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derek_the_derek
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i agree with u beck4bj


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my own theory anout dumbledore's death:

snape verball told avada kadabra but non verball cast the expelliarmus spell, which made dumbledore bounce backwards. also if u read the last sentence of the lightning struck tower, you will be able to find that dumbledore fell out of the battlements and out of sight."out of sight"? if dumbledore fell out of sight, then dumbledore could have easily dishuised somebody else has him by using the polyjuice potion or something. he did this to make voldemort think that harry was more vulnerable than ever and it would be the perfect time to affect him. personally i think that dumbledore used the polyjuice potion on either fawkes or aragog,cause J.K.R. never includes sth in her books which is completely useless.

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No , the odl guy is dead , if the spell didn't do it the fall did.


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harry wiped BLOOD of him. Dead people DON'T BLEED and the Avada kadavra DOESN'T SEND PEOPLE FLYING OVER BATTLEMENTS! OK? He's as alive as you or me... well no... he's a fictional character but... yeah... but he's fictionally alive...


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you lot have no life


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Originally posted by Knightfall93
harry wiped BLOOD of him. Dead people DON'T BLEED and the Avada kadavra DOESN'T SEND PEOPLE FLYING OVER BATTLEMENTS! OK? He's as alive as you or me... well no... he's a fictional character but... yeah... but he's fictionally alive...


What do you mean dead people don't bleed? Of course they bleed. If they are killed from an external wound, it's bleeding that usually kills them.

As for the Ava Kadavra curse sending people off over battlements, J.K Rowling never really describes how the Ava Kadavra curse acts upon its victims except in the scene where Moody kills the spider. Howver, if you recall correctly, most spells, if performed forcefully enough often send people flying even if that is not the pupose of the spell. An example of this is in the third book when Harry, Ron, and Hermione all cast the disarming spell at once against Snape and it sends him across the room and knocks him out. Also in book six, when they are practicing nonverbal spells, Harry casts a shielding charm that is so strong it knocks Snape back. This may have been why, when a powerful wizard like Snape cast it, it sent Dumbledoor over the edge. And finally, if the Ava Kadavra curse does in fact not send people flying, this inconsistency was probably written in by J.K. Rowling simpoy for dramatic effect.


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Yeah, and there are many witnesses who saw Snape killing Dumbledore, plus Snape's fingerprints are all over the murder weapon which is registered to him. Come on, nobody knows anything, everyone's guessing, these are just theories. Nobody knows how Avada Kedavra works. It's a fact and it's logical that bleeding out leads to death, but since when is it logical that the cause of death can be two words? I don't think it's a good idea to turn to real-life facts in this case. It's like arguing about how can someone turn into a dog without changing their DNA structure. Don't let reality mess up fantasy.


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DUMBLEDORE IS DEAD , they buried the guy in a freaking tomb , aside from a brain munching zombie dumble's isn't coming back.


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What a positive thought.


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Actually, noone sees Dummy at the funeral.


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What do you mean dead people don't bleed? Of course they bleed. If they are killed from an external wound, it's bleeding that usually kills them.

As for the Ava Kadavra curse sending people off over battlements, J.K Rowling never really describes how the Ava Kadavra curse acts upon its victims except in the scene where Moody kills the spider. Howver, if you recall correctly, most spells, if performed forcefully enough often send people flying even if that is not the pupose of the spell. An example of this is in the third book when Harry, Ron, and Hermione all cast the disarming spell at once against Snape and it sends him across the room and knocks him out. Also in book six, when they are practicing nonverbal spells, Harry casts a shielding charm that is so strong it knocks Snape back. This may have been why, when a powerful wizard like Snape cast it, it sent Dumbledoor over the edge. And finally, if the Ava Kadavra curse does in fact not send people flying, this inconsistency was probably written in by J.K. Rowling simpoy for dramatic effect.
JK never really describes how Ava Kavavra works, but she did how AVADA KEDAVRA works!


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You have built up some fair arguements there, but nothing conclusive. There is plenty of evidence to argue the opposite (but it has been mentioned countless time in other threads, so I won't bother).

I like the idea that the living death draught was planted there by members of the order of the phoenix (perhaps RAB is three people? R could be Remus, B could be Black) as part of an elaborate scheme against the Dark Lord.

I like the idea of R.A.B being [R]emus [A]nd [B]lack


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Originally posted by Knightfall93
harry wiped BLOOD of him. Dead people DON'T BLEED and the Avada kadavra DOESN'T SEND PEOPLE FLYING OVER BATTLEMENTS! OK? He's as alive as you or me... well no... he's a fictional character but... yeah... but he's fictionally alive...

1.) They bleed if they're freshly dead.

2.) And spells work far better if they're said out loud. Which he did.


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me bored

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me bored


Meg, please try to add something into the conversation to move the discussion along instead of just spamming. If you want to just post things like this, please visit the Off Topic Boards.

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JK never really describes how Ava Kavavra works, but she did how AVADA KEDAVRA works!


Oh really? What does she say?? tell us all about it!


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To join this absurdity, two words can't kill anyone. All I'm saying is this is fiction, so we shouldn't rely on real-life facts.


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Dumbledore i think is really dead. When someone gets hit by Avada Kedavra or something they just die. If Dumbledore was against the edge, he might have fallen backwards. He probably fell out of sight because it was NIGHT TIME. When someone hits the ground, they are dead, and they pretty much start BLEEDING if they hit the ground from such a high place up.
I still like to hope that dumbledore is alive though...


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Meg, please try to add something into the conversation to move the discussion along instead of just spamming. If you want to just post things like this, please visit the Off Topic Boards.

Thanks.

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