no, no way i was just saying that the fact that eileen still has her powers is more evidence to support my case. i don't have my old issues with me so i can't prove it with scans and issue numbers yet, and there lies the problem.
yes, but iron-man would also have to come near me and actually see me to fire the genetic lock, in which case takes time. phantazia has the advantage here because she can instantly sense iron-man and immediately shut him down. she doesn't even need to be near him or see him, tony on the other hand does, which gives me a major advantage. also, with phantazia it doesn't come down to accuracy, she can just affect the em fields in his proximity to shut him down.
well rider actually stated that he could only paralyze one character at a time in his last match, and that horus had to keep concentrating on that character to keep them paralyzed. this leaves horus open to attack, and vulnerable. the minute he stops, the paralyzing affect if broken. in the battle strategy mimic is fighting horus, and mimic can turn invisible, which means that horus doesn't know where to look to paralyze mimic. also mimic has control over his own bio-electricity, so he could very well fight the paralysis.
No limitations - stare paralysis was determined to be a stun move, not a OHKM. And it would be limited to one opponent at a time, not on a wide field.
^^trying to paralyze my whole team when you yourself said it was limited to one person at a time. i believe ill was concerned about it taking my entire team.
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ill and newjok summed it up well. not a lot of evidence supporting many claims on EITHER side. that said, we need to look at the debaters and who did better job of at least trying to credit their arguments or discredit their opponents effort. and in that regard, i think sf did a better job of debating so he gets my vote.
my vote would have gone to sf even without king mungi helping his arguements. it was close but when i was reading all the back and forths, stormfront just had the better arguements.
Match closed. stormfront wins. Oh, and before I put up the next round, do you want to fight again this week sf? If not, we can do 1 match a week from here on in, but it'd be good to know now.
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If Iron Man doesn't have the specific genetic sequence of the guy he's firing at, it either wont work or he could even risk increasing the power level of the target (as he does to Norman Osborn later in that story)
so there's really no way it would have worked on Stormfront's guys...... but i managed to keep my mouth shut about that for an entire week
1. No you don't. Ult. IM is the same as regualr Iron Man unless proven otherwise - so he's the same as your Vindicator, who's a class 85. Horus is a class 75, Thialfi is a class 35. Exiles Mimic only has half of Colossus' strength, which would put him anywhere between class 35 to 50. Phantazia and AOA Aurora do not have superhuman strength as a power.
2. Your characters claims to greater speed - in the air only - are compromised by this tight location, as I've already said. Thialfi has the best speed on foot; Ray can match AOA Aurora in the air-speed category, and Horus can reach speeds approaching the cap too.
3. We're how many pages in, and we are still going on assumption that your characters have greater reaction time. I'm the only one who's shown actual bio stat, that Thialfi has Superhuman-level reflexes.
4. Whatever superior power you claim, my character (Ult. Iron Man)has a neutralizer weapon that leaves three of your four characters powerless and vunerable. It's like having a kryptonite cannon against Superman. And no one gets around Horus' stun move.
5. Ultimate Iron Man has sufficent armoury and shielding devices to slug it out with any of your characters, despite what you think.
6. Who my weak link? I don't see any street levelers here.
7. Experience is on my side; I have an Egyptian God - Horus - and an Asgardian Immortal - Thialfi. Thialfi's been around for a thousand years; Horus much longer than that. When I pointed this out to SF early, he responded they probably sat around for a long time, doing nothing.
8. ^ See above.
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prove that ult. iron-man is the same league as 616 iron-man. he proved no match stregth-wise for people that are in the same class as 616 iron-man.
mimic is the superior power, and scoobless posted scans that he needs a specific fild to take away powers, or else he powers them up. so that move wouldn't have worked for you.
thiafli is the weak link. he isn't strong, he isn't durable, the only thing he has going for him is speed, and over half my characters are faster than him.
they may be immortal, but you can't delegate what they've been doing with all their time, the only solid proof is comic appearances, in which case thiafli, horus, and iron-man don't have a lot of expierence.
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