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I'm not being condescending, Shaun Ryder and The Happy Mondays are lame. You disagree and that's fine.

You're also basing this on the fact that you were "around" and interested when it happened. So you've been compromised. Like people who think Cliff Richard writes good christmas songs.

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Not really ccompromised as I believe all songwriting is a product of its time to a point, and means more to those that lived through that time.

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Not really compromised as I believe all songwriting is a product of its time to a point, and means more to those that lived through that time.

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Jan 7th, 2006 01:14 PM

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I think of my favorite bands ore are British than American.....but then again that doesn't say much anyways.

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The UK, of course.

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Not really ccompromised as I believe all songwriting is a product of its time to a point, and means more to those that lived through that time.

I meant compromised in the sense of how a lady is biased toward a guy she likes or how someone is biased toward someone they're friends with.

You were there so your view isn't objective.

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You were there so your view isn't objective.

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But everyone has some time they were "there" so everyones view is biased to some extend. And there are many people who don't even like the music made in their time. But since "Better Band" is only an opinion anyways it doesn't really matter.

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But everyone has some time they were "there" so everyones view is biased to some extend. And there are many people who don't even like the music made in their time. But since "Better Band" is only an opinion anyways it doesn't really matter.

exactly my point Bardock. However if you are looking for long term influence in music the UK, I think has done more.

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Better band isn't always opinion, first of all. In this case it is.

Secondly Bardock, the type of music that Whirly refers to is only novelty. It was only good BECAUSE he was there for it. Grunge has passed, but it's still excellent today. The Happy Mondays existed because of a time, not the reverse.

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Better band isn't always opinion, first of all. In this case it is.

Secondly Bardock, the type of music that Whirly refers to is only novelty. It was only good BECAUSE he was there for it. Grunge has passed, but it's still excellent today. The Happy Mondays existed because of a time, not the reverse.

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Well yes, if you compare technique and such there is of course better and such....

I think i understand what you mean, the reason for liking that band is not because they are overly great but because they are the spirit of that time?

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Well it must be, they're shit for any other reason.

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Well it must be, they're shit for any other reason.

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Well then again there are people who like 50 Cent, Britney Spears and Tool...so can't really say all people have good taste.

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I'm not saying Whirly has bad taste, I don't know what he likes or doesn't like.

Just that The Happy Mondays are shit.

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I'm not saying Whirly has bad taste, I don't know what he likes or doesn't like.

Just that The Happy Mondays are shit.

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Oh come on...you could at least give me some shit for placing Tool to that enumeration.

Anyways. What kind of music did the Happy Mondays make?

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Why would I now give you shit after admitting you were doing it to get my attention? I spotted it anyway smile

. Your German villainy doesn't work with me.

Bad music...to answer your question.

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Oh woe is me......if we gerans can't be villains what else is there....

I should maybe specify, I was asking what genre they are.

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the reason for liking that band is not because they are overly great but because they are the spirit of that time?

We English have a word for that: zeitgeist.

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Better band isn't always opinion, first of all. In this case it is.

Secondly Bardock, the type of music that Whirly refers to is only novelty. It was only good BECAUSE he was there for it. Grunge has passed, but it's still excellent today. The Happy Mondays existed because of a time, not the reverse.

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Shaun Ryder is a great influence on Damon and sings on Dare - he is very much still here. Ian Brown has continued success, the spin of bands from the Manchester sound are still huge.

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Influence on Damon as he's an influence on you. That means nothing. He was some faded nobody living in Manchester until they got him on DARE. Off the back of that he's trying to do a reunion which is failing miserably.

Ian Brown is shit now. He was good though.

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We English have a word for that: zeitgeist.

Oh damn, I wish we had a word like that, too.

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Influence on Damon as he's an influence on you. That means nothing. He was some faded nobody living in Manchester until they got him on DARE. Off the back of that he's trying to do a reunion which is failing miserably.

Ian Brown is shit now. He was good though.

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Uh No - I saw the Reunion on Good Friday supported by the Farm, at Brixton Academy, it was a sellout and tickets were going outside for 3 times the price. It was called 24 hour party people and sold out everywhere it played putting on a number of extra nights. smile

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