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Tournament Bonus Round Exhibition Match: TheKhan vs. grey fox
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grey fox
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Originally posted by TheKhan
Sorry, its not going to work. no


First of all Husk's can change her entire body into a different material in a matter of seconds. Not part and not in a couple of minutes. Here is a scan of her husking into metal:
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She could jump in the air, change skin, and land with a new body.


Damn , i always thought her powers really couldn't be conveyed without breaking at least a few of the censorship rules.....

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And the problem you still haven't addressed is that your team will have to throw their bayonets and grenades from a mile away. Which even given the superstrength of some of your team members, that may not even be possible.


Deathstroke can , as can Anderson , the guy has superb accuracy. but let's not take my word for it.....


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...Lets let the pages do the talking. The man was tacking bible pages to the walls with his bare hands all of them (if you notice) are in the same position , i'm not trying to say he's bullseye but he's damn near close to it.....

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And even if your team could throw their weapon from a mile away (and still be accurate), they wouldn't even get close to the rock wall as I have Sunspot hovering above it ready to deflect/destroy any incoming projectiles. You see Sunspot absorbs light and heat for energy so standing near so much lava will provide him with a constant fuel source. So he can just release wave after wave of concussive energy to ensure nothing gets close to the wall.


How in the hell can he block this.....

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...Now times each of those individual linEs by a few hundred and thats what will be raining down on your team , every angle , every nook and cranny will be filled with a perfectly weighted , blessed and Aerodynamic weapon. Sun spot will be to busy trying to stop the rain of sharp pointy bayonets from skewering his team to think about a small , little grenade being flung.


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Can they get past solid rock several feet thick?


Yes , you may want to refer back to this ...

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Originally posted by grey fox
Anderson can pierce diamond. How ?

His bayonets go through human flesh easily this is not a new thing however , most humans can stab people . Unfortunately for the khan Anderson has super strength



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Can shrapnel from the wall hurt my team?


Possibly



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Oh, and for the idea of Spidey taking on Sunspot, as I said Sunspot and raise the temperature around his body enough to melt super sonic bullets before they reach his skin. Neither Spidey or his tentacles can touch him no

Ever heard of indestructible shield , also heard of a little flign called flinging , Finlay have you knowledge..perhaps upon a little subject called decapitation

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So you're too far way to use any of your weapons


Nope

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even if you could use them my team is protected by the wall


Which i have already established can be broken through


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and Sunspot, and your team will still be burned alive in less and 60 seconds into the fight.


Not unless you wish to crispy fry your blind partners

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Looks like I need another plan shifty


Yes , yes you do.

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hey fox i got a quetion on that bonus rounds thread


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Originally posted by grey fox
Damn , i always thought her powers really couldn't be conveyed without breaking at least a few of the censorship rules.....

She has a costume of "unstable molecules" that tend to keep her covered. wink

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Deathstroke can , as can Anderson , the guy has superb accuracy. but let's not take my word for it.....
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How in the hell can he block this.....

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...Now times each of those individual linEs by a few hundred and thats what will be raining down on your team , every angle , every nook and cranny will be filled with a perfectly weighted , blessed and Aerodynamic weapon. Sun spot will be to busy trying to stop the rain of sharp pointy bayonets from skewering his team to think about a small , little grenade being flung.


I never said that the attack wasn't impressive, I expressed doubt (which you still haven't show any evidence to disprove) that Anderson or Slade could cover a whole mile with their attack. Showing Anderson use that attack in relatively short distances isn't the same thing.

The ability to throw grenades and bayonets that distance would depend on more than just physical strength (just look at baseball pitchers). It would also depend on the aerodynamic characteristics of the projectiles. Neither grenades nor bayonets were ever designed to travel that far in the air.

As soon as they leave the hands of you team they would be under the influence of several other forces such as drag, the laminar flow of air over their surface area (which given the design of both would make them very unstable in flight), and the concussive force from Sunspot that they would be subjected to long before they reach the wall.

Being stable in flight over and traveling a short distance is nowhere near the same thing as being stable in flight over and traveling in the air for over a mile. no

If it was a bullet it would be different. They are (unlike grenades or bayonets) aerodynamically designed to fly that distances and you can find countless examples of them doing so. However, you have yet to show either Slade or Anderson attacking with grenades or bayonets at a mile. For all we know it just isn't possible for them to be thrown them that far, the drag and other forces may simply be too great.

If you have a scan of them actually doing what you are claiming they can, I would like to see it big grin

And besides all Sunspot has to do is release a large blast of concussive energy directed at you team and the general area around them. As all of your projectiles will originate from that one spot, he could affect them all with ease yes Oh, and Magma can simply create a series of walls between our two team anyway. She isn't limited to just one evil face

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Ever heard of indestructible shield , also heard of a little flign called flinging , Finlay have you knowledge..perhaps upon a little subject called decapitation


Cap's shield is relatively light weight. If it is thrown at Sunspot he could easily deflect it with a small concussive blast.

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Originally posted by grey fox

Yes , yes you do.

laughing


Don't misquote me you sneaky little Brit. mad wink


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hey im british dont diss, u selfish liile ameican, mad stick out tongue


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Originally posted by AJ4LIFE
hey im british dont diss, u selfish liile ameican, mad stick out tongue




wink


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u stloe the land of them, and u got two may nukes and u are rubbish at football and the next time that happens this is going to happen and wink ok, LOL only joking u got a much better country than us i wish i was american


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Originally posted by AJ4LIFE
u stloe the land of them, and u got two may nukes and u are rubbish at football and the next time that happens this is going to happen and wink ok, LOL only joking u got a much better country than us i wish i was american


How patriotic!


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thank u thank u, but seriously i hate this country, i told u that before remember sam


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thank u thank u, but seriously i hate this country, i told u that before remember sam


Yeah I do.


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Not to be annoying or anything, but it would be appreciated if other people don't comment on stuff in these matches all the time...especially if it has nothing to do with the match. erm


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ok sorry dont worry u werent annoying u were right


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Originally posted by TheKahn
She has a costume of "unstable molecules" that tend to keep her covered. wink



I never said that the attack wasn't impressive, I expressed doubt (which you still haven't show any evidence to disprove) that Anderson or Slade could cover a whole mile with their attack. Showing Anderson use that attack in relatively short distances isn't the same thing.

The ability to throw grenades and bayonets that distance would depend on more than just physical strength (just look at baseball pitchers). It would also depend on the aerodynamic characteristics of the projectiles. Neither grenades nor bayonets were ever designed to travel that far in the air.

As soon as they leave the hands of you team they would be under the influence of several other forces such as drag, the laminar flow of air over their surface area (which given the design of both would make them very unstable in flight), and the concussive force from Sunspot that they would be subjected to long before they reach the wall.

Being stable in flight over and traveling a short distance is nowhere near the same thing as being stable in flight over and traveling in the air for over a mile. no

If it was a bullet it would be different. They are (unlike grenades or bayonets) aerodynamically designed to fly that distances and you can find countless examples of them doing so. However, you have yet to show either Slade or Anderson attacking with grenades or bayonets at a mile. For all we know it just isn't possible for them to be thrown them that far, the drag and other forces may simply be too great.

If you have a scan of them actually doing what you are claiming they can, I would like to see it big grin

And besides all Sunspot has to do is release a large blast of concussive energy directed at you team and the general area around them. As all of your projectiles will originate from that one spot, he could affect them all with ease yes Oh, and Magma can simply create a series of walls between our two team anyway. She isn't limited to just one evil face



Cap's shield is relatively light weight. If it is thrown at Sunspot he could easily deflect it with a small concussive blast.



Don't misquote me you sneaky little Brit. mad wink


You want distance feats ...you got e'm.

So far away that Seras's vampiric vision (recorded as letting her see at 5600 metres check out the respect thread) couldn't see him .

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10-40 metres

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....I'll find more later , it take me a while to sift through each volume.....


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You want distance feats ...you got e'm.

So far away that Seras's vampiric vision (recorded as letting her see at 5600 metres check out the respect thread) couldn't see him .

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How is a character, who isn't even on my team, not being able to see one character, who is on you team, revalent?
Hasn't Anderson been altered to fight vampires? It would make sense for one of his upgrades to be an ability to avoid being detected by "vampiric vision"

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10-40 metres

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....I'll find more later , it take me a while to sift through each volume.....


What I wanted was some evidence that you characters could pull off what is your main method of attack (ie throw unstable bayonets and grenades a full mile). This scan doesn't come even close. At best it proves Anderson can throw his bayonets 131.23 feet (or 40 m). This is only about 2.49% of the distance it would have to travle.


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nice battle you two.....


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nice battle you two.....


aye


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Originally posted by TheKahn
How is a character, who isn't even on my team, not being able to see one character, who is on you team, revalent?
Hasn't Anderson been altered to fight vampires? It would make sense for one of his upgrades to be an ability to avoid being detected by "vampiric vision"


No , what I'm, saying is that the hallway was so far that she couldn't see him (and that sera's vision range has been clocked at 5600 metres) and no Anderson hasn't been altered to be invisible to vampires. Only to regenerate......


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No , what I'm, saying is that the hallway was so far that she couldn't see him (and that sera's vision range has been clocked at 5600 metres) and no Anderson hasn't been altered to be invisible to vampires. Only to regenerate......


Wait, the one where he impaled Alucard through the back of the head was a shot from 3 miles? Shit.


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Wait, the one where he impaled Alucard through the back of the head was a shot from 3 miles? Shit.


yup, i think Hirano made it look close on purpose , because like most mangaka he likes to show off his ability on faces. But looking over all of my info it indicates that the shot MUST have been three miles , as sera's had shown her increased vision a few chapters beforehand .


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i'm liking grey foxes argument a bit more here..


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I got to say the opposite for myself here. But that could change. Good job to the both of you


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