalty “crimes” are not made by the same person??? Or that the US isn’t the only country “practicing” the death penalty???
Critically pointing a finger at one country that “practices” the DP (the US in particular) because “their” crime rate is to high for your standards is biased. In the past ten years, the number of executions in the U.S. has increased while the murder rate has declined. The US crime rate last year held steady at the lowest levels. In 2003, one-quarter of all violent crimes were committed by a (repeat) OFFENDER armed with a gun, knife or other weapon. (Released to commit yet another violent crime how wise, damn those anti-death penalty states) U.S, Violent crime rate has dropped in every income category by at least 40 percent between 1993 -2003. And yet we are still allowed our guns and death penalty…hmmm…. shouldn’t those rates have increased according to you??
Gun Control’s still failing in UK - Murder Rates Skyrocketing uh-oh
hmm “Your” solution doesn’t seem to be working either, increasing VIOLENT crimes murder rates skyrocketing isn’t acceptable right? I think I want to keep my countries “barbaric” death penalty ways and use of fire arms…. there is NO real solid solution for riding the world of violent/murdering criminals, those bastards are everywhere and should be EXTERMINATED, which ever way possible. D.P Criminals are like roaches one “dies” another 5 will pop up to replace him. Countries practicing the DP shouldn’t be judged because of those roaches…(YES I compared “death penalty” criminals to roaches)
But then again we here in the US are getting too fat and lazy from all our visits to McDonalds to commit violent crimes we cant maintaining our HIGH crime rate any more ……Hey MAYBE just maybe pigging-out at McDonalds is the ultimate answer.
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Hmmm, its a hard thing to see, I mean, I can imagine how a victim of a heinous crime can want ultimate retribution, but having never experienced a crime of such a nature, I don't feel quite the same, I like to think a problem can be solved with out descending to the level of the murderer, an eye for an eye. And yes, there is a good chance a innocent might loose there life. So I say its wrong. However, as I mentioned, I can see the logic of it. It is a powerful deterrent. Some people really do seem to deserve it, and I mean, use terrorism as an example, whole nations supported war enforced death penalties on the perpetrators of these terrible attacks. Did someone like Hitler deserve to die? If he had been cuaght alive that is? And this will sound cynical, but it is more efficient. Some crimanals commit crimes so terrible it is known they can never be released. The option is to a. maintain there imprisonment for the rest of their lives, something that will cost a huge amount of money and resources, resources which could go to better use somewhere else or b. state that they are officially lost to society, and utilise a death penalty.
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you know what? President bush is for the life program and the death penalty. he's an ass.
but the death penalty is so old and cliche.. i think we should just let the villans rot in jail.
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Sep 14th, 2004 02:12 PM
we'll debate those pro-deaths into the ground between the three of us! 
Ytaker agreed with me once on October 9th, 2004
we cant maintaining our HIGH crime rate any more 
……Hey MAYBE just maybe pigging-out at McDonalds is the ultimate answer. 
