Ok, fair enough. If you and Dizzle say he did it in a comic I'll believe it (I know its sometimes difficult to get hard numbers out of comics).
That still changes nothing. First of all Magma would simply raise multiple walls infront of my team to protect them and Sunspot would relase a large blast of continious concussive energy aimed at your team. Since all of the bayonets would come from that point he could knock all of them off course (and possibly back at your team
And even if a few got threw, they would still have to travel through several rock walls to even reach my team. One of my members is in the air and out of range, another is encased in solid rock herself, another is made of diamond, and the only one who might be hurt is behind Magma and Husk. That one type of attack isn't enough to k.o. my team
And its really the only option your team has as they can't aviod the lava that will soon burn them alive.
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The bayonets aren't for attack my friend , their for distraction and let me tell you if thats a distraction , well whats the real fight going to be like . All of this is to allow your team to become blind.
Sight is a key element in a battle , and I'm afraid as soon as the flashbang goes off your team is ****ed.
First off, Anderson may be able to get his bayonets the full distance (assuming, of course, they are not stopped by numerous rock walls and Sunspots concussive blasts) you still haven't shown Slade could get his flash grenades that far.
And even if he could, there, again, is the issue of multiple rock walls in the way as well as Sunspot. I am afraid that the grenades would be even less effective as Sunspot can absorb light as well as heat . So all you will have done is make one of my team members stronger.
As he is above my team he is in perfect position to shield my team from any of the light that might get through the multiple rock walls (assuming Slade can even get them that far).
And keep in mind that all this time a wave of lava traveling greater than 60 mph is traveling towards you team (which gives them less than one minute to live). And as Magma is, herself, encased in solid rock (and behind rock walls) there really isn't anything you could do to her to stop the lava flow.
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Well, from what I've read about him in the bios, he seems to absorb solar energy automatically as that was his natural mutation. But after being experimented on and mind-merging with Cable, he gained the ability to absorb other forms of heat and light.
So if he didn't want to aborb additional light or heat energy, then I think he wouldn't.
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Nah , that doesn't cop me I'm afraid. It doesn't list it in his powers and gives a vague reference over it . It's probably like spider mans 'ability' to communicate with insects which was conveniently written out/forgotten.
I think they put his new powers under the "Notes" to explain what his new powers are and where they came from. As opposing to changing his long-time powerset without such an explanation, as that might cause some confusion.
But it does say:
"Instead of metabolizing the solar power, he now rechannels it as different forms of heat and infrared radiation. He is also capable now of absorbing other forms of heat and light besides solar power."
If that isn't a new power, I don't know what is. He can now absorb light and you could find that in X-Force Annual #3 through X-Force #43.
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Haven't had time to read everything. I almost feel like voting for GF just because he has the market on badass-ery covered between Iron Spidey and Ultimate Cap.
But I'll remain unbiased and hold my vote...I'll try to read everything soon, but I apologize in advance if I can't get to it.
Well i have the perfect counter , explosive bayonets , sunspot is too busy trying to drain the heat and blast power from those suckers (since he has to focus to absorb anything but his original energy source)
The flashbang should be able to go off harmlessly.
Once again it's quantity over quality (so to speak) he can ether try to stop a small grenade from emitting the flashbang , or stop the rain of pointy death which seconds later begins exploding . He'll be way to busy trying to absorb the heat to even notice.
Hmm... For right now, Fox has provided more evidence and, IMO, has a little edge in the "debate" factor... However, The Khan's overall strategy is a bit more solid for me. I'll stay undecided for now, excellent fight guys.
(yes, I do reserve the right to vote in bonus rounds)
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I apologize about the lack of scans on my part. I really didn't follow the New Mutants when most of these characters were featured and there isn't a whole lot besides bios on the Internet about them.
But I did manage to find an example of the type of walls that grey fox's exploding bayonets and flash-bang grenades will have to get threw. Now keep in mind that Magma was only making this one to transport herself but it is easily three to four feet thick and made of solid rock. Of course the ones she'll make in the fight will be much wider:
Now there are three things to keep in mind about the bayonets and grenades:
First of all I doubt may will even get to may walls as Sunspot is shooting a large blast of concussive energy at grey fox's team. As all of the projectiles will come from the sames area, Sunspot will be able to deflect most if not all of them (or at the very least slow them down considerably).
Secondly, Sunspot is already absorbing both heat and light from the lava around him. So any additional heat and/or light you produce will be absorbed by him with that coming off of the lava.
Third, the only hope you have of them actually being effective is if they can somehow take out Magma. Not only is she behind solid rock and encased in rock but she has Sunspot to absorb any possible disorientating light and her rock walls/suit will protect her from any shrapnel or debris.
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