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Darth Maul vs Count Dooku
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Filoni's said Kenobi three-shotting Maul was because he thought every time Maul matched Kenobi's blade it suggests parity, but he didn't think there was any.

Rebels Kenobi is genuinely far beyond Maul (or Ahsoka).

Logically speaking, why would Rebels Maul be a shadow of his former self?

Isn't his potential in the force in SW just second to only the Skywalkers themselves? Sidious obviously would have chosen an apprentice with a greater potential than him.

As the user rockydonovang has said, he was consistently active and a thorn in the Empire's side, to the extent that they would call him the "Shadow". He has also been seeking Sith artifacts and resources of knowledge and has easily demonstrated greater knowledge of the force on Dathomir in demonstrating Nightsister rituals. He is powerful enough to utterly fodderize the Inquisitors, and they have raised a mountain sized temple from the ground.

Whereas Ben Kenobi did nothing but sit on his ass all day long in the Tatooine desert. His potential is pretty much fodder level, his defining traits his resilience and endurance and his over-the-top dedication putting him above other "normal" Jedi, because of which he is even able to stand up to threats that should batter him to oblivion. How on earth did he grow?

And how did Maul even decline? Combatively, he was much more active.

I get that he emotionally declined after SoD, but it shouldn't make such a difference at all.

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You've debated this endlessly with Darth Thor, I don't think anyone will ever change your opinion on it, mostly because if you did change your opinion then you'd have to realize how retarded you've been for the past year of your existence.

This is rich coming from you bud, someone who can never admit he's wrong.

Instead, you resort to backtracking, acting like you don't care, throwing a tantrum, or resorting to gif's and links.

Keep it up kiddo. thumb up

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Whereas Ben Kenobi did nothing but sit on his ass all day long in the Tatooine desert. His potential is pretty much fodder level, his defining traits his resilience and endurance and his over-the-top dedication putting him above other "normal" Jedi, because of which he is even able to stand up to threats that should batter him to oblivion. How on earth did he grow?


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What puts Kenobi's potential anything above fodder level? He basically relies on PIS to even stay alive.

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What puts Kenobi's potential anything above fodder level? He basically relies on PIS to even stay alive.


    * Being the youngest member of the council prior to Anakin?


    * Contending with and even getting the better off a superior version of one of the most skilled in history?


    * Being noted by Windu as one of the most powerful member of the order in the order's prime, pre-prime?


    * Being one of the best jedi of his day as a Padawan?

How is Kenobi not a prodigy? erm

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What puts Kenobi's potential anything above fodder level? He basically relies on PIS to even stay alive.

Well yeah he was an absolute PIS machine, but he still was a prodigy...

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To pull a page from Ant's book...

(Argument's on the previous page)

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Even Yoda ponders his own ability to defeat Darth Maul. thumb up

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Dooku stomps 10/10.


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Dooku stomps 10/10.

Yup, Like he stomped pre-prime Savage. Oh wait...

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And like he stomped Vos. Oh wait...

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The worst part is he actually was stomping them until circumstances happened.


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The worst part is he actually was stomping them until Christie Golden happened.


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Yup, Like he stomped pre-prime Savage. Oh wait...
.......he dropped Savage like four times in that fight.......while winning a blade lock agaimst Ventress....,.


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.......he dropped Savage like four times in that fight.......while winning a blade lock agaimst Ventress....,.

Wow winning in a bladelock against Ventress?! She uses Jar'Kai and Makashi, very weak.

He had to stave off Savage with lightning, a power Dooku deliberately kept from him. In Sabers only, Opress kinda dominated... then he got angry and ragdolled both Dooku and Ventress.

That was all before he sent Anakin and Obi-Wan flying toward a wall and blasted them to the ground with a repulse.

This after one training session with Dooku...

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Wow winning in a bladelock against Ventress?! She uses Jar'Kai and Makashi, very weak.

He had to stave off Savage with lightning, a power Dooku deliberately kept from him. In Sabers only, Opress kinda dominated... then he got angry and ragdolled both Dooku and Ventress.

That was all before he sent Anakin and Obi-Wan flying toward a wall and blasted them to the ground with a repulse.

This after one training session with Dooku...
doesn't change how savage (and maul both) didn't have a counter to force lightning.

Funny, I recall Dooku casually sidestepping around Savage's attacks while also smacking around Ventress. But, I suppose from a certain light, that one hit that sent Dooku flying (followed by Dooku dancing around him again) could be seen as Savage dominating.

By that point in time, he was fully force raging out. Show me Savage raging out when he lost to Maul.

Not even sure why we're talking about this, savage relies on his brute strength (in conjunction with his size and a small amount of skill) to beat his opponents. As shown by Dooku and Maul, that sort of fighting style is only good againsy weaker opponents.

Savage is undeniably powerful in the force and in physical strength, but Maul is a different monster. Maul uses agility, and skill rather than strength and size. As shown multiple times by Kenobi, Ventress, Anakin and yoda, it takes more than what Maul has to beat Dooku.


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Savage wasn't raging when he threw Dooku through the air: that was the beginning of the fight, and Ventress was on the other side of the room.

https://youtu.be/7s3x8ox2ToE?t=1m15s


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