That wasn't meant for you, I was takling to Numan or whatever the hell he calls himself now... Should have quoted his post, but its to late to edit it now.
Dooku: *Walks into the retirement home and spots the Jedi*
Ben: You may have beaten me last time, but-
Dooku: *Pushes Ben out the window before he could finish his sentence*
Qui-Gonn: Master, please!
Dooku: You always were a sucky student. *Slashes up*
Jolee: You can't beat me. I'm black.
Dooku: Good point. But the Dark Side is blacker than you could ever be! *Slashes up*
And STOP SAYING "z0mg, ben got so much stronger!!!!!!!111"
He didn't. First of all, he'd have absolutely no reason to continue training. It'd be a waste of his time. Perhaps Sidious may have trained, but definetly not Ben.
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Old Ben sucked because ANH was made in 77'
Guaranteed if Lucas made that film now he would be doing a "Dooku" all the thru the Vader fight on the DS!! Dooku dies!!!
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calm down bud its only my opinion
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He fought in Kun's war? I don't think so. He never said he did. He also had twenty years off in a damn tree hut.
How do you know he trained with Qui Gon and just didn't talk to him? This is all unfounded bullshit that you can't back up.
Considering Jolee had Twenty years off, I'm sure he's quite inexperienced compared to Dooku.
You act like Dooku sat around and did nothing. He fought his fair share as well. Hell, he was esteemed as one of the greatest Duelists of his time. Was Jolee? Didn't think so.
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so ur saying if AOTC was made in 77 dooku and Yoda showdown would be good???
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Not entirely true, Jolee does say he fought in that war... And I wouldn't consider living in the shadowlands for 20 years as doing nothing. The Shadowlands are dangerous afterall...
Actually he tells Revan about it. His wife was seduced by Kun's teachings and turned against Bindo and the jedi. And even though he hibernated in the shadowlands for quite a long time, he then helpd Revan on his quest and fought in the jedi civil war. And we know that Jinn trained Kenobi the art of becoming a force ghost, so why wouldn't he have trained him in the force.
As you can see, I have backed up everything I have said.
I would say that Bindo likely takes this on his own. He lived in a martial period and fought in two wars. He became a jedi master and helped Revan on his quest. His adventures were considered by the disciple (a historian) as a valuable piece of history comparable to Bass' teachings, so it is likely that he achieved much. I will admit that I am a bit of a Bindo fanboy, but it is not like what I have said is unfounded. Jinn and Ben Kenobi as a team were probably almost as good as the ROTS Anakin and Kenobi team, so it is not like Dooku would be able to annihilate them in 2 seconds like people have been saying. Adding Bindo and it's say goodbye to Dooku.
No actually you haven't, because you just made an assumption that QGJ trained Kenobi there is no evidence for that, especially when you consider that Obi Wan was already more powerful then QGJ and force ghosts can't stay around forever, QGJ probably didn't have forever to train Obi Wan.
Jolee also fought in the war, but he was still a Padawan he was nothing special in that war for as far as we know... He isn't important and the fighting he did in that war sure as hell doesn't put him above Dooku.
Before the Jedi Civil War nobody even knew about Jolee he was a hermit, he went into hiding. He wasn't a great Jedi Knight the Jedi Order didn't look for him. How the disciple knew about him is beyond me, but he probably learned something about Jolee travelling with Revan and decided he was important. But being a Jedi that has seen and travelled a lot and being a great Jedi are two completely different things.
QGJ and Obi Wan wouldn't work well together anymore. Its been 10 years since Obi Wan last fought with QGJ and he started learning a different style.
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It is not unfounded as I have a reason for saying what I have said. Just because I do not have complete 100% proof, it doesn't mean that it is unfounded. It is definite that Jinn trained Obi Won Kenobi in the art of force spirits, so it is extremely plausible that he trained him in other ways too. Do you really think that Kenobi just sat down doing nothing in those twenty years?
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As I can see, what you just said opens up into a web of assumptions.
He helped Revan? How do you know he was with him constantly or even partially during their adventure? Does it say that Jolee canonically even participated in the wars? For all you know, he only killed ten people. Hell, maybe not even.
Actually, near the end of RotS, It basically shows that Yoda is about to teach Kenobi how to communicate with Qui Gon so it could have been Yoda, not Jinn. Don't make such foolish assumptions.
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In response to your first post, there is no evidence that nobody knew who Bindo was. Just because they didn't mention him, it doesn't mean that they didn't know who he was and because of the fact that the disciple knew about him (an antiquarian) it is likely that he was well known throughout the order. As I have already said, it seems that the disciple regarded his achievements on the same level of Bass's teachings, and if he was actually talking about his adventures with Revan, don't you think he would have said Revan's adventures?
Mar 9th, 2006 10:46 PM
its only my opinion
