I have a number of obviouse clues to prove he's alive, well not fully dead more or less.
1) He planned the whole fake death from the onset of the book.
Proof: We learn through the book how good he is at speculating reactions of Voldemort even though he knows little about him. Thence we should deduce he would definatly know Harry's reactions. So by freezing Harry ha allowed a scene to take place without Harry's intervention. Remember Dumbledore tells Harry to keep his Invisibility cloak with him all the time, and orders him to put it on before they go to the tower. He also allows certain information to reach Harry through Hagrid which whom he trusts his life with.
2) Dumbledore a product of Living Death Draught
Proof: What was the strange draught Harry forced him to drink? Could it be the Living Death Draught which is prominently featured in this book. Also the only potion not actually used by anyone in the book (Or so we are mislead). He looks awfully dead at the end to Harry, but Hagrid takes him away and his body is only assumed to be carried to the tomb. And of course as many point out, where is his wand?
3) Snape's on Dumbledore's side for real
Proof: One single line of text helps clearify everything. When Narcissa and Bella go to Snape's house, wormtail is there. AND he is rubbing his arm which is covered in a silver glove. Why tell us this? Oh thats right it just so happens Dumbledore's got something wrong with his arm and hand as well. Could Dumbledore be impersonating wormtail. Definately. Also why doesn't Snape admit he knows that Harry has the Half Blood Prince's book (Which was his). Well simply because it was planted for Harry to have it all along. Why? Well Hermoine is the only one that trusts Snape. But she can't stand whoever owned the HBP book and thinks he's evil. Of course when she finds out it was Snape, she turns on him. Which makes her a valuable testament as well as Harry and Ron. Oh and why exactly does Snape goad Harry into learning to do spells without speaking them. Because he wants Harry to win. Lots of people think Snape's revulsion at killing Dumbledore is because he really hates him, actually he doesn't really find the idea of joining Voldemort and slinking around behind his back very enjoyable, would you?
Those are only a few things. I could elaborate and certainly answer any questions you naysayers might have!!!
You have built up some fair arguements there, but nothing conclusive. There is plenty of evidence to argue the opposite (but it has been mentioned countless time in other threads, so I won't bother).
I like the idea that the living death draught was planted there by members of the order of the phoenix (perhaps RAB is three people? R could be Remus, B could be Black) as part of an elaborate scheme against the Dark Lord.
I have a speculation on RAB, Regulus ? Black, Serius brother. Lupin mentions that he dissappeared a couple of days after deserting the death eaters .... "as far as he remembers" or something like that. Why wouldn't he remember more clearly? And last time I checked dissappeared doesn't equal dead. Plus this would be a great way to redeem Serius Black and the Black name. Remember the other key part of that text is deserting the death eaters. Oh and right after Lupin says this Mrs. Weasely hushes him... Interesting eh?
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Crap... how did I not notice that... You went further on my idea of being three people...
Anyway, great ideas, but I don't know. We know Snape is on his side, yes. But the potion idea, though great, is kinda off. Exactly what this person said. Your first reason made no sense to me so I can't say much on that. Presonally, I think he is dead... though that might also be because I want him to be dead. (Don't yell at me for that people, it is a book. Besides, I have my reasons for wanting it, but this isn't the time nor place for it.)
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I give it could have been that potion, but I still have doubts for another of reasons -
-First it took quite some time to take effect, and if it was part of some bigger scheme to fake Dumbledore's death it seems it relied on alot of luck and miraculously good timing - I mean that he goes into his death like sleep just at the moment Snape cast a killing spell? Very, very risky.
-Second, Snape cast a killing spell at almost point blank range - could anyone have survived that (unless it's a special case like Harry)
-Thirdly, He fell off a really, really tall tower. To the ground. While dead or asleep - I don't know, but if the spell didn't kill him, and the potion didn't, I'd have thought that would.
-Surely with all those knowledgeable witches and wizards about someone would have realised he wasn't dead, even if it was a really deep death like sleep like the potion causes. I mean they had Slughorn, the one potion master who might be better even then Snape.
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1) If you go back and read that part of the book, you can see Dumbledore is having an extremely hard time to keep traveling and not fall over.
2) Did Snape really cast a killing curse? Why were inaudible spells stressed so much throughout the book? Could it have been that Snape was, in his mind, secretly saying another spell, not the killing curse? And that leads me to the next point. You are right; Dumbledore flew over the ramparts. Since when did Avada Kedavra cause someone to fly over stuff. It has always been described as a quick death, not one that kills you in a burst of force and green sparks. Oh, and Rowling also says he looks "suspended in midair" for a moment, before falling "slowly" over the ramparts. Snape's secret curse?
3) And if Slughorn knew? He is part of the Order.
4) Dumbledore is described twice has looking sleepy or tired. Once before he is hit with the curse, and once when he is lying on the ground.
I'll find the link to the thread where I've already brought up these points and more if you're interested. I'm not saying Dumbledore's alive, but many things have made me re-think the ending of the book.
EDIT: Here's where we talk some about Harry being a Horcrux:
And here is when I really start pointing out some unusual stuff. Read this page, the next page, and then after that if you want, but definitely the first two.
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Okay, I'm just going to say this. When you do a the killing curse, you have to mean it, so if Snape didn't mean it, it wouldn't have killed DD, but the fall would've.
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i would really love it if u creators of dumbledoreisnotdead.com could atleast post ur email addresses in that website, i think i found a few clues myself.
OK, if you need to know who thse people are:
Rubeus= RUBEUS Hagrid
Remus= REMUS Lupin
Regulus= REGULUS black
Aberforth= dumbledore's brother and the bartender of the hogs Head
Alastor= mad eye moody
Albus= dumbledore
Avery= a death eater (I think deceased)
Black= Sirius/ regulus etc.
Bones= susasn bones, Hogwarts student. I think her family's been mentioned somewhere...
Bilius= Ron's uncle and ron's own middle name
Bartemius= Crouch, Sr and Jr
Bagman= Ludo vbagman, gambling MoM guy in GoF
Bellatrix= Le Strange, Death eter, Sirius' killer and cousin
Any reason to these?
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I'm not into all these long, factual posts as such and seeing as I haven't read a single HP book I can't make an educated decision. But my instinc tells me they won't bring him back. You'll probably have a go at me for that but hey. I agree with Derek. Can't characters die in peace without people contemplating if they will come back? He's dead ok. D-E-A-D Anyways. You can be angry if he does come back, though.
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Nov 17th, 2005 08:48 PM
HE'S NOT GAY!!! 
Anyways. You can be angry if he does come back, though.
