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And Sorgo, Yoda makes it clear that he would train Kenobi on how to communicate with Jinn, and that Jinn had training for him. It is very likely that Jinn trained him in more ways then how to become a spirit.

No offense, but likely doesn't cut it.

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It is obvious that Revan would have taken his jedi companions with him on the Star Forge, and as he was also his most powerful companion bar Bastilla, it is likely that he accompanied him on many of his missions. And it is obvious that Revan's crew helped him on his quest. This is implied throughout the game. And you have completely misinterpreted the end of ROTS if that is what you believe.

Misinterpret? Maybe you need to go see the Movie again, kid.

RotS Script:

YODA: (continuing) Master Kenobi, wait a moment. In your solitude on Tatooine, training I have for you.

OBI-WAN: Training??

YODA: An old friend has learned the path to immortality.

OBI-WAN: Who?

YODA: One who has returned from the netherworld of the Force to train me . . . your old Master, Qui-Gon Jinn.

OBI-WAN: Qui-Gon? But, how could he accomplish this?

YODA: The secret of the Ancient Order of the Whills, he studied. How to commune with him. I will teach you.

^ That would be Yoda training Kenobi how to communicate with Jinn, like I said earlier.

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As I can see, what you just said opens up into a web of assumptions.

He helped Revan? How do you know he was with him constantly or even partially during their adventure? Does it say that Jolee canonically even participated in the wars? For all you know, he only killed ten people. Hell, maybe not even.

Actually, near the end of RotS, It basically shows that Yoda is about to teach Kenobi how to communicate with Qui Gon so it could have been Yoda, not Jinn. Don't make such foolish assumptions.

This is what you said. By saying "so it could have been Yoda, not Jinn." you were implying that Yoda might have taught him it.

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That would be Yoda training Kenobi how to communicate with Jinn, like I said earlier.

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No you were implying that Jinn might have not taught him at all and that yoda would teach him.

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No you were implying that Jinn might have not taught him at all and that yoda would teach him.

Damn rights. What evidence do you have that Qui Gon continued training with Kenobi?

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Damn rights. What evidence do you have that Qui Gon continued training with Kenobi?

Well Yoda didn't specifically state what training that Jinn had for Kenobi, but what we do know is that Yoda taught him how to communicate with Jinn, and that Jinn taught him how to become a force spirit. I was just saying that it was likely that Yoda and Jinn might have trained him in something else, but that is just speculation and not what I was relying on for my argument.

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Well Yoda didn't specifically state what training that Jinn had for Kenobi, but what we do know is that Yoda taught him how to communicate with Jinn, and that Jinn taught him how to become a force spirit. I was just saying that it was likely that Yoda and Jinn might have trained him in something else, but that is just speculation and not what I was relying on for my argument.

Ah. I see.

Jinn taught Kenobi immorality.

What makes you think STILL that Yoda did not teach this? Yoda taught Kenobi how to speak to them. Why not teach him how to become one?

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