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Silverspider/Dizzles Team Tournament: Round 2, Fight 2- Grey Fox vs. Khellendros
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Khellendros
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Originally posted by grey fox
As soon as they get on the field the team disperses , using the 'caves darkness' as you call it to their advantage .

Well, they can disperse, but Jakita will still be able to hear them, if not see them. Frostbite will be able to track them because they're greater sources of heat than anything else in the room, and Light can still use infrared light to see you. And any one of them can tell Grail where to fire off a chi blast.

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Originally posted by grey fox
Synch synches with frostbite he always has an understanding of how to use the powers he synches with and therefore undoes everything that frost bite has been trying to do.

First, Synch has to be fairly close to Synch with someone, so running off into the cave isn't gonna work. Second, gaining knowledge of how to use copied powers was voted illegal at the beginning of this tourney. Finally, Frostbite's powers don't look like that. He cant stop something from getting cold, and he doesn't have the kind of finite control over stored heat to let him slowly warm something back up. Trying to heat up a bullet with Frostbite's powers is just going to cause it to explode on the spot.

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Originally posted by grey fox
Light can't do a full light drain on the entire cave as that would have negative effects on your team (deducting visibility even further )
Not only taking into consideration that my team may not be their.

He doesn't really need to, as he has a walking source of endless light in the form of Grail, who can make himself brighter as he channels more chi.

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Originally posted by grey fox
Ds (Hiding in one of the many winding tunnels and caves that all link to the main cave) let's loose with a bullet and grenade barrage , two frag grenades and 10-20 bullets later and frostbyte is out . Your team having nether the reaction time or pre-cog to block those attacks.

Actually, Grail and Jakita do have the necessary reaction time, but it's not necessary, as you still can't use ammo or grenades.

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Originally posted by grey fox
Cap's shield suddenly impacts with the back of grail's head , ether A knocking him out or B killing him outright (due to decapitation) . What were your team doing at that point ? trying to free themselves from their ice encased legs . A second or two is all it takes.

Read my prep again. Grail came into this with his shield, which has taken hits from Class 100 guys before. And ice won't do much more than annoy my team, since Grail and Jakita are strong enough to shatter it with ease and Light and Frostbite can simply melt it.

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Originally posted by grey fox
A flashbang goes off , again no light draining because the flash takes a second possibly two , again no where near the reaction time a normal human has.

laughing out loud You say that like my team is composed of NORMAL humans. Anyways, Flashbangs are just as useless as any other explosive in this fight.

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Originally posted by grey fox
Jakita is suddenly rushed by dragonman , her lower body in encased full in ice now , synch can let off any heat in a similar manner to what khell described earlier. Now dragonman can ether beat her upper body to death or eat her . Ether way she's down .

Jakita may not be able to beat DM instantly, but she's quick enough to keep him from touching her, and strong enough that he will definitely feel a few punches. And Synch has a distance limit, meaning if he's close enough to use Frostbite's power, he's close enough to get blasted by Grail.

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Originally posted by grey fox
Light's vision finally returns and i'm guessing he's pretty damn panicked , his team is dead/unconscious(ether way their considered knocked out) his powers near useless ( he ether makes everything pitch black for himself or can try to drain everything in his surrounding area
but since he's frozen to the spot that's really not going to help)

laughing out loud The idea that you can actually blind a guy named DOCTOR LIHT is just laughable. No reason to panic, since your entire strategy has been invalidated.

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I'm not particularly bothered if you crush my arguments , as i earlier stated i knew i was going to lose and am trying my best to at least have a slight comeback. Also you didn't comment on my music....how distasteful.....

But back to a few points , super speed doesn't equal-ate into reaction time , look at monolith in the other match he can go pretty damn fast but his reaction time stinks.

Supes can go around the world a few hundred times in five minutes but can he tag the flash ......nope.........

I just realised how tasty cold pizza can be ...bully for me big grin


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Originally posted by Khellendros
Finally, Frostbite's powers don't look like that. He cant stop something from getting cold, and he doesn't have the kind of finite control over stored heat to let him slowly warm something back up. Trying to heat up a bullet with Frostbite's powers is just going to cause it to explode on the spot.


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And ice won't do much more than annoy my team, since Grail and Jakita are strong enough to shatter it with ease and Light and Frostbite can simply melt it.



is it just me or does something not add up here? confused


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is it just me or does something not add up here? confused

Why not? Blasting the big ice sheathe around one's legs is a lot less exact than heating up a bullet. Besides, he doesn't have to worry about going overboard and burning himself because he can simply reabsorb the excess heat.

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So he channels heat and then freezes things? or he channels heat which causes things to freeze and he has heat blasts from the heat he took??


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So he channels heat and then freezes things? or he channels heat which causes things to freeze and he has heat blasts from the heat he took??

He absorbs heat, either for the purpose of forming ice, or just to store heat to bolster his own physical stats or to fire as concentrated blasts. He also has some control over the ice he forms, being able to shape it and make it much stronger than normal ice as well as firing the ice as destructive projectiles.

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is it just me or does something not add up here? confused


Hey I'm still trying to work out how light can suddenly suck all the light from something which flares for a second . Or how he can both keep his shield up and do a multitude of other stuff......


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Hey I'm still trying to work out how light can suddenly suck all the light from something which flares for a second . Or how he can both keep his shield up and do a multitude of other stuff......

What, are you talking about the flashbang? He doesn't even need to, since it won't be going off in the first place. And tons of other characters can do more than one thing with their power. Telekinetics can shield themselves and move things, Invisible Woman can make multiple constructs, Magneto can shield himself and still manipulate metal.

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actually khell, synch can synch with anyone that is within a few miles of him.

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Few things...

1. Chuck Norris most certainly owns Mr. T and Vin Deisel.

2. You BOTH made fun of Spider-Man on page 1 ("If Spidey can learn to throw it, anyone can"). Minus points...luckily for you both, it negates each other.

3. Much of this fight revolves around Dr. Light. I don't believe he can simply suck ambient energy out of electronics...hell, Cyborg beat him recently. But I have seen him suck light out of an area, thus creating darkness....so that's a viable tactic. Also, Synch's bio mentions an ambient light aura whenever he's using his powers...not sure what would happen to him if that light got stolen away, but he might be screwed.

4. Cap's great, but a touch out of his league. You would have been better off with plenty of others. DS I consider to be more dangerous...and I think he hasn't been used enough. Dragon's Man's decent muscle, but little else. He's a dumb turd that would be mostly lost in this fight.

I think too much of a deal is being made about Dr. Light, and he's certainly not as good as Khell would have us believe. But that doesn't change the fact that Khell's team is simply better.

My (judges) vote goes to Khell.

And no, this has nothing to do with KMC Authority...in the future I'd ask to not be a judge for any JLA and/or Authority matches...but I'm removing any bias I might have before I vote.


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Originally posted by stormfront13
actually khell, synch can synch with anyone that is within a few miles of him.

Really. Okay, what's fine. Gaining the knowledge of how to use the powers copied was voted as being illegal, and Frostbite had an incredibly tough time learning to control his powers. The first half of his appearances was spent wearing a regulator belt that would keep him from constantly absorbing heat from his surroundings, to the point that he would melt/burn everything around him.

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Really. Okay, what's fine. Gaining the knowledge of how to use the powers copied was voted as being illegal, and Frostbite had an incredibly tough time learning to control his powers. The first half of his appearances was spent wearing a regulator belt that would keep him from constantly absorbing heat from his surroundings, to the point that he would melt/burn everything around him.


yeah, your right ther though, though i don't think he has a complete understanding over the powers he copies, just a basic idea. idk if it will make much of a difference though

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yeah, your right ther though, though i don't think he has a complete understanding over the powers he copies, just a basic idea. idk if it will make much of a difference though

Doesn't matter what he gets in character, in this tourney, he gets no knowledge, so he is screwed.

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Chi boy (aka Grail) certainly does go down though i can guarantee that.


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Chi boy (aka Grail) certainly does go down though i can guarantee that.

laughing out loud What, from Frostbite? Naah. He's the one memeber of his team who can survive completely unaided in space with no problems. A little ice isn't going to cause trouble.

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I was talking about the sheild , it's inorganic , indestructable , and thrown with class five strengh behind it . I see ether decapitation or a concussion......


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The shield has stood up to Class 100 hits. The shield won't even phase him.

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I'm voting for Khellendros. Good arguments on both sides, but Khell has the advantage in power and abilities, I think, and presented his case well for that.


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Match closed. Khellendros wins.


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Ahh well i tried big grin


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