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Everything you just said doesn't apply as this is a non cis/pis fight.... smile


embarrasment See, sometimes it pays to read the firs part of the forum. Oops.
Well I still think it was comic book correct.


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how many huk fights are there ive got 3 of them


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Hulk has never stopped Juggernaut, Hulk actually has never defeated Juggernaut.

Please give me the issue or the scans of when Hulk had his body reduced to bone, and regenerated in seconds.

When did Hulk beat the mess out of Onslaught? Onslaught allowed, literally allowed Hulk to break his armor but that didn't do anything but help him.

What do you mean these two guys have fought a lot not counting the Marvel vs DC? the few times they have fought it was a Marvel, DC crossover.

When did Dr.Strange transfer Hulk to another dimension? how did Hulk get back?


Well I don't have the issues with me they are back home but here is some reference to what I'm talking about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incredible_Hulk

"The Hulk possesses an incredible level of superhuman physical ability. His most well known superhuman ability is his capacity for near limitless physical strength. The Hulk possesses a "base" strength level sufficient to lift roughly 100 tons. However, his physical strength increases as adrenaline surges through his body during periods of heightened emotional stress, particularly the emotion of anger. While he is in this enraged state, the Hulk is capable of lifting far in excess of 100 tons. During the Secret Wars mini-series, for example, he was seen effectively holding up a one hundred and fifty billion ton-mountain (although he himself said that he had leverage and couldn't hold it for long.) which was dropped on them by the Molecule Man until the heroes buried inside could find a way to blast their way out. The Hulk also seems to be stronger the more radiation he absorbs, which is the main reason why Maestro from the future has become stronger than the present Hulk. He has also demonstrated his great strength by doing the supposedly impossible, he physically stopped the Juggernaut from moving forward. Also, The Hulk was the only superhero able to fight one on one with the psychic being Onslaught and hold his own after Jean Grey used her telepathic powers to effectively shut down his mind, resulting in the Hulk's rage increasing to the point where he was in a mindless, berserker-like state. Effectively taking down the second form of the psychic being by himself (with a punch that sounded like a nuke exploding at ground zero according to Storm)"

"The Hulk has shown a high resistance to physical damage nearly regardless of the cause (whether it be artillery shells, falls from a great height, or puncture wounds, such as the numerous slashings and stabbings he endured while fighting Wolverine), and has also shown resistance to extreme temperatures, poisons, and diseases. In addition, the Hulk's body can regenerate damaged or destroyed areas of tissue at an amazing rate."

In 1999 there was "The Incredible Hulk vs. Superman" and "DC/Marvel: Crossover Classics Vol. 3" and of course "Marvel Vs. DC"

Some more images about powers and healing. Now don't get me wrong that I don't think Sups can't beat him, it's just not clear cut. If Sups went all out in the first few seconds that would put him down before he had time to get ticked but he would have to kill him before he healed.

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Uhhh..... reality check: Superman is not even half as fast as flash, and flash is not even one quarter fast as the speed of light.


Dude, what the F*CK are you talking about? What the f**k? Flash can run up to 100X the speed of light. Superman has shown to be able to fly at the speed of light. Read some Superman and Flash comics before you make a STUPID statement like that.


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Well I don't have the issues with me they are back home but here is some reference to what I'm talking about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incredible_Hulk

"The Hulk possesses an incredible level of superhuman physical ability. His most well known superhuman ability is his capacity for near limitless physical strength. The Hulk possesses a "base" strength level sufficient to lift roughly 100 tons. However, his physical strength increases as adrenaline surges through his body during periods of heightened emotional stress, particularly the emotion of anger. While he is in this enraged state, the Hulk is capable of lifting far in excess of 100 tons. During the Secret Wars mini-series, for example, he was seen effectively holding up a one hundred and fifty billion ton-mountain (although he himself said that he had leverage and couldn't hold it for long.) which was dropped on them by the Molecule Man until the heroes buried inside could find a way to blast their way out. The Hulk also seems to be stronger the more radiation he absorbs, which is the main reason why Maestro from the future has become stronger than the present Hulk. He has also demonstrated his great strength by doing the supposedly impossible, he physically stopped the Juggernaut from moving forward. Also, The Hulk was the only superhero able to fight one on one with the psychic being Onslaught and hold his own after Jean Grey used her telepathic powers to effectively shut down his mind, resulting in the Hulk's rage increasing to the point where he was in a mindless, berserker-like state. Effectively taking down the second form of the psychic being by himself (with a punch that sounded like a nuke exploding at ground zero according to Storm)"

"The Hulk has shown a high resistance to physical damage nearly regardless of the cause (whether it be artillery shells, falls from a great height, or puncture wounds, such as the numerous slashings and stabbings he endured while fighting Wolverine), and has also shown resistance to extreme temperatures, poisons, and diseases. In addition, the Hulk's body can regenerate damaged or destroyed areas of tissue at an amazing rate."

In 1999 there was "The Incredible Hulk vs. Superman" and "DC/Marvel: Crossover Classics Vol. 3" and of course "Marvel Vs. DC"

Some more images about powers and healing. Now don't get me wrong that I don't think Sups can't beat him, it's just not clear cut. If Sups went all out in the first few seconds that would put him down before he had time to get ticked but he would have to kill him before he healed.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f51/t354306.html


Using cross-overs is a not a good way to argue for these guys. Cross-overs ARE NOT cannon. Meaning they hold absolutely NO continuity. They are forbidden to use as evidence in these forums. Anyways, with the MASSIVE speed advantage combined with the advantage of fly, the advantage of turning intangible as well as turning invisible, how in the f*ck could Hulk even touch him? You've failed to make a plausible arguement as to how he could touch him much less SEE him. Superman could fly in faster than the Hulk could even think, grab him by the ankle and throw him into the sun. Game over; BFR.


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Originally posted by ThePittman
Well I don't have the issues with me they are back home but here is some reference to what I'm talking about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incredible_Hulk

"The Hulk possesses an incredible level of superhuman physical ability. His most well known superhuman ability is his capacity for near limitless physical strength. The Hulk possesses a "base" strength level sufficient to lift roughly 100 tons. However, his physical strength increases as adrenaline surges through his body during periods of heightened emotional stress, particularly the emotion of anger. While he is in this enraged state, the Hulk is capable of lifting far in excess of 100 tons. During the Secret Wars mini-series, for example, he was seen effectively holding up a one hundred and fifty billion ton-mountain (although he himself said that he had leverage and couldn't hold it for long.) which was dropped on them by the Molecule Man until the heroes buried inside could find a way to blast their way out. The Hulk also seems to be stronger the more radiation he absorbs, which is the main reason why Maestro from the future has become stronger than the present Hulk. He has also demonstrated his great strength by doing the supposedly impossible, he physically stopped the Juggernaut from moving forward. Also, The Hulk was the only superhero able to fight one on one with the psychic being Onslaught and hold his own after Jean Grey used her telepathic powers to effectively shut down his mind, resulting in the Hulk's rage increasing to the point where he was in a mindless, berserker-like state. Effectively taking down the second form of the psychic being by himself (with a punch that sounded like a nuke exploding at ground zero according to Storm)"

"The Hulk has shown a high resistance to physical damage nearly regardless of the cause (whether it be artillery shells, falls from a great height, or puncture wounds, such as the numerous slashings and stabbings he endured while fighting Wolverine), and has also shown resistance to extreme temperatures, poisons, and diseases. In addition, the Hulk's body can regenerate damaged or destroyed areas of tissue at an amazing rate."

In 1999 there was "The Incredible Hulk vs. Superman" and "DC/Marvel: Crossover Classics Vol. 3" and of course "Marvel Vs. DC"

Some more images about powers and healing. Now don't get me wrong that I don't think Sups can't beat him, it's just not clear cut. If Sups went all out in the first few seconds that would put him down before he had time to get ticked but he would have to kill him before he healed.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f51/t354306.html


You shouldn't take info from Wikipedia, it's fan made. If you want info get it from comics


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Dude, what the F*CK are you talking about? What the f**k? Flash can run up to 100X the speed of light. Superman has shown to be able to fly at the speed of light. Read some Superman and Flash comics before you make a STUPID statement like that.




if the flash really was that fast, that means he would be invincible. you wanna know why? because unless there's anyone faster than him, he'd be able to tear them to shreds in a microsecond. it would take him a second to run around the earth 750 times! there wouldnt be a flash comic to begin with if had this speed. its too exaggerated and blown way out of proportion. like einstein said, anything that travels at the speed of light becomes light. such a speed is impossible to reach. u callin me stupid? you'd fail a physics test if you ever allowed to sit one.


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if the flash really was that fast, that means he would be invincible. you wanna know why? because unless there's anyone faster than him, he'd be able to tear them to shreds in a microsecond. it would take him a second to run around the earth 750 times! there wouldnt be a flash comic to begin with if had this speed. its too exaggerated and blown way out of proportion. like einstein said, anything that travels at the speed of light becomes light. such a speed is impossible to reach. u callin me stupid? you'd fail a physics test if you ever allowed to sit one.


Er no, As a mass appraoches the speed of light it's mass increases exponentially. If it was converted into photon's that would be the mass exploding. It appears you'd fail that physics test too. Honestly I don't see how people have a problem with charcaters moving at faster than light speeds. How do you sit through a science fiction film? tends to happen a lot there too. Added to that there is experimental evidence of been able to exceed lightspeed.

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Using cross-overs is a not a good way to argue for these guys. Cross-overs ARE NOT cannon. Meaning they hold absolutely NO continuity. They are forbidden to use as evidence in these forums. Anyways, with the MASSIVE speed advantage combined with the advantage of fly, the advantage of turning intangible as well as turning invisible, how in the f*ck could Hulk even touch him? You've failed to make a plausible arguement as to how he could touch him much less SEE him. Superman could fly in faster than the Hulk could even think, grab him by the ankle and throw him into the sun. Game over; BFR.


OK, I know that crossovers are not common; I was asked when they have fought before. I was only using them as an example as to the length of the fights, people were saying that it would be over in a few seconds and I was using them as a reference and not as “fact”. Each of these characters doesn’t hold continuity, they change from writer to writer from year to year, and each has done something that they are not supposed to do.

Now I have never heard of Sups turning invisible or becoming intangible, if he retains all of his ability while being invisible then this fight is pointless because this is already a close match and that is one power that would put it over the edge. The intangible thing doesn’t come into play because he would be able to touch him either. Remember that in order for Sups to do anything he has to “touch” him as well and just because he can grab his ankle and “throw him into the sun” doesn’t mean that Hulk can’t grab his wrist and prevent that.

The speed of light would only come into play if they were fighting in space and not on any planet with an atmosphere, the sonic boom that would be caused by that much mass reaching the speed of light would rip apart any planet they were on. Just because he couldn’t “see” him doesn’t mean he can’t hit him, Hulk has fought super fast people before being Speed Freak. Granted he is not Quicksilver or Flash fast he is still moving faster then anyone can see and to top off the fact that he is covered in adamantium armor. When moving at that speed they do create a sound wave and Hulk does have super hearing, then creating one of his shock wave, which has been rated up to, the concussion blast of an atom bomb would rip apart anyone going at that speed. Think of it as a car going 100mph hitting a brick wall.

I am trying to be civil here and I have made many very plausible arguments to all of your questions and statements. First of all you have never stated the whole invisible thing and I have used reference to back up my statements.


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You shouldn't take info from Wikipedia, it's fan made. If you want info get it from comics


As I said I don't have the comics with me and I was using this as another point of reference.


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One last point is Doomsday, and as far as I know he is just a muscle bound fighter with no super speed and a great healing factor and killed superman. That sounds a lot like the Hulk to me, though Hulks regeneration is far superior.


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can somone plz answer my question


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can somone plz answer my question


I know of only three, I have them in my post above.


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cool which means i have all of them, and pitt rules do you have the pitt hulk fight


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cool which means i have all of them, and pitt rules do you have the pitt hulk fight
Thanks, I have them too as for the Pitt Vs. Hulk I got that as well. I got the entire Pitt series and off shoots that I know of as well as some of the trashcans that came out. I also got a signed copy of Pitt #3. My pride and joy. smile


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awesome do you remember a crossover with supreme i got the first pat fo that but i missed the bit after wards where pitt grabs the hammer its in supremes comics he was good lol


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awesome do you remember a crossover with supreme i got the first pat fo that but i missed the bit after wards where pitt grabs the hammer its in supremes comics he was good lol


Dam I missed that one, I'll have to find it.


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