Interesting the body heat of just a few guys is giving him trouble. Also notice that EVERY picture you have provided he has needed to direct his powers through his hands. Touching the sand, creating an ice ball with hand motion, directing his hand to the guys. Gravity takes control of him (and THREE gravity fields would basically make you immobile) You wouldnt be able to move your hand in my direction.
Crystal is ALL AROUND better than normal humans. Better speed, reactions, attacks, durability. Im willing to bet her attacks are faster (considering she is spontanously igniting oxygen) Also too much heat does you trouble. Too much of a good thing is....well bad
No, Im human torching his ass, giving him too much heat to handle so he explodes all his teamates. All the other things are follow up attacks (earthquake to totally disorient you) which leads to other attacks (like massive steam explosions and lava) which would totally mess with all your characters as well
Mach speeds?? gravity taking control of your mobility?? Ya I think I have the advantage with speed
Crystal is an Inhuman. Much better than a human durablility. Powerhouse gave his life support suit to DB Prime (which can survive in space and is made of unstable molecules). My powerhouses all have a healing factor (all the power pack kids have a healing factor, which means my healing factor is actually tripled). That healing factor with concentration can also heal others. My Wendigos dont care.
Also one of my strategies was too throw the crowd at you. Numbers are always on my side. I could adapt that and just take you and throw you myself. All your members end up thrown with a suffacating amount of drunk breath in a dog pile on top of you.
Yeah, well it's not so interesting when you note that I said that that was his FIRST APPEARANCE in the book, and maybe his THIRD appearance ever. He's gotten much better since then, see the next scan in which he no longer wears the big belt thing that keeps his powers in check.
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Drawing the heat out of Times Square without manifesting the energy through his hands. The whole hands thing is just the way artists depict him using his power most of the time. Kinda like how Ice Man is generally shown shooting ice from his hands. Doesn't mean he HAS to move his hands to freeze things, does it?
Durability doesn't matter in this case, cause she can still freeze to death. Show me one scan of her blatantly reacting at faster-than-human speeds. Too much heat gave Frostbite trouble back when he had to wear the belt. Now, when he approaches his limit he just purges the heat in one concentrated blast, leaving him free to absorb more.
NONE of which will happen. Look, at BEST you have time to have Crystal start a little bit of flame before the cold renders her fog-headed. The only thing that will do is give Frostbite something to throw at your wendigo.
In movement speeds, maybe. But my team and their strategy renders your superspeed useless.
Prove her durability will make ANY DIFFERENCE when I'm freezing her to death. I dare you.
Fantastic. Your point?
Awesome. Those vampires Grail is disintegrating in one of my scans? Yeah. They are the classic vamp type. They've survived being gutted, impaled (not through the heart though obviously) and chopped up. Only thinks that kill them are beheading, destroying their hearts... oh, and Grail's chi blasts.
Yeah, they're too busy having their blind asses kicked in by a girl.
What, are you serious with this? You're going to throw a a crowd of people at a speedster, a guy who can create massive ice domes at the drop of a hat, and two flyers and crush them with a dogpile? Right. The ONLY thing this tactic will accomplish is wasting the precious seconds your team has left to live. ...So, on second thought, GO RIGHT AHEAD. Toss those drunks and show me who's boss!
Nice pic, his bio still states that once he gets too much too quickly he will explode things AROUND him.....hmmmm seems the pic proves my point. The barbaque Im going to have you under will distract you greatly and burn your other members
Thats when he is absorbing under normal conditions. Having someone suddenly create a wall or surrounding area of flames isnt the same. I dont need to show a scan when its part of her natural biology and stated so on a bio.
a little bit of flame? Spontanously igniting all the oxygen in the air is not gonna create a "little" fire as you say. Its a nice distractionary tool, then I can suddenly "shift" the earth under you feet, and that takes no time at all. earthquake makes you too disoriented to do anything, plus the fact that I still have three grav fields up makes it a little tough for you to concentrate. The fact that you cant move will hinder you greatly. Too much of a good thing is a bad thing
Movement speeds and your speedsters are useless with the grav fields up. The fire I flame you with disorients your whole team. The earthquake and heat steam and lava will burn you away.
nice, your point? he still cant get to me, gravity is too busy throwin his ass around
right shes already been burned to death
nah I was serouis about hindering your mobility and then throwing YOU after the earthquake and lava (if anyones alive and not burnt to a crisp)
or throwing you and then an earthquake....doesnt matter either way my fire disorients the only guy that matters at the moment. It overwelms you. The missles made him glow so much he was a night light. The massive heat from the burning steam and lava and the sudden fire around you will prevent you from draining me. Too much of it around you will make you absorb it too quickly, and you wont have the time to make a concentrated burst.
Just randomly throwing you with you having no clue whats up or down and being banged up mighty hard is pretty cool.......I would throw you wicked hard
And Blair to my understanding the floor is coated in adamantium right? Other than disorientation your earthqake isnt going to be causing any damage. Most of the damage from earthquakes comes from debris, nothing adamantium is gonna come apart. here
no not the ring or the flooring. Dizzle said barriers (the fence around the ring) thats it. Also the disorientation and the split in the earth just work into my other attacks. All my attacks disorient him so much that he wont be able to concentrate at all. Fire consuming his side of the ring wont be good for him either. Too much of a good thing. The fact that he cant really move hinders him as well.
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the man said barriers.The ring itself will split, being thrown, held down and immobile plus being barbecued will severely hurt him as well. And sorry guys about the lack of posts by the two of us, I for one have been busy with school. Besides my other fights have been REALLY long. So ya......
The bio isn't exactly updated fanatically. When he gets close to his limits, he purges the heat. The only times he's lost control like that have been when he still needed his belt to give him greater control. He stopped using the belt about halfway into the series. And, I'm sorry but how does that last scan prove anything beneficial for you? The barbeque? You mean the little flicker of flame Crystal will be able to produce before she falls to the ground unconscious? Yeah, not too worried.
It's all the same to him. And you won't be creating a "wall" of flames because while you're busy trying to combust oxygen, he's busy lowering your core temperature. Besides, you're all BLINDED. How the hell does she know where to create the flame??
Uh huh. Translation: you CAN'T. Come on Blair, I'm posting scans all over the place. You could at least do the same every once in a while. Unless, perhaps, she's never shown greater-than-human durability? Yeah.
Crystal isn't going to be igniting that much oxygen from that far away without some serious effort (you DO remember that we're half a mile apart, yes?). Meanwhile, I've proven that Frostbite has more than enough range to leech your heat instantly.
We just keep going around in circles on this. You don't have enough TIME to do a fraction of this crap you're bringing up.
The hell are you talking about? I already said movement speeds don't matter to my strategy. And how exactly is flame going to distract my team? Fire is heat and light. Two of my team members are TAILOR MADE to take that and use it against you.
My point is, that when he flies up on your blinded, freezing asses, no amount of healing factor is gonna save you. And you can't toss something you can't see.
~Sighs~ You really aren't getting it, are you? Have you ever been blinded? Have you ever been in your house at night and had the power and lights cut off? Do you remember how disorienting that is, suddenly not being able to see? Now, imagine the same thing, but your eyes never adjust to the darkness, because no light is getting to them.
Then, before you can figure out why you can't see, your skin starts burning and tingling like your whole body was asleep. You're getting cold but your body processes it as heat and pain. Soon after comes numbness in the limbs and the inability to think clearly. Next you forget why you were there in the first place. You would run, but your nervous system is damaged. And now you're forgetting how to run, and what your name is. Your heart is slowing down, but you probably can't even feel it anymore. Finally, you shut down. You slip into a coma and your heart slows to a crawl if it's beating at all. And all of this -- from the initial blindness to the frostbite and hypothermia-- happens in, at most, a second.
You won't even hear the wendigo screaming while they're burned alive when the flesh is dissolved from your bones.
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????? its in the general direction your facing me. Even if Im blind Im gonna lash out in the last direction you where in (which wont move, considering that even if blinded my Powerhouses wont lower their fields)[/B][/QUOTE]
Dude I dont have a scan. Doesnt mean Im lying when it states it that Inhumans are just all around better than normal humans.
ya I think she can handle HALF A MILE. Thirty miles seems just a tad bit more right?
I think Ive proven her range is just a tad bit good enough for this
dude, ok the fire is the what starts it off. After that Im bringing you down with the rest of it.
Fire is heat. It gives off light. As I said too much of a good thing is a BAD thing for frostbite.
Dude, I dont need to pinpoint him. A field is a field is a field. I throw anything in that field away from me.
In a fighting scenario with your adreline pumping, and knowing someones gonna attack you, your gonna lash out. My team doesnt need to get physicial though with my much more versitile powers. Its a general direction. It did take a few seconds to take the light out, and in a few seconds everyone sees what they need to see too attack.
I wont wonder, Im fighting. When your fighting you go on instinct. All my characters are disciplined enough to just attack first figure things out later. My fire (add gravity fields, sudden loss of grounding, which leads to more energy than anyone can handle on your team. at a certain temp even steam can burn you alive, and I can get that heat) would take out frostbite. Light would get thrown around like an idoit. I mean he got taken out by Cyborg in his latest run. (then theres the fact that after that I could just hold the other too in a grav field with no oxygen, they'd die in minutes)
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this is like the LAST fight! all i'm trying to decide is can crystal fry frostbite first or does frostbite steal her heat first? given that inhumans are generally supposed to be beyond humans in most areas, i'm inclined to say she would win that race. being on fire WOULD certainly be a nusance it seems to me and stop frostbite from freezing everyone.
how does anyone else see this playing out? i just don't want to get bogged down in a repeat of the "i'm faster - no i'm faster!" scenario that happened with scoob and dman.
Theres also the fact that a firestorm, (mixing a tornado (115 mph) with the overwelming amount of fire I have) considering I have two Crystals, it would also take care of frostbite and the chick (who cant fly) and distract Light bunches and bunches
I really do have more versitility than your frostbite and can attack more than one way. Any way I pick my attack is still faster.
The huh? Last fight? No, we gots 2 more weeks yet, leo. Stormfront didn't want to fight 2 weeks in a row (family issues, I believe) so we pushed back him vs. Scoob for next week. After that, we have the finals...
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Umm. He absorbs heat. By his very nature, he can't be fried. And do you honestly think she can produce more heat than 14 rockets exploding simutaneously BEFORE the cold stars f*cking with her? Also, don't forget that his team is also blinded. He's said NOTHING to refute that. So you have to decide whether she can even use her powers properly in the split second she has. And yes, Inhumans are SUPPOSED to be faster, but he has yet to post any scans showing her supposed superior speed.
Blair: wtf? That scan doesn't mention anything about the speed with which she's using her powers. What, is that the ONLY scan you have of her?? Because you're using it a lot when it only proves that she is pollution's worst enemy. Captain Planet would just LOVE her.
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gravity taking control of your mobility?? Ya I think I have the advantage with speed
