Val is the KING of PIS. He gets thrown around by mid-top tiers and can still hang in a fight. Danny isn't that durable or as skilled as Val. Nor as fast.
The only chance is 3boot Val, but he'd likely take the majority as well.
Close, but no cigar. PC has much better feats than regular Danny. Zero Hour came close to PC, but not as formidable. 3boot has some good feats under his belt, but not many feats.
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not a chance because that is not, nor will it ever, be the way danny is written. hulk has next to ZERO speed feats. danny could get in some shots--he'd never really threaten hulk but he could cause hulk grief. and thor? in straight h2h, no hammer or powers, danny could cause him some grief perhaps for a short time. again, he could never threaten thor though. all he's got is blunt force. just how hard do you think danny can punch?? harder than juggernaut? hulk? cuz they hit thor SEVERAL times but didn't ko him. does he hit harder than thor's hammer? cuz hulk's taken several hammer blows. so, how hard DO you think he punches?
regardless, clark is a WHOLE different animal in straight h2h. so much faster than danny it's laughable. this is a forum match we're talking here. kal's speed means danny doesn't touch him. saying danny can 'hang' with superman is almost unbelieveable....
1 inconsistent showing that he knows all the Martial Arts in the galaxy? So him doing Klenarian Muscle Locks and Thanarian Muscle Flex's, etc etc, dont show that he knows martial arts from other worlds? This scan says it best:
@Blair Wind: I guess I was wrong about the death of Karate Kid point. You just proved the Princess Projectra point though. She only won because he was OFF-GUARD.
Enraged Banner could possibly knock out Supes even though he lacks speed. Thor's been wrecked by Steve and Logan so it's stupid to assume that Danny couldn't hurt him either as he's far more powerful. Danny punches hard enough to fell monsters hundreds of feet tall and I don't THINK that, it's fact...
And yet, Kal has stalemated far slower fighters like; Val, Diana, and Bruce among others multiple times
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"wrecked" by steve and logan? where exactly was this? your definition of "wrecked" is a little skewed methinks....
you keep mentioning that. i'd love scans if you got them, not that it really matters. clark takes nukes, but you think without some of comics worst PIS he has a chance to even HARM kal? so you think danny hits harder than hulk or thor's hammer or jugg's? because, again, none of them have ko'd each other and they've beat hell out of each other often enough. landing a blow is one thing. 'hanging with someone' and actually posing any form of threat is something entirely different. danny couldn't actually pose a threat to hulk, thor or kal least of all. he could dance around thor or hulk for a while and get in some hits, but that's not 'hanging with them'. he's nowhere NEAR a threat to any one of them.
and? this is a forum. in a forum, bats never touches kal in a million years. diana is as fast as the god mercury. i'd say yeah, she has a chance to hit him.
and of course val--super-karate can do it all!
if you honestly think fist can threaten hulk or thor, and is actually capable of hanging in a h2h battle with superman this discussion is so far from pointless it can't see the light from pointless for a billion years.
but, you have taken a stance i thought i'd never see in my life, so for that entertaining opinion, i thank you.
Cap'n America owned Thor in some Avengers issue; I can't recall when Logan did it but Wolvie blitzed the thunder god. By "wrecked" - I mean stomped, ergo, merked, ergo, rocked, ergo, owned, ergo, defeated. An example would be: Val wrecked Mon, Jo, and Kara.
...Kal's been knocked out by building busters, dude
Bruce is a peak human much like Val so if the latter can tag Kal; I don't see why Bruce can't. Diana is actually very slow - maybe even slower than Thor so her tagging Kal is inconsistency, going by your "forum" logic. Danny Rand was Marvel's answer to Val Armorr. He was created as a rival for some future crossover or some shit like that. I'll reiterate; if Val can hang with Kal in h2h combat, I don't see why his "equal" from Marvel can't do the same.
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so..... where?
cool. and cap caught danny fist and stomped a mudhole in him, and wolvie cleaned danny's clock and he was forced to a double countout with BP. see, i can lowball too.
i KNOW you're clowning, but i'll play along--diana is close to kal's speed. she's frickin tagged ZOOM! it is reasonable to assume she can hit clark without PIS.
are you trying to tell me you think it is reasonable to assume batman could hit superman if superman didn't want him to? is that what you're saying?
you avoided a lot of my other post, but tell me you're NOT saying that, please. that could actually be the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard in the forum. hell, i believe people have been banned for less......
again, without the most ludicrous amounts of PIS in comics history, fist never--EVER touches kal, and does ZERO damage if he is allowed to.
Val has done this in various Legion comics featuring Kara during his "training sessions".
Steve and Logan are the same people who stomped out Thor so Danny losing to them isn't really that much of a low-feat. I dunno who you're referring to by "BP". It takes significantly less than Danny or Val to harm Kal is what my main point was.
Diana tagging Zoom is the greatest instance of PIS\CIS I've ever seen in my life; even Wally who's loads faster than Kal who's loads faster than Diana can't defeat the guy.
Bruce is a peak human just like Val, Danny, Logan, and Steve are. So yeah, I guess.
I was using your own logic to arrive at that conclusion.
Yet Danny and Val are peers. Val's a peer to people like Jo, Mon, and Kara.
Just wanted to say that technically a speedforce entity is untouchable by anything as in theory they can outrun anything as it is cited to be the fastest anything in the universe can go so I don't see why if a Flash were to make the jump to speedforce it is possible for anything to tag them ever.
Also IMO Current Danny after picking up more chi skills and the removal of the limitations on his chi draw should take this with an IF spam.
Anyone think it's weird that we ignore the fact that PC Superman's wildly inconstant fluctuating power levels that was the reason for the Crisis in the first place, and pretend that PC Superman was operating at solar system sneezing levels when Val fought with him?
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