Ugh, I hated that scene in Ultimate War. I mean seriously, it makes no sense, Iceman defeating all of S.H.E.I.L.D?!? Of course there were a ton of things wrong with that series so yeah.
All of S.H.E.I.L.D?!?! I mean there is no way that Iceman is powerful enougth to pretty much freeze all of New York, at least not Ultimate Iceman. 616 Iceman might have been able to do it Pre-Decimation
But like I said before the mini series was messed up anyway.
why the ultimate x-men are still teenagers and are devolping their powers maybe he if just geting more powerfull. he did freeze the sentanl back in issiue one. and that didn't even seem like he was using that much effort.
good thing no one asked Serouisly speaking, Torchs powers and Icemans Powers are different. Torch generates heat, and can bring it up to nova levels. Iceman doesnt generate cold, and doesnt absorb heat. Therefore, from various examples, we know that he literally stops molecular motion. He even froze the freakin Stranger. Iceman can just flash freeze the Torches molecules (which include his flames) Iceman is MUCH more versitile and powerful with his powers, while Torch has the destructive edge.
To his defense, X also said that he was the third most powerful X-man and in going with X-men fashion they always get more powerful with training and using their powers more proficiently. Besides the story was his coming back as a hero, which every good hero needs to look good for....
Wow...I stopped reading the mutant stuff 3 or 4 years ago for various reasons. I had no idea...
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he didnt just "appear". He was always omega and has continously evolved his powers from the snow effects to ice, to fully ice. If I were to say when he was portrayed most powerful it would have to be in X-men Forever which I already posted all his feats for.
just a little something, this is a discusion I had with TheKahn:
Ok so I have a question about a scan that I want your opinion on. Let us start by saying that Jean Grey is a accomplished Telepath, yes? That would mean that she has an extra perceptionary sense at her disposal, yes? Then why did she not no if in fact Iceman was around when he was in I dont need a body mode?
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Mar 21st, 2006 12:22 PM
Serouisly speaking, Torchs powers and Icemans Powers are different. Torch generates heat, and can bring it up to nova levels. Iceman doesnt generate cold, and doesnt absorb heat. Therefore, from various examples, we know that he literally stops molecular motion. He even froze the freakin Stranger. Iceman can just flash freeze the Torches molecules (which include his flames) Iceman is MUCH more versitile and powerful with his powers, while Torch has the destructive edge.
