I don't know exactly because it would be impossible to calculate logically due to iron mans suit being a fictitious, and the exact amount of force used by captain America being unestablished and unable to be established. What I do know is that logically it would take more force to damage an object with one that is less durable than vice versa.. Would you not agree?
You're ignoring other factors, namely the durability of the wall & ground, plus the amount of damage done to each.
Really, your argument is basically I don't want to admit that Cap has a noticeable edge in strength, so I'm just doing to lowball/ignore and call PIS on all feats that hurt my argument.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
I did none of those things just now.I used common sense to conclude that it would take more force for an object to damage a more durable object than vice versa
So, you aren't saying that the Batman feat is more impressive?
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
I couldn't say which definitely. I just think iron mans suit contributed more to the damage to the asphalt than the Talon's body did to the stone wall. How could it not?
Which means that you think the feats are fairly close, right?
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Not necessarily. Just the fact that it was iron man that he did that too and not cannon fodder like batman's feat seems to suggest that the feat the is superior.Knocking him into the ground like that is very impressive, but logically even a person of caps strength level would be able to knock around someone of IMs weight considering his other strength feats imo. But this is comics, and a street leveler doing that to IM seems to suggest a feat of great magnitude.
It was rather nice of Golgo13 to provide proof that Batman falls well short of Cap's durability.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
You should catch up on the new series Leo. Its pretty good and Captain America's endurance in it is legit ridiculous. Everything else could be equal but Steve would win based on stamina alone imho.
Also, lol at the Rex Tyler and Jay Garrick tombstones in the last panel of the first scan. Neat nod.
Prometheus had the combined martial arts skills of 30 of DC's greatest martial artist including Batman's own skills. In addition, he was prepared for the sole purpose to defeat the JLA especially Batman using advanced technology. In their 2nd fight, Batman dominated Prometheus using just raw skill despite Prometheus using his tech and weaponry.
Also, it should be mentioned that Captain America actually was on the losing end against Taskmaster the first time they fought despite having Iron Man's help. Looking at their first battle, Taskmaster not only got the upper hand on Steve but also Tony at the same time plus Taskmaster still managed to escape capture from the Avengers on top of that. That's actually worse than Batman's loss against Prometheus since it happened off panel and Batman didn't have powerful backup like Steve did.
Batman KOed Deathstroke in their last (real) battle with his own rifle after getting the upper hand on him. Matter of fact, just solo Batman is the only street level fighter to that's managed to KO Slade in a melee battle to my knowledge. Whereas, Daredevil has KOed Steve by tossing him against the wall while fighting in darkness.
Now with that said, HTH Steve wins this 6/10 times due to being physical superior and being just a step or two below Bruce in skill. But it takes a long time to decide a winner each and every time IMO. Just my 2 cents peace
Last edited by Phantom Ghost on Sep 12th, 2013 at 11:11 AM
I'm not referring to how Batman took Prometheus out in the end but rather just their melee combat battle all the way up until Prometheus shot Batman at point blank range.
If you notice, Batman doesn't resort to reprogramming Prometheus armor until after he's shot by Prometheus even though he could've ended their battle quickly anytime he wanted.