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Originally posted by long pig
You sound like you're a high priced hooker.


lol

i'll bet he'll give you a good deal Piggy.... ten dolla, sucky sucky


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yes... but you'd miss by an even greater margin... so what would be the point?


Miss? Maybe. But that will still kick up a whole lot of sand in the process. That will dampen your sight, possibly blind you.

Oh wait! You have Spider Sense!!! You can see me and blast me while your blind! The thing is you will probably know where I am due to your spider sense since I'll be firing blast after blast of Electron and Neutron beams. Then again, you will only be able to fire into my general area. Your spider sense can only deal with a couple of things at once. Tracking me, while trying to dodge my E and N beam blasts, as well as my throwing blades and shurikens will certainly throw off your aim. As well cost you your amaglam's life.

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Originally posted by Scoobless
i doubt it, Spider-Man/Scarlet Spider deal with explosions all the time... think Green Goblin, Hob Goblin, Nitro, etc.... plus Grievous has been on so many battlefields that he probably wouldn't even flinch at a near miss


You probably wouldn't flinch. But the concussive force of the near miss will knock you on your ass. A couple of your arms are also unprotected by the armor, so you may also sustain damage to those two appendages. Or it would be also possible have a few of your lightsabers/wrist blasters damaged by the blast. You may be damn near invulnerable, but your light sabers aren't. Lose those, and it's a big advantage for me. Wait a minute, you probably already lost them. smile

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Originally posted by Scoobless
not really.... the armour will absorb the energy wave from a near miss fairly easily... you'd have to score a direct hit to do any damage... that or risk close quarter combat


Hey Scoob, take a look at this:

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Kull armor: The armor negates nearly all energy attacks, and severly dulls high-level energy attacks. It can be pierced by anything harder/sharper than hard forms of metal, but resists regular bullets. Repeated concussive force (punches, grenades, etc.) can and will jar the wearer significantly.[/B]


You see that? Repeated blast will jar you significantly. 3 or 4 near misses will probably disorient you. 50lbs of TNT like concussive force will generally do that to super powered jedi wannabes and Stargate SG-1 alien armor and eventually kill you. smile

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Originally posted by Scoobless
vibratory waves are just another form of energy that would be absorbed, and again, even if they did pierce the outer armour, they would be significantly slowed and wouldn't even scratch my body


Hmmmm.. Stopping my shurikens with a theoretical point of view. It's possible... Then again it might not. Shatterstar's weapons were forged in a dimension of science and magic... That's straight from X-Force #4. He was able to cut Juggernaut's Helmet loose. So your taking a big risk letting those shurikens and throwing blades hit you, especially while their resonating with vibratory shockwaves hoping your theoretical point of view will save you.


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lol

i'll bet he'll give you a good deal Piggy.... ten dolla, sucky sucky


Even with the discount I don't think lp could afford it.


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Even with the discount I don't think lp could afford it.


so.................. it's true............. confused

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Miss? Maybe. But that will still kick up a whole lot of sand in the process. That will dampen your sight, possibly blind you.


i doubt it... your beams don't cause explosions when they hit... it's just a lot of pressure into a punching type beam... it'll just pound into the sand rather than kick it up

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Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Oh wait! You have Spider Sense!!! You can see me and blast me while your blind! The thing is you will probably know where I am due to your spider sense since I'll be firing blast after blast of Electron and Neutron beams. Then again, you will only be able to fire into my general area. Your spider sense can only deal with a couple of things at once. Tracking me, while trying to dodge my E and N beam blasts, as well as my throwing blades and shurikens will certainly throw off your aim.


Spidey's hit many different moving targets with webs while under heavy fire .... my aiming wont be a problem

that plus i'm firing from four sources at once.... any of which can incapacitate you.... whereas you only have the one beam that could harm SC

i don't have to track you and dodge separately... it's all instinctual and happens simultaneously

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Originally posted by Adam Warlock
You probably wouldn't flinch. But the concussive force of the near miss will knock you on your ass.


where does it say that there would be any concussive force from a near miss

"The e-beam and n-beam have tremendous concussive power (on the order of 50 pounds of TNT at effective ranges of 75 feet)"

the TNT comparison doesn't mean the beam actually causes an explosion... just that getting hit by it is the equivalent of being at the centre of that level of explosion... when you continually miss me it'll just punch into the sand

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Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Repeated blast will jar you significantly. 3 or 4 near misses will probably disorient you.


unless you can show proof of any of Unicorn's beams causing explosions, this is all invalid

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Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Hmmmm.. Stopping my shurikens with a theoretical point of view. It's possible... Then again it might not. Shatterstar's weapons were forged in a dimension of science and magic... That's straight from X-Force #4. He was able to cut Juggernaut's Helmet loose. So your taking a big risk letting those shurikens and throwing blades hit you, especially while their resonating with vibratory shockwaves hoping your theoretical point of view will save you.


if they're a big risk the spider sense will warn me, but the fact that my armour is completely bullet proof and absorbs all known forms of energy lead me to strongly believe that your throwing stars are going to be useless against it..... not that you'd be able to see through the sand you'd be kicking up (while running in circles) to get a decent shot at aiming



trying to keep my responses brief so that people can get through the posts without losing interest

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i doubt it... your beams don't cause explosions when they hit... it's just a lot of pressure into a punching type beam... it'll just pound into the sand rather than kick it up


Sand will fly. Imagine Moses parting the Red Sea... Imagine an energy beam parting a Dune of sand... Sand will be everywhere. Thus impairing your vision. smile

Oh, check out this link and scroll down a bit:

http://www.ironmanarmory.com/biosoz.html

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Originally posted by Scoobless
Spidey's hit many different moving targets with webs while under heavy fire .... my aiming wont be a problem


With multiple blasts going around you and you being blind as a blind can be, the only thing you'll be hitting is sand. smile

Then again, you have multiple bullseyes on your body even though faint, I can decipher where to shoot from there.

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Originally posted by Scoobless
that plus i'm firing from four sources at once.... any of which can incapacitate you.... whereas you only have the one beam that could harm SC


How are you going to hit me with my shield up... Yeah, that's right, I have a shield. Check out that link. I was gonna save it for the finals but I like pulling new tricks out of thin air. Why can everyone else have shields and I can't? Sure I'll tone it down for this battle. but it looks like your plasma weapons ain't touching me. smile

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Originally posted by Scoobless
i don't have to track you and dodge separately... it's all instinctual and happens simultaneously


When things are done simultaneously, things are usually done half-assed

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Originally posted by Scoobless
where does it say that there would be any concussive force from a near miss

"The e-beam and n-beam have tremendous concussive power (on the order of 50 pounds of TNT at effective ranges of 75 feet)"

the TNT comparison doesn't mean the beam actually causes an explosion... just that getting hit by it is the equivalent of being at the centre of that level of explosion... when you continually miss me it'll just punch into the sand

unless you can show proof of any of Unicorn's beams causing explosions, this is all invalid


It doesn't say it anywhere in those bios. Check out Iron Man #4 Silver age run(1968). I think that's the one Iron Man is rocked by a near miss.

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Originally posted by Scoobless
if they're a big risk the spider sense will warn me, but the fact that my armour is completely bullet proof and absorbs all known forms of energy lead me to strongly believe that your throwing stars are going to be useless against it..... not that you'd be able to see through the sand you'd be kicking up (while running in circles) to get a decent shot at aiming


Again I'll see your energy sources, and that's all I need to see. You are lit up like a Christmas tree while your blinded by the sand. smile

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Originally posted by Scoobless
trying to keep my responses brief so that people can get through the posts without losing interest

smokin'


It's okay Scoob. Even the great ones fall.


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again... EAA cancels vibrations, bullet-proofness of armour prevents penetration (does that sound a bit weird) .... and, oh yeah, no skin to be penetrated, just tough alien alloy


It does sound weird. So basically you have no skin right? No flesh? No organs? So I attack your head. smile

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Originally posted by Scoobless
basically i've got you covered on all your long range tactics... they wont work for you, but a sustained battle will tire you out (if you don't just get webbed up straight away) while i wont tire at all ... it's pretty damn hard to wear out a cyborg.... ever seen Terminator?


Bringing Terminator into this? Pfffttt.. Terminator's are beat by normal humans all the time. A sustained battle will tire me out, but it won't last that long because you'll be dead within a few minutes. Possibly seconds of after the start of the match. I can function at peak operating capacity for at least a few hours thanks to all that energy stored onto my belt of my costume.

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Originally posted by Scoobless
sooner or later you may realise your only chance is to get in close.... and when you do that you wont have time to realise your mistake .... you'll be littering the desert floor and giving it a nice red tint


I'll get in close when I take off your two unprotected arms. Which can happen via E/N Beam blasts, or extremely wounding two of your arms, sticking them with a bunch of shurikens and throwing blades.


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Originally posted by Scarlet Fever.. Err.. Scoobless

you can't "see" me... you can only tell where the energy source is.... you can't see what i'm doing with my webbing.... or what i'm writing in the sand

now you're wondering "WTF is he writing in the sand?"


Your energy sources tell me exactly where you are compared to your Spider sense which tells you the general direction the danger is coming from.

Are you writing your amaglam's will in the sand?


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Actually, Spider Sense is prety precise... Scoob's scans are a pretty good representation of exactly HOW precise.

And I know this battlefield is just to piss me off. I know it! GOD! You're a sick man Digi. Sick and utterly twisted. Fremen can basically disappear in a desert. Added to Drizzt's already amazing amounts of stealthiness and magical (not really) sandwalking abilities... GOD! (he actually did run across snow that was a few feet deep without sinking in. Just to piss off Bruenor)

Ok, bitterness off.


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And I know this battlefield is just to piss me off. I know it! GOD! You're a sick man Digi. Sick and utterly twisted. Fremen can basically disappear in a desert.


I think Digi chose this battlefield in advance I think. He probably assumed that you were gonna win and give you slight advantage over Scoobs.

You still gave me one hell of a battle though.


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I think Digi chose this battlefield in advance I think. He probably assumed that you were gonna win and give you slight advantage over Scoobs.

You still gave me one hell of a battle though.


I was kidding, I think he said the selection procedure had something to do with his dog...


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yeah.. IF it's just a graze you would probably survive... but you'd be in extreme pain as whichever part of you that was grazed continues to burn long after the hit... i imagine that would throw off your "game" for the rest of the battle

multiple "grazes" means multiple areas of skin that'll never grow back properly + loss of mobility

any solid hit means you're screwed


How are your plasma blasts getting through my shield again?

Sure I'll tone it down for the tourney, but still, will your little wrist blasters get through it?


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Sand will fly. Imagine Moses parting the Red Sea... Imagine an energy beam parting a Dune of sand... Sand will be everywhere. Thus impairing your vision. smile


as well as your own... yes your energy thing can tell you where i am... bu only a few blips... you can't see the position my body is in so anything you throw will miss and dodging a single beam has never been beyond Scarlet Spider

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Originally posted by Adam Warlock
With multiple blasts going around you and you being blind as a blind can be, the only thing you'll be hitting is sand. smile


sand and you

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Then again, you have multiple bullseyes on your body even though faint, I can decipher where to shoot from there.


again... you can see few blips, but not the central mass or body position.... you're firing at the end of an arm that is more than fast enough to move out of the way

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Originally posted by Adam Warlock
How are you going to hit me with my shield up... Yeah, that's right, I have a shield. Check out that link. I was gonna save it for the finals but I like pulling new tricks out of thin air. Why can everyone else have shields and I can't? Sure I'll tone it down for this battle. but it looks like your plasma weapons ain't touching me. smile


first off... why would you not divulge this info with your original bios if you claim you knew all along?

secondly... PROVE that you can hold up the shield and fire at the same time... nowhere in that link does it say you can do both at once

thirdly (you'll love this) Kull armour enables the wearer to move through energy shields unharmed (part of the energy absorption function).... so while you're holding up your shield, i just pass an arm through it and blast your face off

"Because the armor of the Kull Warrior deflects bullets and absorbs energy blasts, the technology is highly prized. The SGC fitted Jacob Carter/Selmak with a dead Kull Warrior's suit to penetrate the force field protecting the stargate on Tartarus"
http://wiki.stargate-sg1-solutions....hp/Kull_Warrior

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Originally posted by Adam Warlock
When things are done simultaneously, things are usually done half-assed


like throwing shuriken running, in circles and trying to lock on with a concussive beam all while avoiding getting your ass fried????

roll eyes (sarcastic)

don't worry, Scarlet Spider has shown to be able to dodge and web simultaneously very effectively in the past.... unlike your guys.... you should have traded in the horn for some form of pre-cog

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Originally posted by Adam Warlock
It doesn't say it anywhere in those bios. Check out Iron Man #4 Silver age run(1968). I think that's the one Iron Man is rocked by a near miss.


Iron Man's armour never had energy absorption abilities worth mentioning back in the 60's.... he might as well be wearing a tin can by comparison

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Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Again I'll see your energy sources, and that's all I need to see. You are lit up like a Christmas tree while your blinded by the sand.


you'll see 2 or 4 dots..... nowhere near a full enough picture to aim shuriken with

and, as you well know, spider sense works just as well in the dark as it does in the light

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Your energy sources tell me exactly where you are compared to your Spider sense which tells you the general direction the danger is coming from.


i'll have no problem functioning with limited vision

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i'll know exactly which direction you are in.... that's all i need to aim my various weapons at you

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So basically you have no skin right? No flesh? No organs? So I attack your head.


good luck with that.... not only is it surrounded by some of the more solid parts of my armour... but it's attached to an extremely fast, spider-sense usin', Jedi-slappin', plasma-blastin', web thwippin', battle plannin', energy absorbin', force field by-passin', swash-bucklin' mack daddy of the highest order

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Bringing Terminator into this? Pfffttt.. Terminator's are beat by normal humans all the time.


not in straight up fights they aren't

one last little tidbit for you to chew over...... as soon as you put up a force field, i can hit it with impact webbing (much bigger target...unmissable i'd say) ... this webbing will flow around your field until in completely encases you... if you lower the field it'll constrict and wrap up your body.... you still need to breath.... right?


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How are your plasma blasts getting through my shield again?

Sure I'll tone it down for the tourney, but still, will your little wrist blasters get through it?


well they burn through the titanium plates the SG teams used to use for body armour (they stopped using titanium because of the plasma staffs and wrist cannons)

so if your shields are toned down to tourney specs i'd have a fairly decent shot at getting through it ... but like i said ... impact webbing works wonders against shields

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well they burn through the titanium plates the SG teams used to use for body armour (they stopped using titanium because of the plasma staffs and wrist cannons)

Actually, they switched to ceramic plates because of the staff weapons, long before they saw the much smaller wrist blasters. sO there's probably a good sized difference between wrist blaster and staff weapon. And I don't remember them ever using titanium armor, I thought it was just plain steel plating and bulletproof vests.

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Actually, they switched to ceramic plates because of the staff weapons, long before they saw the much smaller wrist blasters. sO there's probably a good sized difference between wrist blaster and staff weapon. And I don't remember them ever using titanium armor, I thought it was just plain steel plating and bulletproof vests.


did you see that episode where they're making the documentary? the guy goes down to the James Bond-esque testing facility and sees them trying out the ceramic plates... he comments on the reason for switching from titanium ... he says the plates just got burned through and the soldier was effectively trapped in a portable oven


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Even with the discount I don't think lp could afford it.

You tease....


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I was kidding, I think he said the selection procedure had something to do with his dog...


Actually, yeah. I figured out about 20 battle sites. Then my dog picked slips of paper at random (he'll chew on anything) to choose the order in which they were fought. So it wasn't intentional that the sand battle was in Dizzle's bracket. He just would have gotten wicked lucky this round if he had beaten Sentry.

But thinking about you missing out on this battlefield is pricelessly hilarious. Sorry D. laughing out loud


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well they burn through the titanium plates the SG teams used to use for body armour (they stopped using titanium because of the plasma staffs and wrist cannons)

so if your shields are toned down to tourney specs i'd have a fairly decent shot at getting through it ... but like i said ... impact webbing works wonders against shields

smile


Ok, picture this. Your impact webbing covers my shield. As soon as I let my shield down, I'll make sure my swords are there to slice through the center of the webbing as I lower my shield, and the webbing harmlessly falls to the ground. Then I counter via E-Beam Blast to one one of your hands that has the lightsabers. Or perhaps I'll aim for your head. EAA will only do so much.

Your web is not indestructible, it'll be a piece of cake for my blades. smile

Here's another one for you. I shoot my E-Beams not at you, but directly in front of you. It hits the ground within a foot of you kicking a whole lot of sand up. As soon as that blast hits, I fire off another blast straight at you this time. I know you will not stand still and take the blast, so immediately after I let that other blast go, I toss off a trio of charged Throwing blades one set to the right, and one set to the left. Now as the my blades are traveling a second behind my E-Beam blast, I jump towards you straight above you and fire my E-Beams downward when looking down at you.

You can't go straight back or my beam will still get you. You can't go to your immediate left or right or you run the risk of being caught by my charged blades. You also can't jump straight up due to the fact I'll be over you blasting a ray of light down on you sending your Amaglam to heaven...


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as well as your own... yes your energy thing can tell you where i am... bu only a few blips... you can't see the position my body is in so anything you throw will miss and dodging a single beam has never been beyond Scarlet Spider


What's so hard about aiming at the center of those blips?

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sand and you


sand and me? No. On the other hand, my blasts will be blasting the blips(lightsabers and wrist blasters), possibly blowing a few of your limbs off in the process. Possibly your head.

So if your EAA thing does work and absorb some of the energy, instead of having enough power to blast a tank on it's side, it'll have enough power to blast a car of a truck over. You will feel the blast through your suit. So one of those blasts hitting your arms will surely take them off. Imagine if it hit your head? Or your legs while you were trying to dodge my thorwing blades/shurikens.


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