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scurran
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Question dumbledore

i know youve head this before but im absolutely sure tha DD has a horcrux, there are little hints that JK gives us:
1. he is very old, he is 150 so he could have one(every one has a past)
2. He opposes them alot, so that could mean he regrets it
3. in the first book he tells prof mc gonagall that he trusts hagrid with his life, could this mean that hagrid has it hidden?
4. fawkes is always there and could be IT!

(just a few thoughts)

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dumbledore would never commit murder.


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Originally posted by scurran
i know youve head this before but im absolutely sure tha DD has a horcrux, there are little hints that JK gives us:
1. he is very old, he is 150 so he could have one(every one has a past)
2. He opposes them alot, so that could mean he regrets it
3. in the first book he tells prof mc gonagall that he trusts hagrid with his life, could this mean that hagrid has it hidden?
4. fawkes is always there and could be IT!

(just a few thoughts)

1.) Where in the bloody hell did you get that he was 150?
2.) Tom got the idea for them. He didn't want any others to take interest.
3.) He said that because he wants the readers to see the extent of his trust in the half-giant, unwavering.
4.) The essence of Phoenixes never gets destroyed.


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I've read that hes 150 numerous times.


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I've read that hes 150 numerous times.

From where? Unless it's from J.K. Rowling herself or listed in one of the books, it's pretty much made-up stuff or rumors.


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JKR said he was about 150 in one of her interviews. cant remember which one.


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From where? Unless it's from J.K. Rowling herself or listed in one of the books, it's pretty much made-up stuff or rumors.

He's definitely 150, Mcgonagall is in her 70s, Snape in his 30s.

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I'm sure its stated in the books.


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He's definitely 150, Mcgonagall is in her 70s, Snape in his 30s.


thats it!

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He's 150 then, but he's no horcrux. If that were the case, then Voldemort wouldn't have shot killing curses in their duel in the Department of Mysteries.


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He's 150 then, but he's no horcrux. If that were the case, then Voldemort wouldn't have shot killing curses in their duel in the Department of Mysteries.

why not?


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because once the original person is dead, its much harder to find his horcruxes, not to mention that if dumbledore did have horcruxes though, its not certain that voldy would know and know not to kill dumbledore. dumbledore is-sorry was-sniff-the most powerfull wizard, if anyone could conceal a horcrux, he could!

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why not?

Because Voldemort would've been in a duel with a portion of his own soul. I hardly think he'd rashly destroy it so readily.


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If Dumbledore had a horcrux, he wouldnt have needed harry to find out what it was from Sludgehorn


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It's not so weird that Dumbledore is 150 years old, magic people just get much older then normal people...

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He's 150 then, but he's no horcrux. If that were the case, then Voldemort wouldn't have shot killing curses in their duel in the Department of Mysteries.


he did, but fawkes swallowed it

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Originally posted by Council#13
If Dumbledore had a horcrux, he wouldnt have needed harry to find out what it was from Sludgehorn


dumbledore already knew about the hocruxes, beacuse he had the ring and the diary

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Dumbledore deafeated Grindelwald remember? On the chocolate frog card. So he did murder someone.


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he did, but fawkes swallowed it

My point being, he wouldn't have attempted to kill Dumbledore if Dumbledore was a horcrux.


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I think whats being said is not that Dumbledore WAS a horcrux, rather that he has one - so Voldermort could fight him, but if he killed Dumbledore then Dumbledore wouldn't really be dead (rather I guess he would be in the state Voldermort was before his resurrection.) One assumes no one would know this (who would think a great and good wizard would have such a dark secret?)

And Dumbledore does know about them, he just needed Slughorn's memory to confirm his suspicions and reveal Tom Riddle's intentions (the seven horcrux theory.) And he is old, probably battled and killed dark wizards at some point, so I guess there's a chance.

Still, I don't think he would have made one. It doesn't seem like something Dumbledore would do, after all, he has the whole thing about not being scared of death, about there being worse things then death (though that could refer to the horcrux unlife I guess) and it doesn't really fit in narratively, if it turns out Dumbledore is alive thanks to dark and evil magic utilised by people like Voldermort, well it's just not in character. Of course it could be asked why he is so against them if he hasn't one and seen what it's like, well I think if he fought and defeated at least one powerful dark wizard (Grindelwald in 1945) he may have seen them in action, perhaps Grindelwald had a horcrux? Perhaps Gridelwald was a Nazi, though that's beside the point, although it would be nice to think Dumbledore fought against the Nazis. That'll teach 'em.

And beside, doesn't the splitting of the soul have effects on the person, both physical and mental? Granted he wouldn't have done it enough to end up looking like Voldermort, but in terms of personality and physical appearance it just doesn't look likely.

As to Dumbledore's age, I too have heard it put at 150 or more, but then perhaps we can deduce it. We know he was around in 1945, and probably had finished school and was powerful enough to defeat a dark wizard (which warranted being recorded on the frog card, so a powerful dark wizard), I'm thinking at least 19 or 20 years of age, most likely a lot more. Likewise, he worked with Nicolas Flamel, who was 665 thanks to the philosophers stone, how long did he work with Flamel? Probably not for 600 years, but a few, he was called his partner after all, and there are no indications he worked with him while he was headmaster, or maybe even as teacher at Hogwarts, so prior to working there (how long has Dumbledore been at Hogwarts?.)


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