I'm not trying to enter the debate, but meerly giving a reason for my vote. Since you begged the question though, I'll ask it. How do you intend to have continued opportunities for your big attack without leaving opennings for Grailnighter to riposte?
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You need one hit on his body to kill him. (Debatable, actually. Some symbiotes DID take a mountain blowing up around them. The barbs would do it in one shot, but he might take a smack or three from the tentacles and other smaller hits, even when shieldless)
When he has a tourney limit-pushing forcefield, which he has demonstrated extremely good control of, combined with amazing reactions, dodging ability, and teleportation. (meaning it won't be taking very steady amounts of damage) That's what I meant by "he won't be taking many hits".
You saying you could one hit KO him is like him saying he could one hit kill you... Which he could... If your armor and forcefields were all gone. But they're not, just as his are not.
GODLIKE is much much faster. As was Shaiclops. Both are more than double your speed. Fastest in the tourney my arse.
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No. Not at all, actually. My point missed the mark completely, then.
He has nothing in his arsenal(Of energy or otherwise) that can penetrate my shields and the Hulk proof armor and into energy resistant flesh..... in one hit and do serious damage....ZERO.
As for Shocktopus:
His Adamantium super sharp coils, when backed by the velocity and power of the rockets(they are propelled by rockets, and strong enough to go straight through Hulk), can cut through his shields and anything he has like butter, lodging themselves like hooks inside his body. THEN, I unload all the electricity in my body into his. He dies.....no coming back from it*.
The chances are very high that I will get this attack, seeing I have other weapons to overwhelm him, and with the Ock Arm's A.I, I won't be multi tasking no where nearly as much as Khell's says he can (Did you know Grailnighter can multi task FTL? :rolleyes), which gives me the advantage of accuracy for my De La Ultimo attack.
Maybe I explained it less than coherent the first time.
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Now, let's say he prays hard enough and somehow TOAA grants him permission to survive that attack by magic.....even TOAA won't be silly enough to let him make it through and still be conscious. I can then REEL him in with crazy speed and chop him straight in half.
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Last edited by long pig on Nov 5th, 2005 at 05:37 AM
Couple things, just to clarify (as always, I don't want to take sides, even though what I have to say may be for or against one person).
The displacement effect from Blink's projectiles, if they were to hit LP, would do damage. How much, who knows...but eventually it would get through. I doubt that changes LP's strategy (or Khell's for that matter), but I wanted to mention it. And secondly, Speedfreek's armor, while thick, is titanium-strength (except for the blades which are adamantium). The "Hulk-proof" label that keeps getting added to it might be a a bit misleading.
Here's that post I promised, full of scan-ly goodness. Apologies in advance to the 56K voters out there.
SPEED: LP says he can basically speedblitz me. Here's the reaction time of a couple of my characters (some will be reposts).
Midnighter-
The aforementiond dodging energy blast from point blank range from an expert enhanced marskman. Casually, I might add.http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=speed32cx.jpg
Clears a room of several guys before any of them can react (notice the wine glass in the middle left behind the chair. It's still spilling by the time she's finished kicking ass). http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skills42rh.jpg
I am faster than him. My shields are stronger that his (he has NO showings to back up his shield's supposed strength). I teleport. I am far FAR more mobile. I have wide arc, Cyclops level energy blast. My shield's won't conduct electricity and I've already shown them reflecting lasers with no problem. None of his barbs or mechanical arms will even get close, even WITHOUT my teleportation.
He has no proof of one shield's strength. He can't even prove Electro has a shield. His armor leaves his head exposed, so my chi will burn the flesh from his skull. He keeps making claims and can't back them up. time and again, I back up everything I say, on demand even. He is so outmatched, it's sad. He's got a loser drug junkie, an idiot who Spiderman punks ALL the time and a chick with a shield that's almost never been used in comics. I win in every area, except blasting myself forward like a big tentacled rocket, easily dodged or teleported around.
Last edited by Khellendros on Nov 5th, 2005 at 06:54 AM
Yeah I'm voting for khell . Mostly because what he says makes sense and the whole 'Multi tentacle , electro fired, barb slice ,propelled by rocket thing' sounds kinda far-fetched.
Hey , i was just waiting to see who gave the better argument , and as cool as long pig's sounded . It didn't really sound realistic, i mean if the rocket boosters must allow barely any movement (at least for a while) so whats to stop grailnighter from just hopping out the way.
i know Doc Ock (the real one) has recently added A.I. to his tentacles.... but i don't remember the female Ock having it..... could be wrong though (i'll check later)