Thanks for the back up, mr parker. And yes, i was wrong and out of place insulting , but those people were the same at first. My mistake and my fault. I will try to dont entry in battles anymore, only i will post my opinion.
And about the stan lee issue, people like stan or bob kane have to say sometimes things that they really dont think , as many people in the cinema business when they are promoting a movie. Come on, they arent idiots and this is a bussiness, they have to talk good about those movies. George Clooney said that batman and robin was great when he was promoting this movie, look what he is saying about the movie now.
Same with Stan Lee or Bob Kane.
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I tried doing a search for them but came up with nothing,HOWEVER there is this poster who goes by the name of The Lizard and another poster named Dragon over at the shh boards who like you,really enjoyed the man-spider movies and if you want,you can talk to them about it there though because they have been at that site since its original inception in 2000 and The Lizard he once posted a link there where Stan was involved in a discussion around that time about the movie with some people and one of them asked him about the organic webshooters and his thoughts on them being in the movie and the link showed him saying that He did not like the idea of the organics being in the movie at all and opposed it.I asked The Lizard once a couple years later after that,about it if he still had that link and he said he could not find it.However like I said,you can register if you want to there and pm him and he will tell you about it.also that poster Dragon I mentioned,said that shh once had Stan online in a chat session there once in a interview and they were discussion all kinds of things with him about spiderman the comic,the movie,ect and he was all friendly and polite in the interview chat sesion but according to that poster Dragon-who I know went and saw the movie 4 times I think he said,he said that Stan Lee at that time when asked about the organic webshooters being in the movie and his thoughts on it,that he got really riled about it and angry when it was mentioned out of nowhere and started going off about how much he opposed them being in the movie and then changed the subject and said-Can we talk about something else please???? That hardly sounds like someone who had a ringining endorcement for the organics in the beginning. so I wish people would be aware of the facts first before posting that he has no problem with organics.also like Bakerboy said,Bob Kane as well said before Batman and Robin was released,that Batman and Robin was the best Batman movie.Kane obviously didnt mean that.Like Bakerboy said,he was obviously just trying to promote the film and wanting it to do well finiacially.same with Stan.again can you blame them? I cant.I mean they have no control over what the movie stuidos do with the movie,might as well promote it and get rich off the endorcements like they do.
and oh,something else I wanted to point out was when I was doing my search on stan,I found this link with the heading that said- A HUGE FANBOY CONTROVERSY BY GIVING PETER PARKER ORGANIC WEBSHOOTERS. it said that because it IS a major change and there RE thousands out there pissed about it.
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I guarantee you,sony only hurt themselves with the organics,it would easily have been number one at the box office and beaten titanic but because they blatantly disregarded what the fanbase felt,they went and split it down the middle and lost many moviegoers because of it. and oh! something else I forgot to mention to you Drache is that when the original man-spider movie came out,he was in Im pretty sure it was in cenescape I believe,where the interviewer in the magazine asked him what his thoughts were on the goblin costume and he voiced he was not pleased with the look of it.They didnt bring up the organics though.they also asked him how much input he has in them making the films and he said -very little at all. So he obviously has no control over what sony wants to do with the movie.he sold the rights to them and unfortunately they can do whatever they please with it and Stan has no say on it.
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Worked for me. I mean, how serious would it have been to see a guy dressed in green spandex with a purple tunic? I think it wouldn't have translated as well on the big screen.
well they dont have to make him look exactly like in the comics, but the change shouldnt be for some crappy plastic power ranger suit.
If i was going to design the green goblin suit - just make him look like a goblin with some torn up cape/cloak, it isnt that hard. If they want some explanation for how he makes the glider movie, he'd have a slim nano tech outfit on underneath.
i literally have made a better Spiderman 1 movie IN my head, it kicks sam raimi's @ss
oh Drech,got some good news for you.you asked for it,you got it.This pretty much shuts up the man-spiders fairy tale that Stan Lee liked the idea of organics.I was trying to find the link for you and this wasnt the exact one that I saw,but this one here however-www.filmforce.ign.com on the front page has Kevin Smith doing an interview with Stan and as you can see,he asks him the question-point Blank on his honest thoughts about the organic webbing and as you can see,Stan says in that interview that if he had it HIS way and was allowed to make the movie the way he would have liked to have,then he would have done it with the mechanical web-shooters. As I have tried to point out to the man-spider fans countless of times before who love those moronice organics so much though,Stan himself obviously from these comments felt that the mechanical webshooters could have worked and would if he had had his way,would have done it that way.It clearly proves what I have been saying all along that they only did it because of sheer laziness because again he brings up the lame argument that it was done because of the same old lame reasons that people here bought into because the audience could not believe a kid genius could create something like that.When in fact,Stan said that it would require extra scenes to do and that kind of stuff.as I tried to point out to the man-spider fans,that pretty much proves what I said that it was sheer laziness on Raimis part because he didnt want to take the extra time to film the extra scenes it would take so he just took the lazy way out and him and sony came up with that lame and moronic excuse that so many people blindly bought into and swallowed about the kid teenage genius crap.
It doesn't matter whether Stan likes the organics or not.He still loves the Spider-Man movies.He has cameos in both of them,attends the premieres and mixes it up with Sam Raimi and the rest of the stars, and has interviews on the DVD's.
oh geez we been over this before Doc.stan lee is the only person that really knows if he REALLY likes them or not.He's not going to come out and trash the films if he is unhappy with them.He is too much of a nice and classy guy to do that.Of course he will say that to promote them,thats his most famous creation.
Alright I know I have no way of proving this but, Stan Lee did a radio interview with Toronto's Edge 102.1. In this interview (over the phone) Stan Lee said he was happy with most the casting (as he always does) and he also was asked if there were changes made the story that he wasnt happy with. His response IIRC was that the one thing people ask him alot was about the web shooters being removed. He said that while he wouldnt have made the change, he thinks for the movie format it was something that was needed for the character. The web shooters would have needed more time to explain correctly and that the movie crowed was not the same as the comic crowed and that things cant be as complicated in the movie as in the comic.
I thought it was a very good answer. Does he think its awesome and hes totally happy with it? No, what he said was that it was important for the movie to have organic shooters. Last time I checked Mr Parker, you have no reason to critique anyones writing. Not that I do too. You can cry about it until youre blue in the face, but the final word is that the change needed to be made. There arnt 10 billion spider-man fans out there. The comic industry doesnt have millions of people buying spider-man comics. Therefore changes must be made. Things need to be made simple. Its a horrible fact and I hate it with all my spirit, but theres nothing you nor I can do. You can be mad about changing the personality and you can be mad at changing the character looks. However you can not be upset when the make plots more simple, stories more simple and things like that.
Movies =/= Comics.
Besides, its my belief that Mr Parker is not a spider-man or man-spider fan. If he was he would understand that SOME changes MUST be made to the comic in order to convert it over to a movie. If he was a real fan who actually loved the character as much as some of us do (and I dont really consider him my favorite character but I do think hes one of my top 5) he would accept the slight change and go on with his life.
I mean really, Spider-man stories come along that change continuity all the time. When that happens you just dont buy that series of comics? Stick with the book you like. lol Mr Parker is just some kid trying to get everyone worked up. Just ignore him haha.
Oh come on enough with this the change needed to be made crap.yeah In not a spider-man fan thats why I put that sig at the bottom of my screen. Shows how clueless you are and clueless what you are talking about with that lie that the change needed to be made.Next thing your going to say is that it was needed in the Tim Burton Batman movies for him to go out and kill people. Just Like Tim Burton is an idiot when it comes to Batman films,Sam Raimi is an idiot when it comes to spiderman movies. Again Stan is going to say that because he is not going to want to give his true feelings and give it a bad word of mouth.He has too much class for that.How complicated can that be to understand? and whats this about critisising someones writing? I never critisised anybodys writing.Your either trying to make an insulting remark or your saying things I never said.If your making an insulting remark about my writing,then your just plain childish.If your not,then your putting words in my mouth and just shows you dont know what the hell your talking about because I never critisise peoples writing.Either way,you have shown you are clueless on what you are talking about by that writing comment and also your idiotic comment that I am not spider-man fan which shows you are clueless on everything that you say.your the one that needs to be ignored here.
Again,they just used the organics because like Stan Lee said,it would require more screentime and Raimi was just too damn lazy to take the time to do it.It COULD have been done if they had a competent director such as Peter Jackson making the movie. That guy is definetely not a lazy director and incompetent director like Raimi is.He would have taken the extra time to put in the extra scenes it would require.
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1.are you next going to tell me that you believe Bob Kane's B.S that he really thought Batman and Robin was the best Batman movie? if so,the logic of the man-spider fans is really getting to you and you been hanging around with them too much.
2.Of course ONLY Stan knows.Thats my point all along,you got to take in what Stan says about liking them with a grain of salt,can you post me a link where he ever blasted another bad marvel comicbook movie such as The Hulk? If you can show me one of those,I might be able to take him seriously but I dont think he has ever publicly bad mouthed a marvel comicbook movie.
3.see above post.
4.again see post number 2.
5.I just know that you got to take in what he says with a grain of salt after learning Bob Kane said Batman and Robin was the best batman movie and that before each Batman movie was released,he said it was better than the previous ones and that continued as well with Batman and Robin.That would be just plain ignorant for anybody to believe that Bob Kane was REALLY being honest with his thoughts on what he said about Batman and Robin.Why should I believe Stan is any different?
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so I wish people would be aware of the facts first before posting that he has no problem with organics.also like Bakerboy said,Bob Kane as well said before Batman and Robin was released,that Batman and Robin was the best Batman movie.Kane obviously didnt mean that.Like Bakerboy said,he was obviously just trying to promote the film and wanting it to do well finiacially.same with Stan.again can you blame them? I cant.I mean they have no control over what the movie stuidos do with the movie,might as well promote it and get rich off the endorcements like they do.
