So only the very lastest issues of Hulk are being used? If thats the case then likely yes, seeing as though Hulk is physically compromised.
Although even in this condition he was still able to shrug off Adamantium bullets, break through a barrier specifically designed to bfr upon touch, and resist a beatdown from a seemingly more powerful and mindless Abomination who was prepped and snuck attack him.
Really? Good luck with that.
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Abhi is a hypocrite, it's fine to say that Superman was ambushed, but not fine to point it out when the Hulk gets ambushed. Like I said poor form, and I'm micrometers away from ignoring anything that he says. I see you edited your post. Good stuff, never feed the trolls.
Hulk doesn't has a HF anymore under Waid and had to punch a wall three times to break it. I think that's more of an indication of strength than anything else.
Yeah, its not like savage Hulk hasn't been knocked out with physical force before and this hulk has been knocked out plenty of times.
Yeah because Superman has never been KO'd. Your stance is becoming slimier with every post. Keep it up, by this time tomorrow you should resemble a slug.
I never said that. But Superman is as of this moment holds all the advantages over hulk. Hulk can knock him out but Superman can do that faster with his strength combined with his speed and HV.
I don't consider the Hulk of the past 23 or more issues him remotely at his best. i have little doubt that Superman could take this limp version of the Hulk down, I half way suspect that most of the top tiers can. The problem with your posts is that you keep stating things that happened to Superman as well. This isn't the best way of proving that Superman can beat the Hulk. I'm also about to stay clear of threads that has Superman vs The Hulk, because these are two characters that are as strong as the story needs them to be.
He doesn't?
It's an indication that Hulk was weakened, as was stated just a couple of pages prior. It didn't even show if he was punching the same wall iirc so either way that's a moot point.
By his peers in a straight up brawl? Rarely ever. Waids Hulk had been inadvertently flask ko 'd by Thor that's about it, changing back into Banner isn't a ko. Superman on the other hand...
Yeah, I'm sure he was so much weakened that he reduced to Captain America level in strength. Sure thing bro.
Hulk has been KOED several times, I'd like you to remind the Iron Man/Hulk scene and the mountain blowing up. And getting knocked out by a residual charge from Thor is ****ing embarrasing. It wasn't even an attack FFS. And talking of Superman, which peer of him knocked him out actually?
Superman has been beaten to sleep plenty of times. Haven't seen anyone drop Hulk with a single hit like what happened to Superman when he was punched to the moon. You'll have to go back at least 15 yrs to find anything close to this.
Also, Abomination snuck attacked Hulk as shown here.
In that state where his brains are hanging out of his head, sure. He wasn't stated to be weakened by the time Abom attacked him and Banner had time to heal.
And lastly, as Pr said don't bash.
You mean by Helspont? I said from peers, not from people way above top tier. But getting KOED by a residue of lightning from Thor is right there.
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Doomsday is not Hulk, Doomsday is Hulk 2.0 or at least that was the he was conceived. Doomsday does not has any organs and minimal fluids, he is a solid mass of muscle and bone. Oh and He was a villain designed to kill Superman. Follow Doomsday's showings in comics and he is a beast and you can count with one hand the number of beings who defeated the original Doomsday.
I put an expanded response out there and I answer on the first paragraph what you asked me for.
Hulk is a tier jumper, He starts at a base. Doomsday has also dynamic strength based on his rage, he also jumps tiers, the difference is that Doomsday starts higher because of his evolutions another thing that people seem to forget is that Superman's power also go up or down depending on his mind set, so there is that too.
I have not read the comic to be honest, but different writers different points of view,but if We are taking that route; do you realize that Jurgens had Superman surviving "the destructive force of a nova" blast? but then he had him getting killed by Doomsday, so what does that make Doomsday? a being capable to punch stronger than "the destructive force of a nova" ?
All this happened under the same writer, So is pretty clear that Jurgens believes that Superman can survive a nova but not survive an encounter with Doomsday.
Having the strength to Kill a guy who can survive "the destructive force of a nova" does not seems like something Hulk can accomplish right off the bat, to be honest.
Yes I agree versatility does not give you the edge, but look at his power, He is teen titan league.
The guys we are talking about moves almost as fast as the Flash (reflexes and speed), he can shoot lasers from his eyes that burn hotter than sun and combine that with sub zero temperatures on top of that he starts stronger and also has dynamic power set regulated by his mind.
People said it before me, Hulk only wins if Superman fight stupid and does not realize Hulk is getting stronger, at the moment Superman realizes Hulk can take the punishment, Superman goes all out and one shots Hulk like an Imperex probe, IMO.
Does Hulk only appear under Waid? Last time I checked he was in several books. There was instance where he fought Quintronic Man and he needed to heal at the climax of their battle iirc, healed the cut Corvus Glaive gave him on his throat during Infinity. Other than that he hasn't needed to heal because his durability has had a push. Not needing to heal =/= no healing factor.
He collapsed not long afterwards. Clearly he was at full strength.
He wasn't ko'd in the Iron Man scene, he was down for 2 panels at most before Banner stood to his feet. Not to mention it was stated the explosion (which was from a high powered gamma device btw) would've killed Iron Man and it destroyed the mountain they were fighting on. Not bad going all things considered, so lets just ignore him surviving the destruction of islands or shrugging off nukes with ease. You're going to have to do better than those two "low" showings because I could find many more a hell of a lot worse for Current Superman if I were to play that game.
So, how is Superman winning? Try again without the lowballing.
Show me a scan that states he isn't weakened by his injuries (especially since we see Banner still jacked up and Hulk is talking just as retarded as he is). The burden of proof is on you, especially since we still see the injury on he back of Hulk head.
ABHI has no right bringing up Nukes hurting anyone. Hulk at a weakened state tanked a nuke whereas Superman nearly died from one and would have died if it wasn't for Wonder Woman.
As we're using a scene from Waid's comic, yes. Waid doesn't writes hulk with a HF.
Yeah, I'm sure having your brains hanging out of your head don't require healing too.
No, I'm not saying he was at a full strength. He was weakened after all. But to what degree?
We've been at this before bro. Hulk was most definitely KOED as seen with his eyes closed and reverting back to banner. That only happens when he gets KOED under Waid.
Its laughable to think getting KOED by a mountain exploding and Thor's lightning are considered low showings now. Pak has really spoiled you hulk fans.
Hulk isn't injured. Banner is. Learn to differentiate. And retardness doesn't makes Hulk weak. Never has. Savage hulk, Mindless Hulk, Bannerless Hulk and so on. Its a testimony to how ignorant are you to Hulk's history.
Superman was massively weakened by the beating he took from Zod and then the nuclear radiation replaced solar radiation in his body. At least he wasn't vaporized like Maestro was and he was supposed to be twice as strong as a normal hulk at his base.
In the scan I put up it states Hulk is weakened. I'm going to say this one more time before ignoring you completely (I don't have the patience to put up with your mess like Rage does)...Show me something that states he isn't weakened anymore or concede. Also...lol at you comparing this Hulk to the other Hulks.
Pak didn't spoil anything. This Hulk is doing just fine and has proven to me that he is above Superman.
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