point is, superman got the hulk beat all round dude. it justa matter if willing to accept it. and for they record, i dont have any superman play out fits, now underwear on the other hand.........
"What are u talking about realistic they are comic books "
You said in this thread before that Hulk would lose in space coz he couldn't jump and when I said it's just a comic you said it doesn't matter.
Shut up you hypocrite.
"of course, it would be utterly ridicululous to have him use both speed and str in a battle, as many have said it would be pointless"
Exactly. So why are we still going on? DC picked what they believed were his most powerful, beneficial and believable attributes and used them. He lost. You are just going by if's.
"point is, superman got the hulk beat all round dude. "
Why do people keep dismissing the fact that Hulk beat Superman. Actually beat him. In a comic. Twice.
Holy crap he wont stop its like he is the hulks lover, First off the space thing i stated because the hulk has been punched into space by cosmic spiderman and he was stuck up there secound off how can u argue when the hulk is beaten all the way around and second in the comic it wasnt a clean cut victory superman wasnt laying on the ground bloody and knocked not to mention dont even say superman was using all of his abilities because if he was hulk wouldnt of been able to hit him out but in the other comics it was a clean victory twice
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Good one. Oh boy hahaha. Coming from you that was pretty rich.
Anyway, Mosh Titan I believe you were saying Superman never beat the Hulk.
"Yes, hulk does throw superman into space, but that doesnt mean hulk won."
Hulk came out better off, constitutes victory. Also, the 2nd bout, I never said Superman never put a beating on Hulk. I said Hulk won. Yeah Superman does alot but when does Hulk ever get anything done to him beyond disorientation? Never. He actually says nothing can stop The Hulk. Superman needed Hulk at the end more than Hulk needed Superman. You aren't proving that Superman gets a victory or beats Hulk. You are proving what I admitted back in the early pages. That Superman does put a whooping down. Hulk is unphased by any of it enough to give Superman the victory. It's plain to see.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Sorry, not to you Mosh. I think you're cool. That was to the joke Supermandaman said.
What about that MArvel DC crossover Entitled versus. This was the one about the whole brothers being the universe thing. Hulk was matched up against superman, and he came out with his tough talk and superman laid waste of him.In fact if i can quote Supes he said, "he took everything I had and almost stood up to it, nothing left now"
then we see the Hulks hand laying under a pile of rubble. to my know;edge that one had nothing to do with fan voting
"then we see the Hulks hand laying under a pile of rubble. to my know;edge that one had nothing to do with fan voting"
To my knowledge it did. Because Superman won, very famously, as voted by the fans.
"He wasn't holding back against Doomsday."
Exactly. The one modelled to be like The Hulk. He wasn't holding back against him. Which does raise a startling point doesn't it?
The one time Superman gave it his ALL. What happened? He won sure. But he died. He ran outta gas. He took a walk. He kicked the bucket. Whatever you wanna say, he died.
Maybe this is why he holds back. Coz he knows he can't go as far as people think.
"Alright i think doomsday is a lil tougher than hulk."
Rip offs are never tougher. Hulk owns Doomsday and that's a cold hard fact.
Either way, Superman said himself that to fight The Hulk you'd have to be insane. Superman KNOWS about The Hulk so he knows he'd never be able to afford to hold back against him. You're crumbling. Leave it be.
How do u figure it was fan vote and not to mention if marvel and dc both aproved it then its a victory, As i have said before superman is stronger than the hulk faster and more durable and doomsday is kryptonian like superman so he is just as strong and as fast not to mention he is just a big mass of invulnerable muscle and he has sharp bones coming out of his fist and everywhere else so that is also is an advantage
Coz......it was voted for by fans? It's a well known fact that Superman beat Hulk by fan vote. To be honest, with people like you running around quoting Marvel Encyclopedia and NO comic material whatsoever, I'm not surprised he won.
"As i have said before superman is stronger than the hulk"
And as I have proven before, you're wrong. He's not. Faster, yes. Stronger, no.
"he has sharp bones coming out of his fist and everywhere else so that is also is an advantage"
Superman is affected by mere bone? Hulk takes adamantium claws to the gut and laughs.
Superman is stronger than hulk, but hulk has the potential to be stronger. also if hulk and doomsday ever met (assuming this wasnt a smart version of the hulk) hulk would win their first battle, maybee the second but there would come a point in time when doomsday would be able to beat hulk based on fighting alone. Doomsdays bones arent mere bone. Thery actually pierced Supermans skin. A feat hulk has never accomplished. if one is able to even make superman bleed then that being is a formidable match for anyone, because superman is invulnerable. . Doomsdays also much faster than Hulk. Doomsdays bones can be extended, and he is far more fierce than hulk. Im not taking doomsdays side, but everyone underestimates Doomsday.
First off did u write to the author of the comic and ask him if it was fan voted second off the most we have ever seen hulk lift is that mountain that we are always reminded of so what superman moved a planet out of its orbit. Face it if superman used every one of his abilities hulk would go down so fast he would know what happened.
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"First off did u write to the author of the comic and ask him if it was fan voted "
Do you actually own any comics? Serious. Because everyone.......EVERYONE knows, it's comic knowledge, that Superman beat Hulk by fan vote. That whole comic was fan voted. It's even mentioned in the blurb or synopsis I'm sure. Either way, it's know that it's fan voted. It is, just coz you don't...it doesn't mean it isn't. You say is Superman used all his powers. The reason he doesn't is coz the writers themselves know how flawed he is as a character. Not because he holds back, as much as you LOVE to think so.
"Superman is stronger than hulk, but hulk has the potential to be stronger."
Hit the nail right on the head there. Which is why I consistently and vehemently back Hulk's strength. Because he could ALWAYS get stronger. Emotions are like numbers, infinate. So none of that he can get SO mad. I could just say, but he could get a bit madder. Which he could. The point is, against Superman, who would give him a heck of a fight and has done. Never have I denied it, he'd EASILY reach new heights of anger and strength quickly purely on the basis of:
A) Knowing who he is up against. Coz Hulk in the comics is no longer the complete dumb brute he was. Yet is stronger than ever, I believe.
B) Due to the beatings both would sustain and give, he would get stronger bu default. To endure it.
"if one is able to even make superman bleed then that being is a formidable match for anyone, because superman is invulnerable"
Doomsday's protruding spikes couldn't pierce Surfer, coz Surfer is infact invulnerable. If Superman were invulnerable he wouldn't have been cut.
"Doomsdays also much faster than Hulk."
That story is likely. Hulk is more agile though. So, they both cancel each other out.
"Doomsdays bones can be extended, and he is far more fierce than hulk. Im not taking doomsdays side, but everyone underestimates Doomsday."
Have you read Hulk #52 when he fights Abomination? I don't believe Doomsday is more fierce than Hulk. Wild yes. Wild and fierce are different though. I know Doomsday is a worthy adversary but he isn't as good as people thought/think. He didn't survive Superman. Superman didn't survive the battle but he survived Doomsday long enough to see the battle out.
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