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grey fox
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hmmmmmmm predator/sith/angsty batman replacement versus Porter/symbiote/chi guy the stakes are verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry high.


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Originally posted by grey fox
hmmmmmmm predator/sith/angsty batman replacement versus Porter/symbiote/chi guy the stakes are verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry high.

The stakes are verrrrry high and someone is gonna leave a meessssyyyy corpse. big grin evil face

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Lol !!


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Originally posted by Khellendros
I can seal the breaches as fast as you can make them, and let us not forget Blink's powers. If I so choose, I can and will redirect your shots back at you if there's a risk they will hit me. Also, my trusty staff is always at hand, for redirections and melee if needed. This thing survived being plunged into the heart of the sun, so I think it'll hold up well to a lightsaber. Also, if you get past my shield, you're just as likely to get torn open with a big blast of chi.

By the way, how well do lightsabers to against energy fields? I know they don't generally cut other lightsabers, and they actually deflect laser blasts instead of letting it pass through. I'm starting to doubt you'll even be able to cut through my forcefield in the first place.


In order to redirect my energy blasts, they have to get through your forcefield in the first place, and which point I can capitalize with barrages of pistol burner rounds to the area around your feet. The plasma 'splashes' (More of a grenade effect) and will cause you damage just by being in the close proximity.

If your field will stand up to my lightsaber or my Magnesium alloy (Gonna guess it's with Promethium, since it stood up to promethium) sword then it's against tournament rules. Lightsabers are ruled as being on par with adamantium for the sakes of damage and such.

Big blast of chi? Chi is energy, lightsabers reflect energy. Chi splashes on contact? Armor can take any sort of damage your chi dishes out. Dachande was hit by a speeder bike, rammed into the spaceship that carried his entire hunting party, and survived the explosion with no damage to his armor and only losing consciousness, no visible injuries whatsoever.

Azrael's padding stood up to a roughly 25 foot tall christmas tree covered with C4 from about 10-15 feet away. Of course, he lost consciousness and the parts of his body that weren't covered were severly burned, but the armor took the blow and he survived.

Your staff can hold up to the lightsaber just fine, it's a matter of standing up to the master weilding said lighstaber that you should be worrying about. Dachande dropped a master predator on one of his first hunts in a honor fight for leadership. Azrael went toe to toe with Deathstroke in a sword fight. Maul took on Qui-Gon and Obi-wan simultaneously, he's also dropped many of the universe's most dangerous assassins. I've got plenty of H2H skills here, hell, that's my specialty.


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votin for khell, i believe that khell will have the advantage with blink

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Nah , khell can teleport as much as he wants but in the end he's gonna end up shishkebab to nataku.


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khell can teleport anything that comes his way

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Originally posted by stormfront13
khell can teleport anything that comes his way


True, but only if he can react to it in time and intercept it.

...didn't want people getting the wrong idea. It's all in the character notes for khell on pg. 1


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well he should also have enhanced reflexes

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MNer's a friggin beast. His presence totally eliminates any surprises that Nataku might decide to pull out, where Grailnighter still has plenty of tricks that Nat won't know about. The portal-behind-his-head thing won't work because of the Force, but I really don't see much of anything hitting Grailnighter either. (Midnighter+Blink... yeah) H2H, Khell has a massive strength advantage, plus the benefits of a force field. Skill wise, Nataku might edge him out by a bit, but Khell can pretty easily overpower him, IMO. The maneuverability advantage also goes to Khellendros for the teleporting. Again, the gap is cut down by the Force and Azrael's system, but I'd still say the scale leans toward Khell.

Voting Khellendros


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Originally posted by Nataku8188
In order to redirect my energy blasts, they have to get through your forcefield in the first place, and which point I can capitalize with barrages of pistol burner rounds to the area around your feet. The plasma 'splashes' (More of a grenade effect) and will cause you damage just by being in the close proximity.

Another thing occured to me. You're firing energy blasts. Plasma is basically just really hot stuff. Now, if my shield was actually titanium, you would eventually be able to punch through it. But it isn't it's an energy field that has about the same strength as titanium. I sure hope you've got some examples of Pred plasma punching through energy shields, cause you can't melt through energy.

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Originally posted by Nataku8188
If your field will stand up to my lightsaber or my Magnesium alloy (Gonna guess it's with Promethium, since it stood up to promethium) sword then it's against tournament rules. Lightsabers are ruled as being on par with adamantium for the sakes of damage and such.

No, actually it isn't. Lightsabers do allt heir damage because of their heat. You cant melt through an energy field, and you aren't strong enough to just hammer through the equivalent of a titanium sphere. Wheee technicalities are fun.

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Originally posted by Nataku8188
Big blast of chi? Chi is energy, lightsabers reflect energy.

His chi blasts are a lot larger and more fluid than, say, a laser blast. He can even change their direction in midflight (there will be scans). So, at best all you'll do is split the blast in half, at worst I see what you're doing and cause the blast to move around your 'saber.


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Chi splashes on contact? Armor can take any sort of damage your chi dishes out. Dachande was hit by a speeder bike, rammed into the spaceship that carried his entire hunting party, and survived the explosion with no damage to his armor and only losing consciousness, no visible injuries whatsoever.

Whoa, that is awesome! Too bad it's kinda invalid in this tourney. Titanium strength/melting point limit. And, hell, why hit the Pred armor when I can punch through your little Nomex suit in the places the plates don't cover with spikes formed out of my shield? Yeah, I think I'll do that instead of bothering with your plate armor.

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Azrael's padding stood up to a roughly 25 foot tall christmas tree covered with C4 from about 10-15 feet away. Of course, he lost consciousness and the parts of his body that weren't covered were severly burned, but the armor took the blow and he survived.

Chi spikes backed up by class 30 strength are gonna pack a bit more of a punch than a bunch of burning wooden shrapnel.

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Your staff can hold up to the lightsaber just fine, it's a matter of standing up to the master weilding said lighstaber that you should be worrying about. Dachande dropped a master predator on one of his first hunts in a honor fight for leadership. Azrael went toe to toe with Deathstroke in a sword fight. Maul took on Qui-Gon and Obi-wan simultaneously, he's also dropped many of the universe's most dangerous assassins. I've got plenty of H2H skills here, hell, that's my specialty.

Hmm. Well, I've got a man trained in every martial art in the world, another martial artist with enhancements that work just as well in combat as your force, and the skills and agility of Blink, who dodges blasts about as well as Daredevil. There is nothing you can do that I won't have already thought of and planned a countermove for.

Here we have Grail redirecting a chi blast. holds his arm up, arcs the blast out and down into the ground.
http://img461.imageshack.us/my.php?...lities1a1we.jpg

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As much as I would like to see Khell fall right now it seems he has the upperhand in this fight.
YOur guy is good melee and has strong long range attacks but it really doesn't help you much in this fight as according to your debating I think he can easily get behind you and end this match almost.
Don't worry though Khell thanks to DS being in Mauker he is immortal so you will never be rid of him.
Voting Khell


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I thought lightsabres cut because they were closed gravity loops. I'm not sure where I heard that though. I imagine it'd be like a mega-sandblaster firing up and around in the shape of a sword.


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If you can move your blast mid shot, how is that not TK? If you can manipulate your shield, how is that not TK? You are using your mental abilities to manipulate something without actually being in contact with me.

If your shield is energy, and you say lightsabers only can't go through it because of the heat, then why not use my normal sword? If that can't pierce your shield, then dare I say that the shield is overpowered? I mean, immune to energy, immune to heat, immune to metals, jeez, what can break through it, big wads of feces?

Batman was trained in every martial art in the world, that didn't help him much at all against Azrael. Explain to me how your enhancements are the equivalent of being able to sense movements as they happen, with the ability to react within the time it takes the movement to actually be done. It's like this;

I (Me personally) am trying to throw a ball into a hoop. You move it as I throw and I miss. Loki is trying to throw the ball into the hoop, he senses your body as it begins to move the hoop (That fraction of a second it takes your muscles to react to your neural impulses) and is already throwing where he has calculated you're moving the hoop. Swish.

The only thing that you can come close to surprising me with would be a teleport, as the instant you are gone I no longer know where you are, yet the System is letting me focus so completely on the force that I sense you behind me the instant you are there. Considering my guy isn't going to just be standing around as you move, I'll definitly be in an awkward position for you already, and it only takes a fraction of a second to rearrange myself.

Your guy dodges as well as Daredevil? Dachande puts Daredevil to shame. Going toe to toe with a pack of aliens would put DD down in seconds, the fact that they swarm, all attacking with claws and tail, even four aliens is 12 limbs you have to worry about. Nevermind the fact that now he has the Force System to boost his capabilities.


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If Khell is using mental abilities to manipulate objects remotely, it can't be allowed....it's not close to TK, it IS TK.

And any energy blast will do melting and/or concussive/piercing force depending on the type of blow it is. Lightsabers will be able to rend the force-field, though the field would slow them somewhat and possibly take more than one blow to break.


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Originally posted by Nataku8188
Batman was trained in every martial art in the world, that didn't help him much at all against Azrael.


It helped when Batman beat his ass. smile

And teleportation won't help much, especially in this fight. You'd have to teleport around the meat and stuff.

Remember, this is a giant meat locker.


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I thought lightsabres cut because they were closed gravity loops. I'm not sure where I heard that though. I imagine it'd be like a mega-sandblaster firing up and around in the shape of a sword.


http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/lightsaber1.htm


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Khell, I think I need to know what you are classifying "Chi" as before I can vote.

Is Chi magic, or bio-electricity of some sort?


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Chi is Chi.... it's spiritual... not magic, but not bio-electric.... life force kinda stuff

(Electro can't control it)

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Chi is soul-power...so magic.


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