What ever if batman want's to disappear infront of captain america he will? I provided a pic of batman disappearing infront of an office. And reappearing behind the dude. And this was confirmed by braz long bio on what batman has learned. It has been done but you guys don't want him to do it. Because you want to find something to complaining about.
Doesn't show very well? Against who? Lady Shiva and Richard Dragon? Beating Shiva's top 7 fighters without rest, Ra's Al Ghul, Cain, Nightwing, Priest... And he still DOES hold his own with Shiva, Richard Dragon, Batgirl, and Deathstroke. Name me one character from Marvel who has shown Shiva's level of martial arts prowess that Cap has been able to hold a candle to, and I'll give you your point.
Kicking down trees shows his striking power. His mastery over martial arts allows him to utilize his strength, so that he punches even arguably HARDER than Cap does. Bruce Lee could bench MAYBE 220. Yet he knocks a guy on his ass from an inch away, due to his technique. Skill accounts for a LOT more than you give it credit for. Strikes like that take an extreme amount of focus and training to pull off, it IS a testament to the amount Batman works at his fighting. (as you've also stated that Cap trains harder than Batman)
Cap is very good in a few styles. Skillwise, he's not extremely impressive, when you get to even batman levels, much less Shang Chi and Lady Shiva. Tactically, he's amazing. Physically, he's better than pretty much any other human, and THAT is what gets him wins.
On the other side of the coin, Batman has a VERY small physical disadvantage. He has worked for 4 days on end before, so his stamina really won't give out immediately, as pretty much all of you are suggesting. His body armor will do a great deal in absorbing blows. I've yet to see Cap's suit really prove itself in a semi realistic setting. Taking shots from Thor is in the same category as Batman getting whacked by Superman or slammed into the ground by Wonderwoman. Durability is basically equal, possibly a slight edge to Batman.
Now, Batman's advantage in skill is pretty large. His training is much more extensive, and he probably DOES have more h2h feats than Cap does, as Cap does not get to use his shield in this fight.
Oh, and as to Batman's comment... The dude's a genius. Supergenius, even. I really don't care what circumstances YOU would use the word "conceivably" in, Batman just talks like that. Its connotation is that of uncertainty. I REALLY don't know why I'd even argue about it, when you're just grasping at straws anyway.
Wheeee, long post.
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Any of Marvel's really high end MA's would... Mantis and Gamora are both to the point where they hang around on the cosmic level. Cap may be the best on Earth, but DC Earth would beat the living hell out of Marvel Earth when it comes to martial artists.
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The one voted on by fans? You will notice even in that, one of them is breathing hard. (It's not Cap)
Sorry. It didn't work. I can't see anything.
That pic din't show up either man. "Whatever"? What a good way to not answer the question. Braz's long bio? You mean the one with Batman growing in people's minds? Debatable. But I am sure that Cap would beat the living hell out of Bats. I think Bats is too.
Yep I am pretty sure the fans voted on what they should say to right?
Well Braz long bio says that batman can grow in people's mind, and now you have prove of batman doing it. Deal with it or make your own batman who will be everything YOU want him or her or it to be.
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That's not the voted on one dude. Look @ you trying to be sarcastic! Marvel Vs DC, the one I thought we were talking about was voted on. Where does this one say they were fighting for hours? I've no doubts that Bats can fight for hours. I know that he can't outlast a man who has superhuman stamina though. I think I've got that book your pic is from back @ home. Isn't there a part where Batman says that Cap has the edge in speed?
What proof are you talking about? I've seen no proof. You alright man?
No it wouldnt ,and you dont read Captain America at all do you???or comics for that part, you just Read Handbooks, and Wikipedia and MArvel Directory and then ACT like you know what your talking about when in reality, you dont shit about it.
Stop Reading the stats and read some comics, then come back and say something, biotch
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Ditto. Step your game up or stop posting MM. Why post when you don't know what you're talking about. Cap has better stamina than any human. It's good to see that you are @ least trying to learn a bit now instead of just running your mouth. Try harder.
Actually I have a full run of Catain America the one that started at 100 and his Tales of Suspense appearnces.
I have Avengers #4 and about a 100 of the Avengers comics plus aall the New Avengers ones and all his current series.
I have about 4000 comics in total and 50 trades so yeah I'd say I do read comics.
Why wouldn't you trust something made by a Marvel afilliet and Marvel themselves, plus the Wikipedia profile was done by his fans who I'm sure know a great deal about him.
you know what this post shows me? that you know absolutley nothing about real fighting,
Bruce Lees one in punch was a HOAX just like Bruce Lee was a HOAX, it AINT REAL, get it through your skull.
It doesnt matter how many s tyles you know, someone who knows kung-fu,eagle-claw,tiger-claw,Tae-kwon Do,gung -fu,drunken fist,and Karate STILL ,loses to a SLIGHTLY above average wrestler, 10/10 times, so how about you stop reading about fights and watching movies, and go get in some, and watch REAL fights, and then holla at me.
Bats takes shots from supes and wonder-woman, and then gets his face kicked in by Lady Shiva and DS sounds like some PIS to me..........why?? Because it is!, Bats is FAR away from caps level of staminam, because its not humanly possible to fight as long as cap can, take a Bio-physics class.they will tell you about fatiguing toxins that make you exhausted, and then you know that no matter how good of shape hes in, he CANT equal captains.
You are saying that someone who is not as old as cap, hasnt seen as many battles as cap and HAS to have an alter-ego, has more combat experience, thats impossible, batman leads 2 lives, cap only leads one.
And you my friend are grasping at straws, you are taking the connotation of the word "conceive" that best suits your arguments.Im taking the one that best suits mine.
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I've always thought Tim needed his "memory erased". Never liked him. They should "erase Jubilee's memory" too.
Jan 24th, 2006 11:34 PM
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Beating Shiva's top 7 fighters without rest, Ra's Al Ghul, Cain, Nightwing, Priest... And he still DOES hold his own with Shiva, Richard Dragon, Batgirl, and Deathstroke. Name me one character from Marvel who has shown Shiva's level of martial arts prowess that Cap has been able to hold a candle to, and I'll give you your point. 
