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stormfront13
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Originally posted by long pig
Your shields are up during prep, stormfront?





yeah, if it's allowed.



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No, you don't. According to the bio YOU YOURSELF submitted, you don't have Spider-Sense


the link is also really crappy, and even if you don't believe me about the whole spider-sence thing, i have pre-cog and clairvoyance to make up for that.

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Well, it was stated earlier that it is classic Venom.

And technically, due to the bond, it wouldn't be two characters.


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fine, if it's classic venom, then he is still as vulnerable as ever, and he needs proof that old venom is still that fast.

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i don't think your listening so to speak scoob...

the new evolved venom WAS bonded with brock.. but brock pushed it away as part of a concious effort.. he wanted to do so...but tbkk isn't doing that here.. there's no moral dilema i have to deal with here..... thus I'm going into this with the same history as brock basically... except I'm not pushing it away.. thus the point is null and void...

... the symbiote feeds of rage, sabretooth certainly has an abundance of that.. the evolved symbiote claimed wolverine was the perfect host for it.. I assume the same would go for sabes as well... only this time there has been bonding between the host and symbiote since the 80's just like brock...


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Originally posted by Scoobless
i didn't think Spider-Woman had spider sense either


probably because.....................


she doesn't....


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probably because.....................


she doesn't....


there's no proof of that, and she's been shown to dodge many thing in the past, and she has even replaced spider-man himself for a while. even if she doesn't, i have clairvoyance and pre-cog to keep up.

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also it doesn't matter how fast you are because i put my shields up during prep

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... the symbiote feeds of rage, sabretooth certainly has an abundance of that..


actually they feed on phenylethylamine.... lol (so it was stated in "Venom: The Hunger" anyway.... well i think it was that story)

"Phenylethylamine releases dopamine in the mesolimbic pleasure-centres; it peaks during orgasm"

so basically.... the symbiote feeds on pleasure..... big grin

lol

laughing out loud


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Yes. And just so I can make a point clear:

In the amalgam, it's not simply slapping the venom symbiote onto the body. You're putting all of Venom into the amalgam, not simply the symbiote entity.

Let me explain it better this way:

Let's say you amalgam Iron Man. You would not simply be adding Iron Man's exact armor to the mix, but all of the armor, Tony Stark, and the history of Iron Man. If you simply used the armor, it would not work since it is made for Tony only and wouldn't work to maximum efficiency. It would also give the amalgam a horrible migraine through the fight, since it's reading brain waves that differ from Tony's.(this is what happened to War Machine when he became Iron Man)

So, as an amalgam, the symbiote is that of TBK's, not simply Eddie Brock.


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i know all that.... but when Jin pointed out that Venom is now it's own being... well it occured to me that his mass would be counted as being a body as much as Sabretooth's would... and we're only permitted to use the body of one character

i don't think it's going to come to anything though... just thought i'd throw it out there


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Spiderwoman doesn't have pre-cog?


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The difference between Spider Sense and Pre-Cog is that the SS is an instinctive reaction as soon as danger happens.

Pre-Cog is seeing what happens before it happens. So you'd have to determine what is happening, and then consciously (instead of instinctively) react to it.

This makes Spider Sense a MUCH more effective tool of dodging.

Spider Woman doesn't have it. There is no reason she would. No proof of her having it either.

(My Doppleganger Spider Sense arguement was effective due to the fact that he mimic'd "all" of Spidermans Powers.)


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Now I see what you mean. But his character can have more mass like that, I think, since it's an addition to his body, like armor is.


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http://www.marveldirectory.com/indi...derwomaniii.htm

proof that spider-woman has pre-cog and clairvoyance.

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The difference between Spider Sense and Pre-Cog is that the SS is an instinctive reaction as soon as danger happens.

Pre-Cog is seeing what happens before it happens. So you'd have to determine what is happening, and then consciously (instead of instinctively) react to it.

This makes Spider Sense a MUCH more effective tool of dodging.

Spider Woman doesn't have it. There is no reason she would. No proof of her having it either.

(My Doppleganger Spider Sense arguement was effective due to the fact that he mimic'd "all" of Spidermans Powers.)


yes, spider-woman mimic'd all of spider-mans powers too, in the gathering of the five.

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I don't doubt pre-cog. It's the fact that she doesn't have Spider-Sense.


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The difference between Spider Sense and Pre-Cog is that the SS is an instinctive reaction as soon as danger happens.

Pre-Cog is seeing what happens before it happens. So you'd have to determine what is happening, and then consciously (instead of instinctively) react to it.

This makes Spider Sense a MUCH more effective tool of dodging.

Spider Woman doesn't have it. There is no reason she would. No proof of her having it either.

(My Doppleganger Spider Sense arguement was effective due to the fact that he mimic'd "all" of Spidermans Powers.)

Oh.


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I don't doubt pre-cog. It's the fact that she doesn't have Spider-Sense.


which no one really has any proof of. she has dodged many things like spider-man in the past, and was so good that seh was even able to replace him for a while.

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yes, spider-woman mimic'd all of spider-mans powers too, in the gathering of the five.


No, the Gathering of the 5 gave her super strength and flight. Then later on she got all the powers of the previous Spider Women. (e.g. venom blasts, sticking to walls, and psi-webbing.)

The Gathering of the five is completely different and unrelated to Peter' Parker's being bitten by a radioactive spider. So I don't see how they would produce the same results.

Your amalgam has a lot of tricks SF but it doesn't have a Spider sense. Use the others. smile


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No, the Gathering of the 5 gave her super strength and flight. Then later on she got all the powers of the previous Spider Women. (e.g. venom blasts, sticking to walls, and psi-webbing.)

The Gathering of the five is completely different and unrelated to Peter' Parker's being bitten by a radioactive spider. So I don't see how they would produce the same results.

Your amalgam has a lot of tricks SF but it doesn't have a Spider sense. Use the others. smile


no, it gave her the powers of spider-man, because she wanted them due to him being her idol.

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