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TethAdamTheRock
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Aye.

The one thing I disliked about Colossus more than anything was his actual skin. I get that they didn't have the budget of a bigger movie, but I prefer more of a sheen to his skin. It should look less matte/dull. Not the liquid metal look from DOFP, but still.
They got it somewhat right, its just the matte look

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Comic Colossus has a chromish touch to his skin though
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Terrax wouldn't last that long, even if you put him against Toad laughing out loud


Excellent point.

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That's what I meant, TATHR, he needs that sheen. Like he had in the other movies or Steel has in DC Legends.


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It's quite quantifiable, if we take the average weight of a skyscrapper, which is around 250,000 tons.
That sounds like a descent estimate. As for how long he held it it's hard to say but I'm assuming he held is for a little while.

Nice feat, definately one of his best.


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I just noticed something that may shed some light on how long Colossus held that building up, Kitty told Nightcrawler to teleport any stragglers out of the building. We don't actually see how many he teleported out of the skyscraper but it's quite possible that Colossus held the building for a descent amount of time for that to happen being he had to check the entire building.


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Only wish it was more quantifiable.


Not to downplay the feat, but didn't Nimrod calculate Pete is at 500+ tons recently?


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I just noticed something that may shed some light on how long Colossus held that building up, Kitty told Nightcrawler to teleport any stragglers out of the building. We don't actually see how many he teleported out of the skyscraper but it's quite possible that Colossus held the building for a descent amount of time for that to happen being he had to check the entire building.


Hmm, that's a good point. Kurt gets tired porting more than two or three at a time iirc, so it must have taken at least a few minutes.

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Not to downplay the feat, but didn't Nimrod calculate Pete is at 500+ tons recently?


Did he? I must have missed that.


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Okay, so it was a little longer than I though. The scan was originally on page 86 I think, back in 2010. Judging by the comments Nimrod had Colossus at 1.5 tons for every pound. At 500 lbs, he'd be at 750 tons.

I'm not sure what to think of it being capped around that area. Pr, you're a big fan of him, is that what you think Colossus should be at?


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He actually weighs more than 500lbs. He weighs closer to a ton, if not an actual ton.

He's been dropped as a human bomb before, he's thrown off the calibration of the X-Jet because he was armored up and they didn't account for that.

He's actually been stated on panel to weigh a ton.

And there's simply no way the densest metal(Osmium) is comprising an entire 7+ foot tall man and he's only 500lbs.

So at the least Nimrod would have him at around 3,000 tons.

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In Excalibur Colossus was stated to weigh one ton.

Also in that Nimrod scene it took 4 Nimrods(maybe more) to restrain Colossus. Nimrod is Class 100.


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Ah, Ok. I took a quick look at Marvel.com and it has him at 500 lbs armored, but I thought it was a little dated. Plus Marvel doesn't update their site as they should.


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IIRC Excalibur said he was "over a ton", and yeah, imo the 500lbs thing is pushing it, even with his insides being this wonderfully ambiguous metal.


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On-panel statements had Wolverine's adamantium heavier than the info from handbooks claimed it to be, too.

Metal is metal, not supposed to be light in most cases. Cyke even told Piotr to revert back into human form when on Blackbird.


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Exactly. And his metal is essentially Osmium, which has a far heavier density than most metals, meaning it has a far greater weight in high concentrations as well. Like entirely comprising a 7'5 person/

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On-panel statements had Wolverine's adamantium heavier than the info from handbooks claimed it to be, too.

Metal is metal, not supposed to be light in most cases. Cyke even told Piotr to revert back into human form when on Blackbird.


Yup.

Though if it's not 500lbs, what's the consenus? A ton? Two?


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Yup.

Though if it's not 500lbs, what's the consenus? A ton? Two?


On-panel statements by Cyclops and a few others as well as info boxes usually put him around 1 Ton in weight.

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On-panel statements by Cyclops and a few others as well as info boxes usually put him around 1 Ton in weight.


I'd be fine with anything between 1 and 2, myself.


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Yeah that sounds about right. And it could easily be said that any muscle and mass he gains in human form increases a lot once transformed.

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Makes Wolverine throwing him more impressive cool


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Wolverine threw him? I always knew that little guy was stronger than he looked.

And he has thrown down with Roughouse repeatedly in the past so it's not too surprising.

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He did:

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Another time, he did so under moon's gravity when X-Men were fighting Shi'ar (Phoenix saga), but Piotr was human then.

Yet another instance happened during the time when Colossus was thought to be dead because of the Legacy virus... one of those weird death dream/afterlife scenarios that haunt Logan. Wolverine and Colossus fighting against Logan's dead villains (Shingen, Geist, Cyber and more), ending with Logan picking Colossus up and throwing him at them. I'd totally count it, as it was totally awesome, but it's canoncity/msg boards validity may be questioned in more way than one, of course.


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